Next Snubbie?


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TXHORNS
March 21, 2010, 07:03 PM
I currently have an SP101 and a 340 M&P but I'd like another snubbie so I'm looking for suggestions. I'd like it to be steel, blued and made in the USA. Smith's and Colts come to mind but I am no expert in either, what do yall think? $500 budget would be nice but I am master justifier if needs be.

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GUNKWAZY
March 21, 2010, 07:11 PM
The S&W model 19 is the first one that jumps to mind for a sweet snubbie in that price range. It will end up costing in the $500-$600 range and they are no longer in production.
It's the blued brother of the model 66 S&W.
Wonderful guns.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

Oro
March 21, 2010, 07:34 PM
Yes, a 19 is nice. $500 should be able to land you a nice one. If you want to stay small, then you want a 36 - the J-frame 5 shot .38 Special, akin in size to your 340. $400 for a very nice one. Here's a 19 2.5" snubby - these are K-frame 6-shot .357's:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd275/kamerer/S-W/19-5/IMGP3117.jpg

snooperman
March 21, 2010, 09:21 PM
Weight about 32 ounces and can be had for that price in nice condition. Try gunbroker.com . I bought one about 3 months ago in very nice condition for $400. It was a police trade-in. There have been several lately within your price range. It is a fine revolver.

frankiestoys
March 21, 2010, 09:35 PM
If you like Colts the detective is very nice.

Guillermo
March 21, 2010, 11:16 PM
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/BillLoeb/SDC11852.jpg

there is no finer snubbie than a Detective Special

Old Shooter
March 21, 2010, 11:35 PM
I've never had a Colt revolver, lots of Smiths. But the gun shiops in my area don't seem to get many Colts in and the few they do get look pretty old and beat-up, nothing as nice as the one posted by Guillermo. Where do you guys find those beautys and what price range would you expect them to go for? I'll have to browse Gunbroker I guess but I really like to look at and hold the guns I am considering buying.

FoMoGo
March 21, 2010, 11:40 PM
Keep your eyes peeled for one in .44 special ;)


Jim

Guillermo
March 21, 2010, 11:46 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=510363&highlight=colt

this is a SWEET DS

Buy it or I will

$400 is a STEAL!!!

TXHORNS
March 22, 2010, 11:33 AM
Its looking like I'm gonna have to buy more than one of those listed: the Colt Detective and the Model 19 really catch my eye and are on my list to buy first.

Guillermo: Thanks for the link, that does seem like a steal but I really like the barrel on your Colt better. I'm guessing yours is newer?

Old Shooter
March 23, 2010, 07:58 AM
That shrouded ejector rod does look nicer. I'll have to keep an eye out and mayby put a Colt into the collection for this years purchase.

Is it the year of manufacture that is the difference or are they different models?

Thanks for the link.

TXHORNS
March 23, 2010, 11:03 AM
I think its a -3 or 3rd gen that has the shrouded ejector rod. Makes you wish colt would get into the revolver business again huh?

Water-Man
March 23, 2010, 11:15 AM
Ruger SP-101

Guillermo
March 23, 2010, 11:18 AM
I'm guessing yours is newer

It looks nice and the weight is good but the sights are not near as good as the first release

I think mine was made in 72

TXHORNS
March 23, 2010, 02:34 PM
Interesting...well I'm superficial so I want the prettier one.

mothermopar
March 23, 2010, 02:44 PM
My next one would be the S&W Model 640 Pro Series Revolver w/Night Sights in 38/357.

Glock Holiday
March 23, 2010, 03:00 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x42/Glockholiday/ds3.jpg
Colt Detective Special is hard to beat.

Leafy Cronmer
March 23, 2010, 03:08 PM
Yep add another check to the list, COLT DETECTIVE SPECIAL. So much fun to shoot and you can find them for your price range if you look around.

MichaelB
March 23, 2010, 03:19 PM
I've sent off a Colt New Service in 45 Colt to be "Fitz'd". Barrel will be cut to 2.5", the butt shortened and rounded, hammer spur removed, right side of the trigger guard thinned (not cut per Fitz Special), and finally, a carry "melt" job. Will post this cannon when I get my hot hands on it in 4 months or so...... ;)

jad0110
March 23, 2010, 06:07 PM
You might also consider 2" S&W Model 10s and their adjustable sight brother, the 2" Model 15. I picked up the 2" 15-2 (1965) pictured below early in '09 for $374. A friend of mine got a mint 15-2 2 months ago for $355. BTW, summitgunbroker.com had a few 2" Model 10s recently.

The Colt DS is a very nice snub, I wouldn't mind owning one as a range gun/collectable sometime. My reloading technique that I have practiced for years favors the S&W/Taurus/Ruger style cylinder releases. Nothing wrong with the Colt reverse pull setup, I just don't want to mix the two opposite styles in a gun used for serious purposes.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2015%2038%20Special/047.jpg

TXHORNS
March 23, 2010, 09:03 PM
So whats the difference between a 15 and a 19? This is where S&W gets confusing to me, all these numbers and dashes.

stu454
March 23, 2010, 09:06 PM
The 15 is a .38 and the 19 is a .357.

Also the 15 could be had with a 2" barrel while the shortest 19 is 2.5".

They're both cool, though.

geologist
March 24, 2010, 01:12 AM
S&W model 12-2 Airweight. Basically a 20 oz aluminum frame model 10. Steel cylinder, Tyler-T grip adaptor. I love the way it points and the wonderful DA and SA trigger.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/pbgeologist/S5000001-4.jpg

TXHORNS
March 24, 2010, 01:01 PM
Okay so my next question is this "pinned and recessed barrel" talk regarding the Smith's. Obviously that is important to some people so why is that? I saw a 19-5 that I liked but I THINK it did not have a pinned and recessed barrel. Maybe that had changed by the 5th version? As a shooter should I avoid these or is this just a collector thing to worry about?

Zundfolge
March 24, 2010, 01:05 PM
Okay so my next question is this "pinned and recessed barrel" talk regarding the Smith's. Obviously that is important to some people so why is that? I saw a 19-5 that I liked but I THINK it did not have a pinned and recessed barrel. Maybe that had changed by the 5th version? As a shooter should I avoid these or is this just a collector thing to worry about?

For a shooter, don't worry about it. The "P&R" Smiths are just older and thus more collectible (also no MIM parts and considered to be built during a period when S&W's quality was better, but that could just be a little "good ole days" syndrome).

That said, if I have the choice between a "P&R" and a non "P&R" I take the "P&R" ... it'll hold its value better.

Functionally however, its a non issue.

Guillermo
March 24, 2010, 01:09 PM
but that could just be a little "good ole days" syndrome

nope, it is true. But the MIM, CNC guns are fine too

oldpuppymax
March 24, 2010, 04:11 PM
I've had a 5 shot S&W .38 Airweight for nearly 50 years. They are great weapons and tremendous CC guns. Not rated for +P ammo, but it doesn't really matter. A fine, straight shooting pistol.

Hardballing
March 24, 2010, 04:43 PM
Model 15 2"
Model 19/66 2.5"
Model 686 2.5" (my fave), particularly in 686 plus with that extra round
Colt DS
Colt Agent
Smith Model 10/64 2" (blue or stainless .38)
Smith Model 12 2" ( a GEM of a carry snub)

Did not get into J frames as I LOVE 6 shot or better snubbers. Other than the 686 plus listed (really getting into heavy weight there) they are ALL fine shooters and easy enough on IWB or OWB holsters to pack. Other than the Colt's, they are all, imo, too large for ankle carry comfortably. DS or Agent packs just fine "down lo" on the ankle.

Shame Smith never made a 67 2", THAT would have been a damn fine all weather snubby too.

Just my .02.

Guillermo
March 24, 2010, 06:56 PM
Not rated for +P ammo

while technically this is true, the ammo that they are rated for was hotter than current +p

shoot +p all you want

ohio58
March 24, 2010, 08:34 PM
I agree, the "P & R " is the only snubbies i buy and they do hold there value.
I have a Model 60 stainless 1.875 round butt (1966) and just bought a Model 36 Blue 1.875 square butt. both in excellent condition. If you take some time and look around you can get some excellent buys on the older Smith's. I would never sell either one of the little snubbies...they are great guns.

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