I've been getting kicked around by life lately. Can you guys post some pics of your old fashioned sixguns to give me a pick me up?
Right now I'm fantasizing about three in particular that are on my wish list for after I get a replacement car, and pay the rent, and... etc.
They are an 1860 Colt, a 1851 Navy with the square triggerguard, and a Uberti Open top with a 5.5" barrel, square Navy trigger guard installed, and false ivory grips (I have to use my imagination on this one because it will probably take a while to assemble such a gun).
Still, any pics of charcoal burners (percussion or cartridge) either stock or customized should help.
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I have never really noticed before that the replica 1851's arn't quite the same as the Colts.
The trigergard is larger on the copy.
The ram rod screw is in the wrong side on the Uberti copy.
The Ubertis are closer to original Colt's than the Piettas. 1st, 2nd and early 3rd model Navies had the screw entering from the right while all subsequent 3rd and 4th models had it entering from the left. There were 3 different sizes/shapes of trigger guards as well as three different size grips.
The C series 2nd Gens were probably the closest to original 1851s (second model and early 3rd model) with the ASM and Euroarms copies of the same vintage following close behind. The F series 2nd Gens and later model Ubertis are closer in dimension to the late 3rd and early 4th model Navies.
March 19, 2010, 01:44 PM
March 19, 2010, 02:27 PM
original and Pietta (missing wedge screw).
The head of the original's wedge screw is larger than those of the repros and actually acts as a depth set for the wedge (as Colt intended it to do).
original on left (not even close to being interchangeable)
All 3 original .36s (Colt, Whitney, Savage&North) could use a ball larger than .380
March 19, 2010, 03:01 PM
I was looking at the picture of arcticap's 51 again and it that ramrod is really at an angle like that it must be assembled upside down. (rotated 1/2 turn) Didn't think it would go together that way but it might. <grin>
March 19, 2010, 03:05 PM
Uberti Colt Army and Navy:
Uberti Colt Dragoon 2nd Model
March 20, 2010, 07:02 AM
Try before you buy the 51 Navy with Dragoon trigger guard. If you have large fingers it may be a tight fit. I love the looks but it is uncomfortable to shoot with my fat fingers.
Here's a few of mine, I tend to prefer the open tops, but I like them all.
The 51 navy was this mans favorite.
"Duck Bill" Hickcock.
March 20, 2010, 04:25 PM
madcratebuilder - when you say the square triggerguard makes a tight fit, where do you mean? The square guard looks to have the same space inside the guard as a round one but I am just about positive the only way I'd see one in person would be to buy it. If you mean it takes up space behind the guard though, I already have become accustomed to the two finger grip on my Remington with my pinky wrapping around the bottom. If I don't shoot it that way a 30 grain charge of FFFg propels the triggerguard into my knuckle on a regular basis.
I do have big hands but my fingers aren't really "fat". I kind of have longer, skinnier fingers. But that may change in my old age... given that my dad has freakin' bear paws!
And pohill - nice Savage & North. I've read about them before but never "seen" one that someone actually owns until now.
March 20, 2010, 04:30 PM
I like those Starrs. You don't see them very often. Looks like you got the single and double action.
March 20, 2010, 04:53 PM
MCB are you sure you need "two" of those Starr revolvers? I know someone who would love one:D
Opps, forgot some porn.
March 21, 2010, 09:55 AM
madcratebuilder - when you say the square triggerguard makes a tight fit, where do you mean? The square guard looks to have the same space inside the guard as a round one but I am just about positive the only way I'd see one in person would be to buy it.
The space inside the trigger guard. This is going to vary with different manufacturers, but the Dragoon style guard is about an eight inch less space than the round guard on the 51 navy. This causes my finger to drag on the guard. It seems to me that the 2nd gen Colts have smaller opening than the Italians. I'm going to speculate that the 3rd gens well be about the same as the Italians, I believe Uberti supplied the guards for 3rd gens.
MCB are you sure you need "two" of those Starr revolvers? I know someone who would love one
I have become very attached to both these Starr's. The DA has been trouble free and the SA, once I learned to not use the half cock notch has been trouble free. They do not have a cylinder pin, the front of the cylinder has a cone shaped stud that fits in a matched recess, and the rear fits in a round recessed area of the recoil shield. Keep these two areas packed with lube and they shoot pretty darn nice.