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vector248
March 18, 2010, 10:27 PM
I am on a Spanish kick right now with my collecting, having just bought a old Destroyer carbine. I found this and wanted to know if it is a descent deal. Is 32 Long CTG the same as 32 Smith and Wesson long? Also if it is a 32 S&W long is it safe to shoot 32 S&W short is this revolver? I was thinking it might be like the 38/357. I know this is a pretty weak cartridge, i am looking to buy this pistol to go with my collection, not as a self defence peice. The discription says it is a copy of the Smith model 10, is this correct? Also i assume this would have a mild recoil. Thanks in advance.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=160436643

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Radagast
March 19, 2010, 01:45 AM
.32 Long is usually considered to be .32 S&W long, but many spanish guns were actually chambered in .32-20 so check it before shooting.
.32 S&W was stretched to make .32 S&W Long, which was stretched to make .32 H&R Magnum which was stretched to make .327 Federal. The shorter cases can be chambered and fired in guns chambered for the longer cases.

Jim Keenan can probably tell you the manufacturer, if he doesn't reply to this thread try PMing him.

Personally I would spend the money on a real S&W, but I'm not on a Spanish kick. :P

Ron James
March 19, 2010, 02:10 AM
Made by the Beistegui Brothers, Company name, Beistegui Hermanos, Eibar Spain { Hermanos is Spanish for Brothers}. They used a BH in a circle for their monogram. They got their start with the contract Rubies in WWI but they did not survive the Spanish civil war in 1936. However because the Brothers were also sales agents for other smaller makers it is unknown who really made the revolver. As stated 32 Long is 32 S&W Long. If it was chambered for the 32-20 it would be marked 30 Winchester.. Please do not shoot any thing but 32 Short in these old Eibar :)guns of unknown parentage. IMHO I would clean it and hang it on the wall.:)

W.E.G.
March 19, 2010, 04:19 PM
For the risk you take in the purchase, I think the Spanish "copies" on Gunbroker are significantly overpriced.

You have no assurance that the gun you get won't be somebody else's headache.

There are wide-ranging opinions and evidence on those guns.
Buying one for a hefty price "off the internet," and without recourse, strikes me as quite foolish.

At the prices I've seen on the Spanish guns, you could spend a bit more and get a REAL Smith and Wesson. At least a real S&W has some collector value, even if it is broken. A broken Spanish "copy" is about as valuable as a broken old hammer.

rcmodel
March 19, 2010, 04:30 PM
I found this and wanted to know if it is a descent deal.
Note that the auction started at $195 and didn't get one single bid.

It is over-priced at half that.

If I wanted something Spanish to go with a Distroyer carbine I would look for an Astra or Llama pistol.
Those are the real deal and might possibly work.

rc

vector248
March 25, 2010, 10:59 PM
thanks for the responses. I think i will look for a good Asrta or a star in 9mm largo to go with my destroyer, that seems like a much safer bet.

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