Jeff Quinn and safety glasses


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9mm+
March 24, 2010, 10:25 PM
I have always enjoyed reading Jeff Quinn's Gun Blast, and I recently read his review on the Taurus 738 and watched the video, too. I don't recall seeing Jeff wear safety glasses in his videos (he may have, but I just don't remember), but you can really see the brass flying in the video of the 738. It appears that the 738's ejector is engineered to send the brass directly to the head. http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-PT738.htm

I don't want to sound preachy and I certainly respect Jeff's firearms knowledge, but some hot brass to the eye could certainly ruin your day (same for ricochet, too). It's certainly his prerogative to not wear safety glasses, but it hampers the collective safety mantra that we all preach to students when high-profile gun gurus don't wear them.

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AZ_Rebel
March 24, 2010, 10:35 PM
My favorite Jeff Quinn Picture....

KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET.:cuss:
http://dickdejong.fileave.com/JW-big.jpg
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

9mm+
March 24, 2010, 10:45 PM
Hahaha, AZ...it appears that Jeff may have fallen off the safety wagon. ;)

hso
March 24, 2010, 10:59 PM
Just because someone self produces some media material doesn't mean they're the best example for gun owner behavior.

NinjaFeint
March 24, 2010, 11:08 PM
It is disappointing they are not setting a better example. Non-withstanding of my personal opinion of the site, their reviews show up high on a google search of a lot of popular firearms. It would be nice to see them setting a better example for new shooters who may happen upon their site.

mljdeckard
March 24, 2010, 11:12 PM
He's old-school. Like my dad. Safety gear is for wusses. (He just doesn't know how loud he's saying it.)

heron
March 24, 2010, 11:27 PM
Yeah, you can see one of the empties land on his head, and he mentions that in the text. So, at least wear a hat!

I also noticed him being a bit lax about getting his hands in front of the muzzle . . .

22-rimfire
March 24, 2010, 11:33 PM
I don't think Jeff Quinn has ever shot a gun he didn't like. But I still enjoy reading his stuff.

cchris
March 25, 2010, 12:15 AM
"Safety glasses are for wimps!"

"Um, hey...I'm over here."

Zoidberg523
March 25, 2010, 12:32 AM
He's old-school. Like my dad. Safety gear is for wusses. (He just doesn't know how loud he's saying it.)

I know what you mean - my father and my uncles (nearly deaf, all of them) never wore shooting glasses or any form of hearing protection.

I am glad to say that I do not follow their lead, lol. :D

1KPerDay
March 25, 2010, 12:50 AM
I PMed him and asked him if the camera frequently in front of the muzzle was on a remote. He said it was his brother who doesn't mind it a bit.

cchris
March 25, 2010, 01:15 AM
He said it was his brother who doesn't mind it a bit.

Until he gets a .45-70 round lodged in his chest. Then he might mind a little.

1KPerDay
March 25, 2010, 01:21 AM
Naaah...

earlthegoat2
March 25, 2010, 06:43 AM
Just because someone self produces some media material doesn't mean they're the best example for gun owner behavior.

Though this is true, it is unfortunate that Jeff Quinn has become quite a firearms icon. He was swarmed at the SHOT show and since Gunblast comes up everytime you Google a gun he has reviewed, the average Kool Aid new jack gun owner is going to use his example as gospel.

The fact he is not wearing safety glasses is really a moot point in my mind though. I think it is everyones own choice what safety measures they take and why. I do not like seatbelt laws because the govt is protecting people from themselves which by and large, are some of the most annoying laws out there. (the ones that protect you from yourself) Jeff is old school but there are plenty of other old schoolers out there that now wear their eyes and ears.

I say take off the warning labels and let them all sort themselves out though Darwinism.

Having said all this, I do wear eye and ear protection as well as my seat belt and I would even if I did not have to.

My favorite Jeff Quinn Picture....

KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET.

Maybe Jeff has a beef with that cameraman.

alohachris
March 25, 2010, 08:27 AM
I looked at a recent video of his where he reviews the Smith & Wesson MP 15-22. He has his grandson shooting the rifle without any eye protection. They do wear ear protection though. I know Jeff has never met a gun he didn't like, but what keeps me coming back to his site is his reviews.

His reviews are in depth, with good camera work and he show his targets & groups with a variety of ammunition. The hilarious comments he sometimes makes are priceless. "The Smith & Wesson 15-22 come with a 25 round magazine and I hear there's a 10 rounder for those a you who live in them there Communist areas."

WC145
March 25, 2010, 08:41 AM
Honestly, why does anyone care what Jeff Quinn does safety wise? He has his own self-published gun website, that's all. His exposure via that website does not come with any responsibility to meet other's expectations of safe behavior or equipment use.

dom1104
March 25, 2010, 08:42 AM
1. I am glad he is making videos, its usefull and something that helps the cause.
2. Bagging on him if you yourself havent done anything similar is... bad form.
3. Yes he ... is obviously easily pleased :)
4. Do I enjoy watching his videos on guns? Yep.
5. Do I think you all are pretty stupid for bashing? yes. If we drive off everyone trying to contribute, we will end up with nobody making videos on the net. Just live and let live and dont get all pissy.

9mm+
March 25, 2010, 08:51 AM
I am glad he is making videos, its usefull and something that helps the cause

I teach students every month basic rifle, basic pistol and CCH, and in every class at least one person will bring up Jeff Quinn's website. Do I enjoy his commentary and videos? Absolutely! I think he's witty and has great insight into firearms. But I do cringe when I see some of the safety lapses. With new students especially, a lot of behavior their behavior is "monkey see, monkey do", so I do think the collective cause of stressing shooting safety takes a hit with these videos.

Sam1911
March 25, 2010, 09:00 AM
I've never been to his site or watched any of his videos. In fact, I don't recognize the name. (But I do like that beard!)

However, I believe that those who would put out a popular mass-consumption product like a well-known gun blog or review site should accept that we represent, and influence, our whole "culture" through our public persona.

It is a free country and there's no reason "the gov'mint" should force anyone to do, well, almost anything. However, a few (thousand) politely worded emails from Mr. Quinn's "fans" asking him to consider that he's educating his viewers about more than just the technical details of firearms, but also about shooting safety and gunhandling in general, and so should make sure that he's seen to always be wearing the proper safety equipment, would not be out of line.

That's not "forcing" him to do anything and it is coming from his audience, not an outside authority. It can only help him to know how he's perceived and to what standards his "public" holds him.

Sure, he's "just some guy" -- a private citizen doing his own thing -- but when any of us step into the public spotlight we represent the whole "shooting community" to one degree or another, and our actions, manners, and attitudes about safety reflect on all of us -- and inform/instruct others about what is safe and appropriate, as well.

It is his right to behave like a fool if he wants, but if he's a responsible person there's no reason not to consider the impact his public actions may have.

EddieNFL
March 25, 2010, 09:05 AM
I've never been to his site or watched any of his videos. In fact, I don't recognize the name.

Same here.

(But I do like that beard!)

I think he needs a shave.

JShirley
March 25, 2010, 09:28 AM
Now-gone buddy and staff member Byron Quick saved one of his eyes by wearing shooting glass when shooting a newly acquired, beautiful Model 57. Turned out it was out of time, and left powder burns and bits of lead in his right cheek. Glasses saved his eye, though.

Which is good, because he had a stroke, and lost almost all use of his other eye in 2004... :(

wishin
March 25, 2010, 09:29 AM
What he does off camera is his business, (with or without guns) otherwise he's thumbing his nose at everybody!

TexasBill
March 25, 2010, 10:23 AM
Even though we diverge politically, I like Jeff's website and his reviews and have corresponded with him (he is quite a gentleman, by the way).

I don't see where Jeff needs to be a role model for anyone. If one of his sponsors wants to bring it up, that's different.

BTW: Seat belt laws aren't just government telling you what to do. They're government trying to save society a pile of money. Seat belts save lives and reduce the severity of injury. This reduces the strain on emergency services resources and wear and tear on the personnel.

dom1104
March 25, 2010, 10:37 AM
Bad road to go down.

Lets just replace "Seat Belt" with "Gun Control".

"BTW: Gun Control laws aren't just government telling you what to do. They're government trying to save society a pile of money. Gun Control saves lives and reduce the severity of injurys. This reduces the strain on emergency services resources and wear and tear on the personnel."

Just because the government thinks its a "Good Idea" doesnt mean it should be mandated.

Just sayin.

Of course I buckle up, but not because the Government tells me so.

<Odd how discussin a guy on the internet turned into seat belts.>

Prion
March 25, 2010, 10:39 AM
BTW: Seat belt laws aren't just government telling you what to do. They're government trying to save society a pile of money. Seat belts save lives and reduce the severity of injury. This reduces the strain on emergency services resources and wear and tear on the personnel

And saving us all from having to pay for intensive care treatment for the uninsured. It is a strain on our society when if someone flaunts their personal safety then expects full medical care they can't afford when when they get hurt. If someone disregards the basics of safety and then injures their eye, please, just put a band-aid on it and hope for the best. The rest of don't need to be paying for someone elses stupidity and negligence. It's not just about your freedom unless you can pay in full. Then go ahead, brain youself!

Sam1911
March 25, 2010, 11:26 AM
WOAH! We're getting off track. Seat belt laws and taxpayer subsities for the uninsured are not on-topic for THR.

Further, they aren't pertitent to this conversation.

No one has suggested that the government should step in and mandate that Mr. Quinn wear safety glasses! :rolleyes:

I do stand by my OPINION that someone in Mr. Quinn's role (putting out a wide-market gun review series) should realize that his public actions do influence other shooters. Especially the young and uninformed. As such, I believe that he should take care to carry himself in a professional manner and display all the proper safety precautions.

Sure there are a lot of idiots on youtube doing all kinds of stupid things with firearms. But Mr. Quinn doesn't seem to aspire to be one of them. By providing a site like GunBlast he's elevating himself to be a sort of an authority on shooting -- whether he means to or deserves the title or not -- and so, I believe, he should take care to ensure that his public actions only influence and guide others to do the RIGHT thing.

NelsErik
March 25, 2010, 11:33 AM
I think Nutnfancy has the best reply to some of the comments in this thread...


What Nuntnfancy Says... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xqag3srgw)


It is easy to hate and be a critic, but actually making something yourself is much to hard....

1KPerDay
March 25, 2010, 11:36 AM
Maybe Jeff has a beef with that cameraman.
*snerk* :D

Big_E
March 25, 2010, 01:13 PM
I always wear eye protection. I am afraid what hot brass to an eye would do. Still have a slight scar bump in my nose from ammo that was sitting out in the sun, with a Win 94 that was out in the sun, my nose was sunburned slightly and that ejected case landed right on the bridge of my nose. Yikes! that stung. Hate 100 degree weather.

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