i have been thinking about getting a 45 revolver and alot of people i have spoken to have pointed me in the direction of the Taurus .45 ACP revolver i want a revolver but im not completely sold on the taurus does anyone out there have any points or opinions about other .45 revolvers:banghead:
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April 2, 2010, 10:14 PM
Smith and wesson 625 is a great gun. If you want to go the Single Action route, you could get a nice Blackhawk convertible with both a Long colt and ACP cylinder.
April 2, 2010, 10:18 PM
Ruger Redhawk in .45 Colt :D
April 2, 2010, 10:38 PM
that blackhawk is a nice looking gun but its too long for my tastes i guess i should have specified great idea thx btw but i should have specified that i need it to be a smaller one for easy concealment and the taurus i mentioned before does come in a snub nose size i already carry a sigma SW9VE 9mm now i just need the revolver for back up which im also about to trade in the 9 for a sigma .40 SW40VE
April 2, 2010, 10:43 PM
If your going to shoot a revolver anyway, why not get one in a caliber that will optimize the power potential of a revolver and not limit you to the lower powered semi auto cartridges. 45 LC 357 mag, 44 magnum 454, 460 etc etc
April 2, 2010, 10:54 PM
Let me get this straight: You want a .45 revolver as a backup gun? It'd likely be bigger and heavier than your Sigma.
April 2, 2010, 10:54 PM
My experience with Taurus guns has been almost 100% bad. I would advise you to stay away from them. I know there are some people on THR and elsewhere (including LEOs) who say they have good luck with them, but the vast majority of people I have known don’t like them. They are terribly unreliable and many are incurably inaccurate. In my experience, factory service has been poor.
I shoot IDPA including revolver, and the S&Ws are nearly 100% of the guns seen. Most are S&W model 625 .45ACP, near clones of Jerry Miculek’s.
In my opinion, .45ACP can be as powerful as standard pressure .45 Colt and make much more sense, especially with moon clips. The .45ACP is also a very good field round, effective against all dangerous animals in the lower 48 states except the grizzly, moose and elk.
If you want .45 Colt, S&W makes a good selection in their 25/625 line. ONLY standard SAAMI pressure loads should be used in them, but a 260-grain .45 Colt round at 925 FPS is a horse killer.
Colt Anacondas are around in .45 Colt, but usually at ridiculous prices. According to people such as John Taffin, they can handle loads stronger than SAAMI spec. Colt Models of 1873, the Peacemaker, are also available, though again, for high prices. Look for a “Cowboy” model. Prices are lower and they are just fine. Standard pressure only.
If you want a heavy gun that helps control recoil, and that can shoot more powerful loads, look to Ruger. The double-action Redhawk in .45 Colt is a great gun. Its heft makes it a pussycat to shoot, and like all Rugers it will handle heavy loads. The Super Redhawk in .454 Cassul will handle heavy .45 Colt loads, but is a heavy trail gun.
The Ruger Blackhawks are nice single-action guns in .45 Colt, and can often be found for low prices. I have one in stainless steel with the short barrel (same length as the ejector rod), and it is great for standard loads. The gun will handle heavy loads, but my hands wont. I do like to shoot black powder cartridges in it. People will argue unto death about “three-screw” versus the newer “two-screw” models. The newer ones are not so desirable to collectors, but are excellent guns and shoot just fine. You may save a few bucks if you buy one.
For an inexpensive “Cowboy look,” the Ruger Vaquero is a modified Blackhawk that will shoot heavy loads. Since arrival of the new, slimmer Vaquero, older models are around for low money. There are other manufacturers who make near copies of the Peacemaker in .45 Colt, but Standard pressure loads ONLY.
You can also find S&W and Colt models of 1917 around, usually with .45ACP cylinders. I’ve seen one with a .45 Colt cylinder. Mine has the .45ACP cylinder, and is former U.S. Army. They are clumsy in my hands, even though I have large hands, so you may not care for them unless you have hands like an orangutan.
I’m not aware of any Rugers in .45ACP, but check around anyway.
April 2, 2010, 11:12 PM
There are 45ACP revolver fanatics, but I am not one of them. Every thing I want to do with a 45 revolver is covered with the 45 LC.
I can push a 250 at 1000 fps without straining the guns, but 99.9% of my shooting is with a 250 L at 850 fps.
Easy on the revolver, easy on me. Plenty accurate.
I have an older SW 625 with a 3 inch barrel - and love it. The reason I bought it was i didn't want to buy too many various calibers - I have 45ACP, 40SW, 9mm and 380ACP already ( not to mention rifle calibers).. The 625 shoots well and with a 1/2 dozen moon clips loaded it's a lot of fun to shoot.
April 3, 2010, 12:37 AM
Since you are in Wis perhaps we could meet at a IPDA match & you could shoot a 45acp Taurus snubby. Then you could give First hand opionions about them.
I regard the Taurus as a carry gun not as a match weapon. Will it stand up to 5000+ round per year like a main IDPA gun?? I do not know. Will it stand up to a few boxes a year - Yes.
Taurus revolvers seem to have a chronic problem with double action misfires. Some work, others must be sent in for repair. My personal experience with Taurus was good. 2 other people I know, that sent in bottom feeders - was not good.
I've never seen an inaccurate Taurus revolver. Doesn't mean they do not exist, but in the small sample I have PERSONALLY seen they have all had decent accuracy.
April 3, 2010, 02:36 PM
I have a Colt SAA in 45 LC that I sent back to Colt in 2000 and had fitted with a 45 ACP cylinder. Its one of my favorite all time guns. The 45 ACP is extremely accurate and affordable. Plus, I still have the option of swapping cylinders and keeping the .45 Long Colt
Guess it all comes down to what you like. I'm big on single actions, and really like the option of both calibers.
April 3, 2010, 10:03 PM
Here's my old "pin" gun. Smith M-25, in .45 Colt. Highly modified.
I was thinking at one time of purchasing a1911. Then I had the opportunity to fire a S&W 625 (45 ACP) and fell in love with it. Purchased a 5" barrel marked Model of 1989 and really enjoy it. The 45 ACP ammo is readily available at sort of moderate prices. You get into 45 LC which is a great round but you start looking a very high priced ammo and not everyone stocks it. The only way to keep costs in line whether ACP or LC is to do your own reloading.
April 5, 2010, 10:21 AM
Slamfire nailed it. .45 Colt = Single Action Army
April 5, 2010, 07:49 PM
This is my all-time favorite cartridge. I don't do monster loads -- other cartridges fit that bill a little better. The Colt SAA or its excellent clones are hard to beat. My current favorite is a Beretta Stampede.
Rugers in general are hard to beat in the 45 class, whether you load them to the max or not. I like the Vaquero because it has more of a cowboy feel. The Blackhawk is very similar, but has an adjustable rear sight.
April 6, 2010, 01:15 AM
A compact 45 Colt revolver that I pack around once in a while is the Ruger "Montado". It's basically a short barreled 'New Vaquero' with a 'Super Blackhawk' hammer.
Whatever you get, do not get a Taurus. It will likely break, such as the fire transfer bar... os some other part, and you will have to send it in. I'm convinced that the people that LOVE their Taurus do so only because it goes bang and it hasn't broke yet.
Spend the extra $100 and just get the S&W.
There is a few experiences that I can write about here, but I have no time, so I'm keeping it simple.
Friends don't let friends buy a Taurus.
April 6, 2010, 02:26 PM
I enjoy shooting 45 revolvers, both LC and ACP, but don't consider them carry guns - too big and heavy! All I have are S&W 25 and 625s and the exception! Exception being a Ruger Blackhawk 45LC I have carried for hunting and stoked pretty strong! My limited use of a Taurus 45 LC is shooting another persons, I believe, Raging Bull [?]. Found it to be well made and no problems in function. Accuracy was very close to my S&Ws, BUT, I still prefer the Smiths - thought trigger was better for one thing. S&W also has a SUPER service department. Don't know about Taurus service.
April 6, 2010, 03:29 PM
I have only one handgun that I wish I had back, a Taurus 445 in 45 Colt. It is built on the compact frame and is/was the forerunner to the Cough, cough "it sucks"Cough, coughJudge. It is/was a great gun and I sold it to fund some crazy idea I had. It was a five shooter and if I had modified it the way I wanted to it would have been a great carry gun, I wanted to chop the barrel to 3" and add a ramp front sight with a Gold bead. With some good aftermarket grips like there are available now it would have been great. In 45 ACP it had birthing problems with the "starclips" that were available.
April 6, 2010, 09:56 PM
This thread is evil it made me handle my EAA Big bore Bounty Hunter in 45 Colt and made me wish I have picked up that Colt 1917 at the gunshow two years ago. i was going back to get it and another gentlemen was filling out the paper work for it when I got back there. It was horrible.
But a 45 ACp or 45 Colt will get the job done on almost thing in the US 2 or 4 legged, as long as you do your part.
April 13, 2010, 01:08 PM
Want a disposable gun? Buy a Stampede LOL after a couple hundred light cowboy loads my reciever is shot and cant be fixed !!!!! Way to go Beretta ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
April 13, 2010, 04:21 PM
I just picked up my first 45 ACP revolver a month ago, a clean S&W M25-2.