Black Rifles On Sale~!


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Ala Dan
March 25, 2010, 09:09 PM
Hello All-

With President Barry O's health care reform now in the basket, I think we
should turn our attention to his very next move; which could be towards
the re-kindling of the "black rifle" proposal that still resides in back of his
mind. In the past few months, I have noticed that the price tag on these
awesome firearms have dropped dramatically. We recently ran a sale on
both Smith & Wesson M&P-15's, and Double Star flat tops (optics ready)
for $779; your choice~! Now, comes along a beautiful Rock River Arms
LAR-15 called the "Operator Elite" in 5.56 caliber; complete with scope
mounts, 2x 30 round magazines, manual of arms, warranty certificate,
and hard case for only $1099.88 + applicable sales tax. I will have too
admit, I jumped on this band wagon myself; as it was too good a deal
to pass up. Yes, I still have my Colt CAR-15; and NO its not for sale.
Has anybody else taken advantage of the new prices on these AR's~?

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TX1911fan
March 25, 2010, 09:14 PM
I have two now. My buddy is working out the details on manufacturing .308 ARs now. Right here in Texas. I'll let y'all know when they are ready for purchase.

JMMinor
March 25, 2010, 09:39 PM
Im from Montgomery, and was just wondering where your at in Alabama?

Ala Dan
March 25, 2010, 09:51 PM
I'm in Bessemer, AL and work here:

Simmons Sporting Goods
2001-2nd Ave North
Bessemer, AL 35020
PX: (205) 425-4720 or (205) 426-0490
Co-Owners = Clay and Peter Simmons

dakotasin
March 25, 2010, 10:35 PM
wish you woulda publicized the m&p's... and if you did, i regret missing that boat. feel free to contact me if/when you run a sale on remington r-25's - that is my next buying spree...

joshk-k
March 25, 2010, 11:01 PM
Nonsense gobbeldy-gook speculation. There's been essentially nothing done by this administration so far that shows that they're even thinking about taking away your guns. If anything, I think gun rights are actually gaining ground.

Shear_stress
March 25, 2010, 11:13 PM
With President Barry O's health care reform now in the basket, I think we
should turn our attention to his very next move; which could be towards
the re-kindling of the "black rifle" proposal that still resides in back of his
mind.

Really? Seriously? Can we give the scare tactics a rest for a few minutes? AR prices are low now because retailers bet the farm on the last round of hysteria and are now bloated with excess stock.

The cynical "they'z gonna be banned any day!" tactic to move inventory is getting old and is actually counterproductive because it makes people resigned to the inevitability of a ban (oh, but that's okay because they "got their's already"). Worse, the constant drum beat lowers the signal to noise ratio when it comes to actual legislation with more than a ghost of a chance of passing. The gun-buying public will eventually get tired of panicing and tune out. This is the last thing we want. You can only cry wolf so many times before people stop listening.

Edited to add: CDNN's got M&P-15s for $799 with 10 Thermolds and 5 P-mags thrown in. The CMMG bargain bin is full. It's a buyer's market.

nwilliams
March 25, 2010, 11:54 PM
Nonsense gobbeldy-gook speculation. There's been essentially nothing done by this administration so far that shows that they're even thinking about taking away your guns. If anything, I think gun rights are actually gaining ground.
+10000

Let's please not start another gun grab scare.:banghead:

DoubleTapDrew
March 26, 2010, 12:22 AM
I bought two this year since the price finally started coming down after the freak-out prices of 09 (which I refused to participate in and didn't buy a thing all year).

Uncle Mike
March 26, 2010, 01:08 AM
They're coming to take your guns...they're coming to take your guns...they're coming to take your guns....

I feel ya' about the 'scare tactics' stuff, but.....

racerngr1
March 26, 2010, 01:13 AM
Does anybody know if the Smith & Wesson M & P is legal in California? I can't find anything on the CA DOJ website.

Uncle Mike
March 26, 2010, 01:23 AM
Does anybody know if the Smith & Wesson M & P is legal in California? I can't find anything on the CA DOJ website.

I may be mistaken but...I do believe that Smutt and Wesson does offer a CA compliant model of the M&P.

W.E.G.
March 26, 2010, 01:25 AM
I have several EBR's that I'd like to sell.
Safe queens hogging-up space where I wanna stick a couple lever-guns.

I could use a seriously viral rumor to jack up the EBR prices.
Where do I apply?

hogshead
March 26, 2010, 01:29 AM
I personally have nothing against poodles. However I beleive when the Chosen one see's the end is near. We will see legislation like we have never seen.

AR-15 Rep
March 26, 2010, 01:37 AM
++ on the "no gun scare" ... I need a break... Still playing catch up on the last year and a half. Prices have dropped due to some companies over extending thinking they had huge quantities of orders. The reallity is that one person was so scared they ordered from multiple companies trying to get one. Basically one in every three orders were real. Some companies ordered so much from manufacturing only to find out they had way to much and no orders, so they are just trying to get the money they paid into purchasing products, back into the companies. It will be short lived until the products are off the shelf and then back up to normal pricing.
There is always something in the works with legislation, however, nothing that can be passed with the stroke of a pen over night. Any legislation that could be possible would take quite a while and a huge legal fight before it could pass. Remember... only a lower receiver on a black rifle is registered as a firearm all the other parts are bought and sold without paperwork or serial numbers.

memphisjim
March 26, 2010, 01:38 AM
obama wont do anything before next election

boxcab
March 26, 2010, 07:55 AM
obama wont do anything before next election

His or the mid-term?






:)

inclinebench
March 26, 2010, 09:42 AM
I am not a big fan of scare tactics myself, but...Kathleen Sebelius the secretary of Health and Human services is very anti gun, and has proposed regulating firearms by calling them a health hazzard. The latest healthcare legislation gives her a good bit of power. So, I guess I am fanning the flames here a bit, but backdoors have always been how people bypass our constitutional rights.

AR-15 Rep
March 26, 2010, 10:11 AM
Well.... There goes the slight break, and explains the run on 80% receivers and jig sets.

EdLaver
March 26, 2010, 10:57 AM
Obama knows his boundaries, if he sprung something like that after force feeding this Healthcare Bill to the overwhelming numbers that didnt want it, surely their would be huge reprocussions.

Geno
March 26, 2010, 11:18 AM
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! <<Pushes Uncle Mike to safety>> Holy ***** that was close!

Good thing I got cho back, Uncle Mike!

Geno

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
March 26, 2010, 11:24 AM
Has anybody else taken advantage of the new prices on these AR's~?

Ha ha - no..... I was true to form with my expertise in buying high and selling low. But if you don't have one, or have one and want some more, or have many and want some more, than the glut has indeed created a fantastic buyer's market - get 'em while they're hot, kiddos. :)

racerngr1
March 26, 2010, 03:18 PM
Really? Seriously? Can we give the scare tactics a rest for a few minutes? AR prices are low now because retailers bet the farm on the last round of hysteria and are now bloated with excess stock.

The cynical "they'z gonna be banned any day!" tactic to move inventory is getting old and is actually counterproductive because it makes people resigned to the inevitability of a ban (oh, but that's okay because they "got their's already"). Worse, the constant drum beat lowers the signal to noise ratio when it comes to actual legislation with more than a ghost of a chance of passing. The gun-buying public will eventually get tired of panicing and tune out. This is the last thing we want. You can only cry wolf so many times before people stop listening.

Edited to add: CDNN's got M&P-15s for $799 with 10 Thermolds and 5 P-mags thrown in. The CMMG bargain bin is full. It's a buyer's market.
So if I want a AR that shoots the 5.56 round where is the best place to buy one right now, whose got the best deals? I'm interested.

Gelgoog
March 26, 2010, 06:44 PM
this is the kind of crap that Classic Arms did to create the great AK panic of 07'. Great you have a huge inventory and need to pay bills, don't go creating a panic just to move inventory.

The dems are already in enough hot water and they still remember how they got kicked out of office due to the original ban, they are not going to do anything for the foreseeable future. The last thing they need is to give more fuel to fox news and the tea party movement.

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 26, 2010, 08:01 PM
I refuse to panic.

I've seen so many of these things come and go (including the Assault Rifle Ban of the Clinton era.) Then there was the "expiring primers" crap sometime back. Then the 5000% ammo tax fiasco that we're still sorting out. (Oh how often WE are our own worst enemies!)

At the end of the day, ANY piece of legislation that actually got passed can be repealed by the next administration. I think we'll see significant changes in the political makeup of our representatives and senators come November.

KR

Arkel23
March 26, 2010, 08:31 PM
Let's not cause another panic for people that half read everything.

redneck2
March 26, 2010, 08:42 PM
Couple of things to consider for the cooler headed among us...

first is the primer shortage. Now, nothing that the current administration did in any way contributed to the shortage. Still, we had endless threads for months bitching and moaning about primer availability. Now that they're available, I've got maybe 15k in my shop. Next scare, there will guys bitching and moaning that could have bought them now.

Ammo shortage. Nothing that the current administration did contributed to the shortage...etc., etc......

As noted, EBR's are as cheap as they've been in a LONG time. While I have no fear that the dems will try to ban them up front, something like a treaty or executive order may happen.

Dunno. What I do know is that, while I could get one if I wanted, now is the time.

Girodin
March 26, 2010, 09:43 PM
I think we
should turn our attention to his very next move; which could be towards
the re-kindling of the "black rifle" proposal that still resides in back of his
mind.

The Dems next move will almost assuredly not be an AWB. No one who really follows politics in an informed way thinks that.

Mr. T
March 27, 2010, 02:53 AM
I'm actually seriously considering an AR in .308/7.62 NATO right now. I've got the 5.56 NATO and I'm looking at extending my caliber foot print. Personally I would like something slightly more effective for Whitetail/Big Game Hunting.

c919
March 27, 2010, 03:13 AM
Oh yeah, just too good to pass up. Thanks Obama.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy276/c919/DSC01506.jpg

Ignition Override
March 27, 2010, 03:18 AM
It's all about how a President and Cabinet want to spend 'political capital', if there is any bit leftover when the looming tax increases become publicized, among stagnating unemployment with no legislation (until now) created only to target job growth.
Our leftist "leaders" appear to have no more 'capital' to waste, and might be nervous about November's elections.

1) They immediately 'muzzled' (silenced) Attorney General :evil:Eric Holder in spring
'09, discussing Mexican drug gangs and their guns, when he brought up "another ban on assault weapons"......
Remember reading any further published quotes (from the White House) about the subject?

2) A link to 'GB' was seen by many of us last fall.
A seller in Keene, NH listed 70,000 rds. of G. Tiger (and maybe Wolf/Bear) 7.62x39 at the same time!
Among many others, I saw his listings.
These scalpers helped to create the ammo shortage and now they might be in real trouble.

OhioChief
March 27, 2010, 07:24 PM
Oh he's to worried about taking over the auto industry, insurance industry, the utilities, health care. He won't focus on our guns till until his second term, which for him is just a given that it will happen. Probably wonders why we'll even waste time on an actual vote.

KodeFore
March 27, 2010, 08:05 PM
Ya they do sell ca compliant sw mps whole or in part.

M&PVolk
March 27, 2010, 08:46 PM
He may be distracted, but given this administration's lack of concern over the will of the represented and relentless commitment to the execution of their own agenda, I wouldn't rule anything out. I'm not suggesting panic, but to think GC is off the books is a bit naive.

If the makeup of Congress changes over midterms as expected, it should effectively neuter the most controversial legislation rendering Obama's more radical agendas unfulfilled. This could cause a quick push to enact the more controversial items before midterms. After all, if those Democrat seats are going to be lost already, why not force through even more radical legislation? The net loss is the same, and more of Obama's legislation actually makes it through.

The only question is, just how high does gun control rank on his scale of importance?

IdahoSkies
March 27, 2010, 09:59 PM
GC is a top issue for a small number of democrats. With the economy the way it is the "global warming"/environmental crises, immigration, GC is a low priority, and one that will cause a large number of his redstate democrates in the house to loose if touched. I don't forsee a lot Obama spending politcal capital on the issue. That being said if a GC bill landed on his desk through no work of his own, I don't doubt he would sign it.

Balrog
March 27, 2010, 11:35 PM
If the Tea Party movement grows and remains a political threat to Obama, I have no doubt a violent incident involving the Tea Party will be staged (much like the staged racial slurs during the health care debate), and the door will be open to gun legislation.

If you don't own an AR, now is the time to buy. Prices have never been lower, and the window of opportunity will eventually be closed.

mordechaianiliewicz
March 27, 2010, 11:36 PM
I hope that Kentucky Rifleman is correct, and we'll have a one term president and a major change in our legislature. But I have my doubts. That being said, I'm not on the EBR-buy bandwagon.

benzy2
March 28, 2010, 12:04 AM
Shouldn't this be closed for both being/turning political in the rifle forum and for being a sales add in the rifle forum? We have a classified forum for a reason.

Geno
March 28, 2010, 01:08 PM
Curse you guys, especially the OP! You all got me to thinking about how lonesome my Bushmaster ORC was getting. I had to attach my Nightforce scope and take it to the range. We are both much happier now, and the voices in my head have quieted their screams for more "black rifles". Back to my padded room. :scrutiny:

Geno

Hatterasguy
March 28, 2010, 05:35 PM
Gun owners are usualy their own worst enemy. They buy into this panic and drive prices through the roof.

This administration as actualy been quite good in regards to firearms laws. They havn't passed any, and nothing AFAIK is waiting to be passed. They have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

Obama has been very good to the arms industry. He has kept these two wars going, been very generous with DOD funding, and scared half the gun owners in the country into panic buying mode.

While I don't agree with a lot of the other things he has done, so far his record on guns is quite good.

winchester '97
March 28, 2010, 10:48 PM
Am i the only one that noticed the guy that started the scare thread also is selling guns?

Geno
March 28, 2010, 11:01 PM
No, I noticed it immediately. It seems the post might better be in the Buy Rifles section. :) But that's cool. The thread encouraged me to bond with my Bushmaster.

Geno

Balrog
March 28, 2010, 11:03 PM
Am i the only one that noticed the guy that started the scare thread also is selling guns?

Obama started the scare.

Ky Larry
March 29, 2010, 09:05 AM
If you want a Black Rifle, go about it in the same way you would go about any other gun purchase. Try to be rational and objective in your decision making. Don't let hysteria, fear, and greed color your mind set. I think a lot of people got greedy and thought they could make a fast buck by buying certain weapons and are now left holding the bag. Just look at the ammo shortage.

Handgunner
March 29, 2010, 09:59 AM
Am i the only one that noticed the guy that started the scare thread also is selling guns?

Strange how that works ain't it? :D

Ala Dan
March 29, 2010, 07:08 PM
I did not start this thread too scare anyone; that was
not my intentions at all~! I just wanted to let everyone know,
that if it is a "black rifle" they are after; now is the time too buy.
Many thanks too my friend Balrog for being the one that pointed
out who actually started the scare~! ;) :D

Yes, I do sell firearms as a hobby; as I have other means to
make a living (Just for those that want to know)~!

winchester '97
March 30, 2010, 01:04 AM
Scare thread, we all know it was the chosen one who started the scare, but it was people trying to make a profit that fanned the flames.

walteray
March 30, 2010, 01:22 AM
He's gonna try, he'll try at least once... Will it succeed? We wont know untill he tries, I didnt think his socialist agenda was gonna get anything through I was pretty niave and honestly believed our senate and house would see just how truely communist this health care bill was, and Im not even being un real here. It really is 100% communist legislation, so a new shot at gun control and a "assualt weapon" ban? Def not out of the picture I hope he is smarter than to take a shot at some already very pissed off Americans though. I paid my NRA dues I hope you did too....

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 30, 2010, 02:57 AM
so a new shot at gun control and a "assualt weapon" ban? Def not out of the picture I hope he is smarter than to take a shot at some already very pissed off Americans though. I paid my NRA dues I hope you did too....

Agreed. Nothing is out of the question, and I agree with IdahoSkies that I believe Obama would sign almost any GC legislation that landed on his desk. I also think the considerations of political capital are correct. The current administration spent a lot of it shoveling the healthcare bill through. I think they'll try to spend what they have left wisely.

On a happier note, Obama did sign in the legislation allowing us to carry weapons in the national parks. He has also stated (post-election) that he believes we need to do a better job of enforcing the GC legislation already in existence instead of drafting new legislation. I agree.

Healthcare reform aside, Obama has upset the far left almost as often and almost as badly as he's aggravated the more conservative amongst us. It's true; you can't please all the people all the time.

I keep mulling over the Hutaree ugliness. IF, and I do mean IF, they were manufacturing bombs and planning to murder police officers, then I will not stand up for them or their "cause." Just because I disagree with an individual/group's views on one issue does not mean I'll disagree with their views on EVERY issue, nor will I agree with every view held by any individual or group simply because I agree with their views on one issue.

It seems like American politics have polarized over the past two decades. So many arguments I read these days boil down to "That is a terrible idea because person / party X is on board with it / against it." I'm not going to buy into or reject any idea based solely on who favors it or who doesn't.

I'm a second amendment supporter through and through, but many of my other political views would be seen as moderate or - horror of horrors - liberal. A lot of it depends on who you ask :)

KR

walteray
March 30, 2010, 03:05 AM
I agree with you one hundred percent Rifleman. I cant take a side with who favors what anymore, everyone is so corrupt and spun by favors.
Your right with health care they called in a ton of favors and tried and did push through so much legislation in the bill that they have pissed off both the left and right. Your also right that he will sign any GC legislation dropped on his desk, probably without even looking at.
As far as the hutaree thing goes if they are guilty of anyplot to kill cops or make bombs (short of that guy that shot a hundred pounds tannerite on his own property) you wont hear a peep from me in favor of those people. I'm still enlisted and I will support our rights especially A2 till I die, but if you think blowing up federal employees is the way to go you are a wack job, if you're innocent your have support!

rogertc1
March 30, 2010, 07:56 AM
Remember the Obama and his minions are the gun owners friend!!! They did pass thre Health Contol without even knowing what is in it...still to be determined.

Anytime is a good time to buy a gun. If you have the cash and want one get it.

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