Model 721 info


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log4ever
March 22, 2010, 12:12 AM
Hi, I have 2 model 721's chambered in .270, I was wondering if they would be a suitable starter for 1000 yard matches? Or if I would be better to try using my Garand's?

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Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 12:20 AM
You'll have a hard time outshooting the 721 in .270 with the Garand in 30.06 at that range.
I have several of the 721s in various calibers, and they are uniformly amazing rifles.

KR

log4ever
March 22, 2010, 12:29 AM
KR I think I have to agree with you, my dad bought both of these rifles in 1955 when I was born and he always said the Remington 721 was the best shooting rifle you could find, but then that was along time ago too. When I tell people around here what I am thinking if doing they just look at me like I bumped my head, so I might just have to see if I can make it work. What grain bullet do you think would be best? Terry

SwampWolf
March 22, 2010, 01:37 AM
The Model 721 will do just about anything that the Remington Model 700 will do, everything else being equal. So, yeah, have at it.

rangerruck
March 22, 2010, 02:02 AM
the big question here is, can you find the right bullets? you would need to shoot 140's or better, I would look to see if 160's are made in 270. , and then you would need to handload, I doubt any factory round is going to be accurate or heavy enough for you to make it out to 1000. but if you can find a 160 bullet, and handload it to about 2800 plus fps, and it is accurate, you may have something there... otherwise, look to the mighty Garand.

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 07:27 AM
Terry, I would go with Hornady's 150 gr. SST for a start. I've never loaded for shooting past 500 yards, but that bullet has an excellent ballistic coefficient, and would be an sound place to start. You shouldn't have to do much to the rifle either. The 721s had adjustable triggers, and you can easily tune them to a pound or so with no creep and a crisp break. For hardcore accuracy you'll probably want to pillar bed the stock if you haven't already.

I have a healthy respect for the Garand, but autoloaders are inherently less accurate than bolt actions - there are more variables to control.

If you're getting serious about the long range competition, consider finding one of the 721s in 300 Holland and Holland Express. I have one, and it's amazing. The 300 H&H has won or made good showings in dozens of the Wimbledon 1000 yard rifle match.

KR

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 07:34 AM
The Model 721 will do just about anything that the Remington Model 700 will do

I'm a died-in-the-wool Remington fan, and I've yet to see a 700 that would outshoot the older 721/722 series out of the box. The 721s are heavier, have less ash content in the steel, have remarkable barrels and actions and the best factory triggers I've come across. Winchester may have trademarked "The Rifleman's Rifle" but I always felt like that phrase belonged to the 721/722. The only weak link in the 721 design is the extractor. I've never had one fail personally, but I know others who have. It's a simple fix with a stronger aftermarket replacement.

KR

Runningman
March 22, 2010, 05:17 PM
It's a simple fix with a stronger aftermarket replacement.
Who makes an aftermarket extractor for the 721/722 rifles? Got a link?

log4ever
March 22, 2010, 05:37 PM
Hi guys, thank you so much for ll of your help with this idea. I am definately going to try some Hornady's 150gr SST. I think you can get 270 in as much as 180 gr. but I am not sure. Since I am so new to this I will probably have a bunch more questions to ask. If anyone has anymore suggestions please let me know, I would appreciate all the help I can get. KR I don't know anything about pillar bedding, what exactly is that and what is the benefit? Thanks again for all the help! Terry

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 06:53 PM
KR I don't know anything about pillar bedding, what exactly is that and what is the benefit? Thanks again for all the help! Terry

Pillar bedding involves carving some of the wood out of your stock's barrel channel then installing metal slugs "pillars" down the length of the channel for your barrel to sit on. Pillar bedding or glass bedding either one will improve accuracy in most factory wood-stocked rifles. It's not terribly complicated and there are excellent instructions on both processes on this site.

KR

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 07:24 PM
Who makes an aftermarket extractor for the 721/722 rifles? Got a link?

Callahan makes a Sako-type extractor to be retrofitted to the 700 bolts, but it can be fitted to the 721/722 bolts as well. This does require a competent gunsmith to do the work. Midway carries them. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=670819

Another option is having a gunsmith machine a 700 extractor to your 721 bolt.

KR

Jim Watson
March 22, 2010, 08:16 PM
Is yours broken? If not, leave it alone.

Berger makes a 150 grain .270 VLD with ballistic coefficient of G1 .537 which is pretty good. They say a 10 twist barrel will stabilize it but if it didn't, there is also a 140 grain.

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 22, 2010, 09:39 PM
Is yours broken? If not, leave it alone.

Absolutely! I am decidedly of the school "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." As I posted earlier, I've never had one fail personally, but I know some guys who have. I was simply responding to Runningman's request for more info on replacing broken extractors in these rifles.

I've also never used the Berger bullets, but I keep reading good things about them.

KR

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