Center Balance Rifle Platform Systems, producer of, among other things, a bullpup SKS stock, is coming out with a similar unit for AK-pattern rifles. Say what you will about mall-ninjas fangasming or whatnot, this is pretty cool.
It looks like the quality has come-up since the earlier batches (referring to a practical review on some milsurp rifle forum). Firing demo as well. So, I guess the question at hand is which is uglier, this or the Century? :D
Also, I just thought of something, this would probably be an ideal transplant for a Saiga, and I bet the stock would work for .223 Kalashnaclones too.
And one last thing, they have a stock like this planned for the Saiga-12.
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March 24, 2010, 01:43 PM
Eh, as much as I like bullpups, conversion kits seem to come standard with a good bit of suckage. No experience with these, but I'd take a look at one in person before buying.
March 24, 2010, 07:16 PM
A member of SKSboards.com bought an SKS stock from these guys. We found out some interesting things about them. Namely, sharp edges (possibly cut yourself on your gun), bulky, poor quality (no injection molding here, that's all multiple pieces screwed together).
Here's the thread: http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=61094.0
EDIT: My bad. That's the first thread.
Here is the one with the negative reviews of CBRPS's SKS stock:
All I got to say is: may the force be without me. :D
March 24, 2010, 08:11 PM
@Hammerhead, I went through the 7 pages and found little strongly negative from those who claimed to have the stock in possession. Though, yes, the review I mention in my OP did show a rather disappointing level of finish.
@naolith, yeah, that does look incredibly dumb. Thank goodness that's only an option.
March 25, 2010, 12:50 AM
I like bullpups but that thing is ghastly. The back half particularly looks really bad IMO. All the other mags (or clips as the manufacture calls them on their website) hanging off it is also a bit silly.
March 25, 2010, 01:10 AM
All the other mags (or clips as the manufacture calls them on their website) hanging off it is also a bit silly. The mall ninjas are slavering for'em already . . .
March 25, 2010, 01:22 AM
Three full mags, a bipod, AND a laser hanging off that ridiculous looking contraption? How much must that thing weigh?
March 25, 2010, 01:52 AM
I LOVED the Nagant stock until i saw how it was operated, Seriously what are they thinking....
But i do like the white and black looks of the stocks, Ill be keeping an eye out for them as i swear i cant find the right project gun.
March 25, 2010, 02:28 AM
CBRGator you left out the holosight or reflex sight.
A "trigger-activated laser"? What, does it have a complicated hang-fire system to allow you a second or so to get the laser on target before it fires, or off target if you decide not to at the last second?
I like the white, color it whatever you want, if I ever got one of these I would leave it stormtrooper white. And probably do some white Duracoating to a couple parts of the rifle itself to add to the effect. It would be sweet.
March 25, 2010, 03:26 AM
What's up with the "military/law enforcement only" BS on the their site? Like ANY law enforcement agency is going to be converting AK's into bullpups using someone's backyard project, DIY conversion kit. Read the "Military Agencies, Special Ops" section of the website. ROFLMAO! This guy has been watching too many James Bond movies. He needs to change his company motto to "For mall ninjas, by mall ninjas." When someone who doesn't even know the difference between a magazine and a clip starts spouting off about "civilan" and "military only" models, covert ops and cladestine missions, my BS meter just goes off the chart.
March 25, 2010, 10:20 AM
What's up with the "military/law enforcement only" BS on the their site? Like ANY law enforcement agency is going to be converting AK's into bullpups using someone's backyard project, DIY conversion kit. Read the "Military Agencies, Special Ops" section of the website. ROFLMAO! This guy has been watching too many James Bond movies. He needs to change his company motto to "For mall ninjas, by mall ninjas." When someone who doesn't even know the difference between a magazine and a clip starts spouting off about "civilan" and "military only" models, covert ops and cladestine missions, my BS meter just goes off the chart. You think Gecko45 went into business?
March 25, 2010, 11:14 AM
Are there Mission operations that require stealth where 7.62 ammo expelled brass in lieu of US standard ammo/brass would provide better transparency?
Wow, he's seriously trying to market this to SFOD-D and/or the CIA? :what:
Are there confined troop vehicle conditions that nonetheless require immediate and full caliber assault rifle capabilities while transporting in cramped quarters?
Yes, that's why the SCAR project was started with easy to swap in short barrels and folding buttstocks.
Does having a streamlined, enclosed, snag-free LED flashlight and trigger activated red dot laser carried within the body of the rifle helpful?
There may perhaps be a situation where expelled brass, say from a 556 or 308 barreled action,
Wait, did he seriously just say "556 or 308" while talking about a military small arm?
could jeopardize the stealth posture that your operation requires and would be detrimental for the long term purposes of your mission. This may be a situation where the AK 47 close-quarters Arm Gun firing in 7.62x39 caliber round provides an additional benefit that is simply not possible with a weapon firing an easily identified American round. Furthermore, for Military situations, the Center Balanced Logo and any other identifying marks are eliminated from those production runs for various reasons. If you believe your operations may benefit from this system and you require a product demonstration, please contact Bernie Rolfe directly in order to make arrangements.
I'm honestly tempted to give him an AKO address and tell him I'm a purchasing agent with the, insert some official sounding DoD small arms project name, in charge of looking at interesting prototypes. I'd probably get my email spammed and there's probably some policy against impersonating a DoD purchasing agent though, even for such hilarious purposes.
March 25, 2010, 11:17 AM
It almost looks interesting though, if it's $50 or less that is. I'm sure he's selling a few of them.
March 25, 2010, 11:28 AM
It looks nifty, but does it suffer from the same crappy trigger problem that every bullpup ever made (except apparently the KelTec RFB) does?
March 25, 2010, 11:37 AM
The Russian designs are a wire anyway, lengthening the wire couldn't change them that much so long as you can keep the tension similar.
March 25, 2010, 12:10 PM
It looks nifty, but does it suffer from the same crappy trigger problem that every bullpup ever made (except apparently the KelTec RFB) does?Don't know about the RFB (but have high hopes), but my SRS trigger is outstanding (fully adjustable, no creep, breaks cleanly at 1lb). Additionally, I imagine the Barrett
M-99/M-95 is just as good.
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
March 25, 2010, 12:39 PM
Nalioth - good grief is right! Lookit, you've got a bullpup SBR with a bipod in the only place you could possible put your support hand - do you realize how incredibly easy and tempting it would be to put your off hand around the front, right in front of the muzzle - that thing is crazy dangerous to noobs and old hats alike. That thing would be *perfect* for a 16" bbl (sans some of the doodads), for giving you the best balance of handling, ballistic performance and short overall length - but some nincompoop goes to the trouble of putting what looks to be a 12" bbl or so on it, in order to try to get his hand blown off.