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Lone_Sheep_Dog
March 18, 2010, 10:00 PM
I wanted one of these minis for a ccw. I tried one out and I could not shoot it anywhere near accurately. I must have shot around 400 rounds with little improvement. Do you know anyone who can actually shoot this gun accurately?

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hogshead
March 18, 2010, 10:04 PM
How far were you tryin to shoot? The one I have has a half inch of barrel I woudnt expect it to be very accurate. I would deem it a belly gun.

surjimmy
March 19, 2010, 01:57 AM
Mine is very accurate at 10 feet.

whitecoyote
March 19, 2010, 02:13 AM
Check out the Pug. You will not be disappointed.
http://i42.tinypic.com/14din3o.jpg

MCgunner
March 19, 2010, 10:15 AM
I wanted one of these minis for a ccw. I tried one out and I could not shoot it anywhere near accurately. I must have shot around 400 rounds with little improvement. Do you know anyone who can actually shoot this gun accurately?

Yeah....ME. I've taken small game with mine, one notable rabbit at about 50 feet. It's no Bullseye gun, but it's accurate enough to hit a B27 amidships several out of 5 from even 25 yards. Out to 15 yards, not a problem and inside 7.5 yards, center head is no problem. I've even head shot a rattler coiled up under my game feeder with the thing when I had nothing else, but a 9mm on me and the nine seemed excessive. I always have this thing on me. Took a nutria a while back at about 15 yards when I was bow fishing. Took too shots for that one, missed at about 10 yards with him swimming away. It has taken numerous marauding possums around the place. So, while it's no Ruger Mk 2, it has its uses by virtue of always being there.

With mine, I put a folding holster grip on it. Part of the problem with these little guns is the inability with anyone with decent size paws to get a grip on 'em. The holster grip gives one that full grip while still folding up for easy concealment. I had to find the ammo it liked, is a little picky. It's funny, but some ammo shoots way off POI of other ammo. I settled on Federal Lightening and filed the front sight down to get it regulated for that load.

I just bought a super companion, the muzzle loading version of the gun. With 2 grains of Bullseye, it shoots a bit harder than the .22 magnum and with a spare cylinder, it's much quicker to reload via a cylinder swap. Spare cylinders are only 40 bucks and I have one on the way for mine, ordered it yesterday. I might get another one in the future, but really, I don't carry the gun routinely, prefer major calibers for self defense. There are times, though, that I need ultra concealment.

I still carry the .22LR as an always back up to whatever primary and/or primary and back up I'm carrying that day. It's rarely my only choice, but I have found that when I'm wade fishing, I can clip it to the top of my T shirt to keep it out of the water (holster grip has a clip on it) and it's not readily recognizable as a gun, yet out of the water. That's one use I have for it as a primary. I'll probably start carrying the super companion for that since it has more punch. It's almost as accurate and pushes a 30 grain conical to 1200+ FPS. The .22 pushes the 38 grain HP to 800 fps. I figure the super companion has more chance of adequate penetration, though I haven't done the penetration tests to prove it, yet.

I wouldn't recommend the NAA as an always primary carry, but as a back up or third gun and occasional when nothing else is possible, it fits a niche for me. Some will put the little gun down. Perhaps they never have occasion to need one. That's fine, but I like having the option available and I like having the .22LR there in my weak side pocket all the time.

Here's the super companion with the .22LR under it folded into its grip.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2i1frz5.jpg

sheephearder
March 19, 2010, 10:57 AM
These guns are accurate enough, but they are really difficult to shot accurately. the 22lr with next to nothing as a grip is really tough. If you put something more on for a grip and can deal with the minimal sights they are OK, the Black Widow with good sights is the best and only a little larger.

girl shooter
March 19, 2010, 01:02 PM
I carry one it a belt buckle, great back-up gun to the 38 SPL in my purse. It is absolutely tiny and when I carry it, people just assume is it a stylized belt buckle.

Who expects a 130lbs woman to wear a gun so blantantly? :D

earlthegoat2
March 19, 2010, 01:15 PM
I casn shoot minute of human at about 20 feet after about 100 rounds of practice. I sometimes carry it as a BUG but never a primary. It is my bathroom gun right now.

testosterone
March 19, 2010, 06:29 PM
Yeah....ME. I've taken small game with mine, one notable rabbit at about 50 feet. It's no Bullseye gun, but it's accurate enough to hit a B27 amidships several out of 5 from even 25 yards. Out to 15 yards, not a problem and inside 7.5 yards, center head is no problem.

You sir, are a hereby declared a NAA genius.

I can't hit squat with my 1 5/8" 22 mag.

I love it, but I can't hit a damn thing with it beyond couple feet.

MCgunner
March 19, 2010, 07:56 PM
I don't think I'm special at making the little guns work. I've read others with similar experience. The secret is a bigger grip and getting a load regulated to the sights. The things are real picky about load.

My super companion shoots way low and left, so I have to use a really weird sight picture to shoot it, but I can make it work, too. I haven't fiiled on the front sight or anything. I just know how to hold it. A little bit of practice and I'm shooting paper plate size groups at 40 feet. I'm not quite as accurate with it as my .22, but it'll get the job done at defense ranges. Too, I haven't had it that long and lack the practice with it.

I must say, these guns are so diminutive, they don't point very natural. I can't poiint shoot it for squat and I need good light to see the tiny sights. That does limit it quite a bit in low light. NAA offers a tiny little laser on their site, but it blocks the use of the iron sights, so I don't see that as an option. Besides, that would make the gun a little bigger, which is ruining the whole reason for it existing.

Walkalong
March 19, 2010, 08:56 PM
I can't hit squat with my 1 5/8" 22 mag.

I love it, but I can't hit a damn thing with it beyond couple feet.
Mine (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=114632&stc=1&d=1265035586) actually shoots to point of aim, and, with concentration, paper plates at 10 to 15 yards are fairly easy to hit most of the time. It's a 10 feet and in gun in my mind anyway. A Torso sized target at 10 or 15 feet is pretty easy to get a well centered hit on.

MCgunner
March 20, 2010, 08:41 AM
^^See?^^ :D

BCRider
March 21, 2010, 02:25 AM
My recently acquired The Earl shoots nice groups if I can hold it well enough. At 5 yards I've managed a few 3 inch groups that were centered on the point where I actually aimed. :D

Getting the hold on the minimal handle is the big trick. But if you can manage that then the gun can do it's bit well.

duns
March 21, 2010, 06:02 AM
I love the look of the NAA mini revolvers and have been tempted to get one, probably the Pug, but I haven't persuaded myself that it is of much use for SD. I might still get one some day just for fun. At the moment, I use a J-frame when I need to carry a smaller gun.

MCgunner
March 21, 2010, 07:18 AM
Like I say, it's rare that I need to carry one of the NAAs as a primary, but when I do need it, it's FAR smaller and easier to conceal than any J frame.

mgkdrgn
March 21, 2010, 08:47 AM
I suggest you try another. I have no problem hitting what I am at with my NAA Black Widow in 22mag out to about 25 - 30 feet.

benEzra
March 21, 2010, 10:16 AM
I used to own a NAA mini in .22LR with the 1 1/8" barrel:

http://www.naaminis.com/pix/lr.jpg

It was remarkably well made, mechanically interesting, a fun range toy, and accurate enough for A-zone hits at 7 yards if you use the sights. For defensive use, though, I didn't have any confidence in the ballistics. .22LR out of a rifle isn't exactly considered a stellar defensive round to start with, and out of the 1 1/8" barrel it is feeble indeed, losing 50% of the velocity and 75% of the energy of the same load in a rifle-length barrel.

http://www.naaminis.com/lrvelnew.html

The .22 magnums don't do much better out of the 1 1/8" barrel, as the extra powder doesn't have a fast enough burn rate to really matter:

http://www.naaminis.com/msvel.html

A tiny bullet at super-low velocity, in the slowest of all repeating handguns to shoot, with a capacity of only 5 rounds, suggests that this should be a last-ditch weapon indeed, not a primary CCW. Even the lowly .25 ACP (or .22LR in a small semiauto) offers better ballistics, much faster followup shots, and greater capacity, and .32 ACP stomps all over it.

The other thing, if you do choose to carry one, is use a holster. I experimented with mine around the house, and found that (1) the hammer spur will punch right through a pocket lining, (2) it will rotate in your pocket until it is upside down and backwards, making the draw problematic, and (3) it can fall out of your pocket when you sit down under the right conditions. Also, be absolutely postively sure that the firing pin protrusion of the hammer is in the safety notch between cylinders, because little gun can fire when dropped on the hammer if you negligently leave the firing pin resting on a cartridge rim.

FAS1
March 21, 2010, 10:46 AM
I have one exactly like the one benEzra used to have. A female friend of mine gave it to me about 5 years ago since she has another handgun that she uses for personal defense and it was just sitting around. I never thought to carry it and only viewed it as a novelty. My dad keeps a little 2 shot derringer under the armrest cover of his recliner in case he can't get to his 1911 next to the chair. I'm curious now and I guess I'll go out and shoot it to see if my big hands can even find the sweet spot in holding this thing. It could be an ankle gun backup, I guess. I would not consider it a primary gun.

MCgunner
March 21, 2010, 10:59 AM
A tiny bullet at super-low velocity, in the slowest of all repeating handguns to shoot, with a capacity of only 5 rounds, suggests that this should be a last-ditch weapon indeed, not a primary CCW. Even the lowly .25 ACP (or .22LR in a small semiauto) offers better ballistics, much faster followup shots, and greater capacity, and .32 ACP stomps all over it.

Well, these are the reasons I consider the super companion superior to the ordinary cartridge versions. Of course, it has the 1 5/8" barrel. I see no reason to go shorter. I also, as mentioned, use the holster/grip. I cannot grip these guns otherwise. But, with 2 grains of bullseye behind a 30 grain conical, over 1200 fps is closing on .32ACP for power and I'd trust it to penetrate better than a .22 mag from the same barrel moving slower. Even the 30 grain V Max loads from CCI are slower. Reloads are as quick as changing cylinders, not exactly a magazine change, requires dexterity in the heat of battle not to lose the pin. I realize it's not ideal and don't carry it as a primary unless there's no alternative. If you'd rather be unarmed, that's your choice, but I can go armed undetected even when being armed is illegal and no matter the dress code with the little super companion. I like that choice.

mjb
March 21, 2010, 11:08 AM
I have one in .22WMR. JUNK! It came apart on me for no reason at all.

David E
March 21, 2010, 12:43 PM
I have one in .22WMR. JUNK! It came apart on me for no reason at all.

Care to expand on that?

Or do we presume that you took out the cylinder pin and the cylinder fell out for "no reason?"

Onward Allusion
March 21, 2010, 01:08 PM
I can make torso shots at a B-34 (14"x24") silhouette @ 7 yards if I take the time and slow fire. In 10' to 15' I can do the same only quicker.

I used the standard grips, however, I have medium sized hands. I can see that anyone with a larger hand will have problems fumbling with such a tiny weapon.

Hey, you can always get the laser for it! It's over the top but it's kind of cool. :)

http://www.laserlyte.com/Laser_Gun_Sights/NAA-1/NAA-1.html





Lone_Sheep_Dog (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=101720)
http://www.thehighroad.org/images/icons/icon5.gif NAA mini revolvers
I wanted one of these minis for a ccw. I tried one out and I could not shoot it anywhere near accurately. I must have shot around 400 rounds with little improvement. Do you know anyone who can actually shoot this gun accurately?

oldfool
March 21, 2010, 02:59 PM
it amazes me that these things are still around after so many years
and (apparently), as "popular" as ever
probably will be around forever, too

won't say more than that, because I don't want those gun forum folk who have rationalized them into being practical CCW weapons for defense-of-life-and-family to come agunnin' for me

besides, it ain't like I don't own my own fair share of (other) silly stuff
"for the child within"
which is my personal hypothesis about why those things have been around so long, and probably always will be

"just because" always was reason enough for me, anyway
but truth is that "the child within" never grows old, overrules all/any reason, and demands to be fed from time to time ;)

oldfool
March 21, 2010, 03:02 PM
just curious

somehow or other, I got in in my head that it was Dick Casull
(along with the American 180 and the 454 of course)
talk about versatility, one-of-a-kind

anybody know for sure ???

Onward Allusion
March 21, 2010, 03:48 PM
Yup - Dick Casull design but I think he was with NAA already. He later joined Freedom Arms.


oldfool (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=101854)
http://www.thehighroad.org/images/icons/icon5.gif who invented those, anyway ? just curious

somehow or other, I got in in my head that it was Dick Casull
(along with the American 180 and the 454 of course)
talk about versatility, one-of-a-kind

anybody know for sure ???

oldfool
March 21, 2010, 03:53 PM
thanks !

I thunk I saw 'em somewhere with CASULL engraved right on 'em
(good to know I still remember something right every now and then)

me, I would love to run an American 180, just ONCE doncha' know :)

oldfool
March 21, 2010, 04:32 PM
Care to expand on that?

Or do we presume that you took out the cylinder pin and the cylinder fell out for "no reason?"
just curious...
what are your "splits" running with NAAs ?

PS
uhhh.. sorry.. just couldn't help myself
(aw shut up, UncleJack !)

MCgunner
March 21, 2010, 10:07 PM
When did a gunfight become a game of splits? And, what's the first rule in any gunfight?

FoMoGo
March 21, 2010, 10:36 PM
Bring enough gun...
http://www.turbopinto.com/images/guns/taurusbarrel.jpg


Jim

MCgunner
March 22, 2010, 09:44 AM
I've got a TC contender in .30-30 Winchester. That's "enough gun". If you're on a beach in a bathing suit, you can't conceal it. There are times when you just can't carry any more gun, so you'll either have to carry something like the NAA or nothing. Go unarmed if you're that sanctimonious....:rolleyes: Me, I want the option even if I only have to use it a couple times a year. Besides, mousers are fun. :D

MCgunner
March 22, 2010, 09:48 AM
Oh, yeah, muzzle shots...:D.....

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=67872&d=1196012439

Sniper X
March 22, 2010, 12:03 PM
I'll never forget this trip. We went to Texas to visit the Outlaws, and we rented a pontoon boat from a nearby lake. When I was getting the Yadda yadda from the renter, he had a NAA in the belt buckle that I noticed. I also saw one of the longer barrel ones hand grips poking out of his pocket. We were taking the boat from the slip to the courtesy dock when he saw a snake on the shore about 25ft away. He pulled the one from his pocket and POP! hit it on the first shot! He sticks the gun back in his pocket and says sheepishly, I'm afraid of them damn snakes....

I told him that had to be one of the best snap shots I had ever seen and told him I was a competitive shooter at times. He said he has to shoot the snakes all the time because if he doesn't they get on the boats and scare the heck out of him and the renters.

Haywood
March 22, 2010, 12:25 PM
I call my NAA 22 Mag a nose gun. If I carry it it's Gun# 3. I will put it in a shirt pocket. I figur if you were at a out door bank machine with it in your hand and sombody tried to grab you, you could stick it up their nose and change their minde.

Hardballing
March 22, 2010, 05:06 PM
Haywood, you're not to far off on my experience anyway.

"Back in the day" (Jurassic) when revolvers ruled the world, I was LEO. Carried one of the puppies in a "custom" made holster (my wife sewed the shirt pocket of uniform shirts into a holster pattern) daily. Was gun #3, in addition to primary 4" or 6" and snub on the ankle.

Never thought to bag a rabbit on the run or anything, but in a close in fight with me sticking a .22mag into your ribcage or under your chin...well you get the idea. Fireball on that little mag was HUGE, bigger than the gun :). Always said if I didn't kill ya, at least I'd give you a good 3rd degree burn for measure.

Still have that little mag. Walking the dog at nite, mailbox in the pj/robe, etc. it has never failed to go boom when asked.

biohazurd
March 22, 2010, 06:23 PM
I wouldnt use it as a main ccw or even a back up but as a last resort gun in your pocket or on your ankle it has its value. Look into getting a black widow model. It has a bit bigger grips that are alot easier to shoot accurately with. I think you can buy the grips from NAA also.

scbair
March 22, 2010, 07:05 PM
Yup, back in the day, I referred to mi mini as my "Onion Field Special." Those old-timers familiar with that story (and the book, "The Onion Field," written by Joseph Wambaugh) understand the reference.

Katana8869
March 22, 2010, 07:27 PM
I have really come to like my NAA .22 WMR with the 1 5/8" barrel. I put some bigger grips on it and found that really improved the handling of the gun. I can snap it out of my pocket and keep all of my rounds on a piece of notebook paper at 5-6 yards with no trouble at all. It's not what I would use as a primary CCW, but it has it's place in my line-up of pocket/back-up guns.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/katana8869/gun%20stuff/003-4.jpg

BUFF
March 22, 2010, 09:44 PM
I took my NAA .22lr out for it's checkup this weekend. I used to keep it loaded with stingers, but saw the velocity results at the NAA website: http://www.naaminis.com/lrvelnew.html and I switched to a mix of Aguila 60gr sss and yellowjackets. I fired all rounds thru a 1 1/2" phone book..the aguilas all keyholed but still penetrated and lodged in the 2 X 6 behind book as did the yjackets. The jackets did reach deeper by 1/4" and made a nice clean hole going through. This was from about 5'

glockdriver
March 23, 2010, 12:57 AM
I've carried NAA revolvers off and on for years as "my american express gun" you know , Don't leave home without it. They are great when I'm wearing sweats , they don't drag my pants down , Problem is everyone I've had I end up selling them to friends after they shot them .My personal choice was my Black Widow with a custom Ted Blocker pocket holster.
For your enjoyment heres one done by Ron (I think) Yellowhorse

MCgunner
March 23, 2010, 09:50 AM
I don't get real carried away with one load's power over another. What matters is accuracy and they hit POA. These guns seem very picky about that, or at least mine was. Federal Lightening shoots well and to POA. Stinger sucked in it.

One thing about mine, if the ammo is fresh, it will NOT misfire. That's a good thing with Federal Lightening. Seems the firing pin has some width to it. It is among my most reliable .22s.

BUFF
March 23, 2010, 10:01 AM
I've never had an ignition problem with any ammo in the NAA..even some really old thunderbolts that looked like they had been sitting in a damp cellar for a decade. They did shoot way low though...much like the stingers. The yellowjackets and the aguila's hit pretty close to POA out to about 10' (1 1/8" barrel)

Pancho
March 23, 2010, 12:14 PM
I know that this is slightly off subject but if you would like to see a very neat little revolver check out "The Earl" on NAA's website. 4" octagon barrel and a larger flared grip I took one look and had to have one for a companion to my Ruger Old Army.
I haven't had the time or weather to shoot it seriously but I did take two squirrels off my bird feeder at 20 feet with LR bird shot. Sure surprised me. Squirrel stew tomorrow night.

glockdriver
March 23, 2010, 04:54 PM
I fell in love with the "Earl" also . Would love to see them do it in Blackpowder like the companion

BUFF
March 23, 2010, 06:10 PM
in regards to the blackpowder versions, how long does one want to leave it loaded up with a cap, powder, and ball? If this was your everyday carry piece would you want fire it all out every week or once a month and load up fresh? It just seems like you wouldn't want it sitting around a long time and then fail, if needed.

MCgunner
March 23, 2010, 06:21 PM
in regards to the blackpowder versions, how long does one want to leave it loaded up with a cap, powder, and ball? If this was your everyday carry piece would you want fire it all out every week or once a month and load up fresh? It just seems like you wouldn't want it sitting around a long time and then fail, if needed.

I've been experimenting with that. After a full week of carry, I took it to the range and fired it. No hangfires, every shot accurate and with power. I was shooting 2.0 grain bullseye in the gun.

I've decided that if I carry it more'n a week, I'll pull the cylinder each week and decap, unscrew the nipples and reload. No need to punch out the bullets. I just dump the powder in the nipple hole, then screw the nipple down over it. Works fine. I've done it once.

Now, I don't plan on carrying mine a lot, just occasionally, but I've been carrying it as a back up lately just to experiment. In a sweaty summer pocket, I might need to dump the powder more often, don't know. I'll probably experiment with that in July or August. :D

You need to dump rimfire ammo, too, after a week or two. The humid pocket environment will eventually get to it. Of course, that routine is a little less involved. I'm not sure, but .22 mag might be a little more impervious to moisture since it does not have a heal seated bullet like the LR. I don't have the magnum version.

The spare cylinder for my super companion came in today. I put it in and it works fine. COOL! :D Quick reload available.

mgkdrgn
March 24, 2010, 01:32 AM
I have one in .22WMR. JUNK! It came apart on me for no reason at all.
NAA will make it right if you send it to them. If you don't want to do that, what do you want to sell it to me?

batjka
March 24, 2010, 07:37 AM
MCgunner,

Do you carry it with five loaded chambers or only four with a hammer on an empty? The safety notches do not work in a percussion version because of the different hammer and firing pin. Or do you carry it on a 1/4 cock?

Thanks in advance.

MCgunner
March 24, 2010, 09:04 AM
I decided it was safest to carry it with hammer down on an empty cylinder ala Colt SAA. I don't trust half cocks. I carry the spare cylinder full figuring it won't go in the gun unless it's a shooting war going on and I'm desperate behind cover wanting firepower. And, I always have my .22LR NAA for a NY reload.

The super companion has become a specialty carry for me, to carry when nothing bigger is prudent. As such, it will be loaded, carried for the event in which I need it, then unloaded and stored. I doubt I'll ever carry it daily and in the past I haven't need to carry such a small gun, but on rare occasion. The .22 is easier to keep up with as a daily also carry. It's smaller and easier to hide than a P32 Kel Tec and SHOULD have as good or better penetration, though I haven't experimented with that. Neither thrills me with power, but it's a notch below my .380 in size, so handles the niche for me. The P32 isn't appreciably smaller than the P3AT, so I really don't consider .32 has a place in my collection. And, well, I mainly bought the super companion because I've been thinkin' I wanted one for a while just because. Whether it's a legit carry from time to time was less of a consideration, but it has proven itself worthy to me as an option for special situations, like I say, where nothing bigger is prudent. And, I'll probably clip the thing to the top of my T shirt as I've been doing with my .22 version when I'm wade fishing. Keeps it dry. Don't wanna wade in salt water and get my .38 wet. I'll keep it in a dry box in the Kayak and use the .22 super companion to fight my way back to the .38, as it were. :D And, well, the most I'll probably need it for out there on the bay is to pop a shark if I snag one too big to get my hand around. I do that occasionally. It's a low threat environment, not exactly like a dark parking lot in an urban mall or something. Chances of being accosted out there are nil, I just don't like being totally unarmed. Must be the boy scout training.

And, I'm getting better with this thing, able to get 4-5" groups at 40 feet with it off hand, all-be-it my sight picture is a might weird considering it hits low/left. It is a better "better than nothing" gun than my .22LR version, though, as it has 33 percent more velocity and reloads are quite a bit quicker with the spare cylinder..

Pancho
March 24, 2010, 09:57 AM
MCgunner, I've not handled a muzzleloading NAA. Do they lack the tween chamber safety notch that the 22 Lr and Mag have? I use my NAA mag as a copperhead gun loaded with 5 birdshot and the hammer securely locked into the safety notch. Obviously it is safest to carry the pistol with the hammer on an empty cylinder but IMHO the mechanically positive manner with which the hammer engages the tween cylinder safety notches makes me feel rather secure in it's safety.

MCgunner
March 24, 2010, 10:32 AM
The BP version uses a floating striker/firing pin in the frame and it's big and round to match the percussion cap dimensions. The hammer strikes the striker which crushes the percussion cap. Since the striker is big and round, there's no way to make a safety notch in the cylinder. Those cuts you might notice in the pictures and think are safety notches are what the cylinder locks with, they're not safety notches.

I have found that if you don't rotate the cylinder after loading and installing into the frame, there is enough drag from the caps on the frame of the cylinder that it will not rotate on its own in a pocket. And, truth be told, I don't the half cock could fail even if you dropped the gun on concrete square on the hammer. I'm sure it'd be quite safe to carry that way, cylinder partial rotated and caps keeping it out of battery, but I'm just sorta paranoid of these things. The half cock is more like a 1/20th cock. It doesn't come back just a tad before it hits the half cock. On SAAs, it's more of a HALF cock or at least a quarter cock and those things are heavy if they fall on the hammer.

As I get used to this thing, I may get over the slight paranoia of a half cock failure, I just figure if you carry it hammer down on an empty chamber, you KNOW it's safe. And, I don't think it's the kind of gun that needs an extra round. It's not a combat weapon, it's a pure close range self defense weapon. Don't even think about getting into a run and gun shoot out with this thing. :D I've used a .25ACP before in self defense. Never even had to pull the trigger, the guy ran off. All he had was a knife, but I'm just sayin', self defense isn't combat. Even so, I still want more gun if I can get away with carrying it and I can 99.9 percent of the time. It's that other 0.1 percent of the time that this gun comes in handy. And, hell, I just like playing with mini revolvers. :D

rmfnla
March 24, 2010, 02:01 PM
I've posted elsewhere in THR that I once had one of these (.22 lr) misfire at a critical time so I'm not a fan.

Yes, they are nicely made and yes, they are easy to conceal, but IMHO no rimfire should be used in a situation where making the shot is crucial.

I picked up a Beretta .25 Jetfire and never looked back.

batjka
March 24, 2010, 02:06 PM
rmfnla,

Could you refresh our memory on the incident that happened to you?

Also, the Companion revolvers are not rimfires and can probably be considered center fire revolvers, since they use a percussion cap instead of a primer.

Thank you for your insight and hopefully your incident ended without you being hurt.

MCgunner
March 24, 2010, 03:34 PM
I've had the .22 misfire. The problem is not the gun, but leaving it loaded in a sweaty pocket more'n a couple of weeks. With fresh ammo, this gun has never misfired and I'd trust it to a .25 pocket auto any day for function. Even if it did misfire one round, the next round is ready at the cock of the hammer. Clearing a jam takes longer. If you're not going to maintain the gun by putting fresh ammo in it once each week or two, you ain't gonna keep the lint cleaned out of a 25ACP, either. :rolleyes:

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