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kestak
April 3, 2010, 05:45 PM
Greetings,

I am cheap, but not stupid :neener:

I scrounge the brass buckets at the range and every time I pull out full rounds in different calibers, brands, handloads, etc.

If it is steel cased and everything is fine, I shoot them. I know they are almost 100% not reloads and people dropped them on the ground and they got picked up.

Most of the time, the primer has been hit and there was no discharge. Youpi! Free bullet. :)

Often I know it is a reload. I dissassemble the round and keep everything except the powder. A different primer than mines in a 45ACP or 9MM will not matter much in pressure difference with my half-strenght loads. :D

Sometimes I hit the jackpot and I get premium bullets for rifle round or magnum big bore handgun. :neener:

Soooooooooo..... Today I picked up a bunch of ammo to dissassemble I picked up in the last weeks... and surprise!!!!!!

I dissassembled a reload (it was a hard cast lead bullet) and found through the powder 4 (yes 4!!!!!) primers non-fired ready to go, no dent in it inside the case. :banghead:

*** the guy who reloaded those was thinking? Anyone knows of a new dum-dum-like procedure I never heard of?

Thank you

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Hiaboo
April 3, 2010, 06:09 PM
Man.. were those cases fired (dimpled on the primer) or just nothing? If nothing, its possible that it was made for malicious purposes.

243winxb
April 3, 2010, 06:11 PM
I dissassembled a reload (it was a hard cast lead bullet) and found through the powder 4 (yes 4!!!!!) primers non-fired ready to go, no dent in it inside the case. Is called a BOOBY TRAP- KABOOM

bullseye308
April 3, 2010, 07:01 PM
If you are saying that you found a live round and pulled the bullet and found 4 live primers in with the powder charge:what: I would let someone at the range know so they can keep an eye on folks. Someone will get seriously hurt or worse. Whomever left that lying around is one uncouth SOB:cuss: I'd like to catch them and press charges for attempted murder(premeditated). Stuff like that makes me :barf:

918v
April 3, 2010, 07:26 PM
Do not fire other people's reloads, ever! Except mine. Mine are perfectly safe. But I won't let you shoot them anyhow.

kestak
April 3, 2010, 07:42 PM
Greetings,

It was a 357 mag nickel case with the primer non dented, hard cast bullet. The primers inside were not dented. I wish I would have weighted the powder to see if it was "within" reasonable grains... But of course, it would have been almost impossible to know what powder he used.

Now that I am thinking about it, I am getting cold swets. I kinetic hammered it to dissassemble it.... :what:

Thank you

ants
April 3, 2010, 08:16 PM
I'll bet the reloader has bad habits everywhere, and accidentally dropped primers in the powder hopper or keg. Being heavier than powder, they went right through the powder measure. So the round had less powder, but several extra primers.

If that happened, the round would actually be undercharged, not a kaboom. Since they are mostly copper cup and anvil, volume for volume the primer produces much less energy than gunpowder. Other than 4 funny little holes in the target and his ammo is inaccurate, the idiot loader/shooter will never know that anything was wrong.

The alternative explanation:
He read it on the internet. Since he doesn't have any reloading manuals to check, he doesn't know right from wrong. Some people will read anything on the internet and go right to the bench to duplicate it.


The devil in me: Wants that reloader to do it with a compressed charge. Crunch down on the powder, and ignite those primers right inside the die. Now, THAT would be a bench buster!

918v
April 3, 2010, 08:20 PM
Those primers mixed in with the powder would have likely detonated it. He would have had a KB.

Clark,

If you are out there watching, load up a case full of powder and primers and see what she'll do ;)

FROGO207
April 4, 2010, 08:45 AM
WOW:what::what:I hope that it was just a one time mistake. But Analiese it and the possibility of 4 primers in a case?? What are the odds that this would happen by mistake???:banghead:What was someone thinking??

bluetopper
April 4, 2010, 09:53 AM
I don't think it's as bad as leaving a live 38 Sp or 44 Mag on the range stuffed full of Bullseye powder.

Never shoot anything that you don't know from whenst it came.

snuffy
April 4, 2010, 12:42 PM
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I dissassembled a reload (it was a hard cast lead bullet) and found through the powder 4 (yes 4!!!!!) primers non-fired ready to go, no dent in it inside the case.
Is called a BOOBY TRAP- KABOOM

Nope! I don't think they would ignite. Primers need percussion, or a lot of heat for a long time to pop.

I'm with ants on this one, even if they did ignite, they wouldn't detonate the powder. And, they wouldn't hit the target with any force because there's nothing to push them. Most likely they'd barely make it out of the barrel.

243winxb
April 4, 2010, 01:17 PM
Ah, but the powder was 15 gr of bullseye. Maybe :uhoh:

Russ in WY
April 4, 2010, 01:42 PM
I disassembled some old 222 reloads one time,and as I dumped the powder, out came a burnt folded paper match. That still remains a Total Mystery to Me. Don't think that went thru a powder measure. Can only wonder if some one was trying to play a Joke on the reloader or a kid was goofing around the load bench. I bought the gun & ammo from a Gun Store. It was yrs after i purchased it that I finally broke dwn the ammo. My 2 Russ.

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