Tell me about my SA M1903


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Gryffydd
March 18, 2010, 01:35 AM
So I have an M1903 Springfield that I don't know much about. I'm trying to decide what to do with it. I'm leaning towards selling, but I don't know enough to even know what it's worth.
So, here's some pics:
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4662.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4667.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4668.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4669.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4672.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4673.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4674.jpg

The wood is rough with a few repairs, but the bore is nice and shiny and the metal all looks pretty good. The action is nice and smooth.
I forgot to include a picture of the barrel stamp, but it's an SA with the flaming bomb and 12-41 for the date.

If you need any further pictures or information, let me know.

So, what can you tell me about it? Thanks guys!

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az_imuth
March 18, 2010, 09:04 AM
I'd think that the serial number puts it in the range of the double heat treated receivers, meaning it should be safe to fire as long as it headspaces okay. The barrel is a WW2 replacement and the stock is from a later model 1903-A3. From the repairs to the wrist, I'd guess it was a Greek return purchased through CMP at some point in the past. Unless it has some rare feature/parts that I'm unaware of then I'd say it was worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $600-700.

This is just a wild guess, of course :D

ETA: I believe the production year was 1924

Robert
March 18, 2010, 09:27 AM
The serial number comes back as having been made mid to late 1921. The Ordinance stamp of 12-41 means that the rifle was sent back for refitting and replacement of worn parts right after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Have a new barrel fitted and the like. As far as the stock being an A3 style that I can not say. I have a Remington built 1903, that was built in 1941 and my rifle has the same style stock on it, and I am 99% sure that the stock is original. And no my rifle is not an A3.
A good source of general 1903 info can be found here:
http://www.surplusrifle.com/1903/index.asp
$600- $700 may be a tad low. Though what a shop would sell you one for and what you can get for it are two different things. I am seeing decent 1903s up around $1000. But the is retail. If you do not need the money, why not keep it? Great rifles, good piece of history and fun to shoot.

Edit:
After a little searching I do not believe the stock to be an A3 stock... but then again I am no 1903 expert and I could be wrong.

Vern Humphrey
March 18, 2010, 09:39 AM
As far as the stock being an A3 style that I can not say. I have a Remington built 1903, that was built in 1941 and my rifle has the same style stock on it, and I am 99% sure that the stock is original. And no my rifle is not an A3.
There are basically three kinds of Springfield stocks.

This rifle has the first type, the Type S, or straight stock. The Type C, or pistol grip style, was adopted in the 1920s. A Springfield with a Type C stock is considered an M1903A1, even if originally manufactured or marked as an M1903.

The third type is the "scant" stock. These are primarily found on M1903A3s, and resulted when stock blanks cut for the type S stock were finished on a profile lathe using a Type C master. Scant stocks have a "tit" or small swelling where the pistol grip of the Type C would be, but there wasn't enough wood in the Type S blanks to complete the pistol grip.

az_imuth
March 18, 2010, 09:40 AM
I could certainly be mistaken, but it's my understanding that the gap seen on the stock between the rear sight and the receiver is for the handguard ring on an 03-A3. I believe it's pretty common to find reworked 03's in 03-A3 stocks.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/bradgriff/IMG_4668.jpg

Robert
March 18, 2010, 10:20 AM
Vern, thanks for the info. I am still learning about my 1903. AZ you may very well be right, like i said I am still learning. And I tend to get things wrong from time to time.

1KPerDay
March 18, 2010, 11:30 AM
Whatever it is, it's gorgeous and very cool. You should be proud.



BTW: in case you want to take the bolt apart and give it a good cleaning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTeOxN_XX4A

Jim Watson
March 18, 2010, 01:20 PM
And, since it is either a double heat treat or nickel steel action, it is safe to shoot; assuming the headspace is correct and no hidden wear or defect.

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