SCCC (Students for Concealed Carry on Campus) Open Holster Protest


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guitarman531
April 4, 2010, 08:21 PM
Anyone here going to participate in this? If so, where?


I will be participating at the Boulder campus of the University of Colorado at Boulder. I know that this is a nationwide event, so I was wondering if any other THR members will be participating as well.

Here's a link for anyone who might be curious as to what I'm referring to ;)

http://concealedcampus.org/index.php

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c919
April 4, 2010, 08:45 PM
That's awesome. I just might have to join in on that.

However, I only carry IWB so I'm not so sure anyone would notice.

guitarman531
April 4, 2010, 09:27 PM
I wear IWB too, but I'll just tuck my shirt in behind it. I frequently do that if I'm wearing a jacket since I want as little in my way as possible should an actual need for it arise....

Shadow 7D
April 5, 2010, 04:44 PM
I have some old surplus European police holsters, and some old army holsters, I don't think many people understand what a IWB, or other CCW holster really is. Sad thing is, it's legal to CCW on state colleges in Alaska, just happens that the chancellors have a policy against it. They actually interviewed the UP on this and they basically said that they would escort someone off the campus and then refer them for academic / administrative procedures.

The UP also called empty holster protest "inciting" and that they may lead to a "fearful" response by students who don't understand what is going on.

bigalexe
April 6, 2010, 07:08 PM
If I had a CPL, and carried I would definitely participate, as of now I don't own a pistol. I just saw on the news out of Detroit (Local 4 WDIV, NBC station) some coverage about the event at Oakland University.

This is cool.

Bovice
April 6, 2010, 07:47 PM
While this seems like a good idea now, consider the reality. Colleges are a liberal-rich environment, and liberal almost always means anti-gun. This probably won't change, given that most degree fields are liberal. I hate it, but at the same time I will not risk facing disciplinary action/expulsion. If you are thrown out of school, it will be next to impossible to get back in ANYWHERE.

I think campus carry is a good thing, don't get me wrong. But currently that is a battle that we will not win. I'm almost done with school now and I only spend 2 hours on campus at a time, max. It's just a narrow time frame and if I really ended up stuck in the middle of a VA tech style scenario, I'd be getting the hell out of dodge. It's not unrealistic at all to think that any day may be your last. Everybody has to pay the piper sometime, and the chance of that sometime being those 2 hours is a risk I'm willing to accept.

Flame me all you want for not being an activist. I'm just trying to do my time so I can get on with my life as trouble-free as I can and do the things I'd really like to do.

Geno
April 6, 2010, 08:18 PM
I received the following notice via e-mail on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 at 11:45 AM...2 days after the events. When the seconds count, Campus INsecurity is only 2 days too late!

Community,

Campus Safety was alerted at 11:15 AM, in the area of 6 mile/Wyoming there have been several armed robberies since this past Sunday. These robberies are being committed in the parking lot of the CVS drug store and the Gas Station by three males driving an older model green mini-van.

Please be careful and watchful if you must visit this area. The 12th pct. Has extra patrols in the area and will keep us abreast of any developments.

Mr. Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx,
Dir of Campus INsecurity


Here is the link to oakland University's event:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/education/23069130/detail.html

Students Protest Gun Rights At OU
University Has Zero Tolerance Policy On Guns

POSTED: Tuesday, April 6, 2010
UPDATED: 6:41 pm EDT April 6, 2010

ROCHESTER HILLS, Mich. -- A group of students wearing empty holsters is protesting gun restrictions this week at Oakland University.

Reid Smith, of Students for Concealed Carry On Campus, said they're lobbying for the university to recognize their constitutional right to bear arms.

The university has a zero-tolerance gun policy, which applies to everyone except police officers. But, according to state law, the university can not take any legal action against someone carrying a weapon in a holster, but they can be faced with discipline from school administrators -- like being asked to leave class.

"We enforce a student code of conduct provision that bans carrying weapons on campus, and our faculty and staff recognize that for them to carry a weapon on campus would be inappropriate. We vigorously support a recent university senate resolution that opposes both current and pending state law allowing anyone with a permit to carry firearms on campus," OU President Gary Russi said in a statement.

Smith said it's all about freedom and personal protection.
"Most police chiefs will tell you, their (security) response time is two to three minutes. If someone's holding you up in the parking lot, two to three minutes isn't going to cut it," he said. "You can get your gun in a second and defend yourself."

Oakland University Police Chief Samuel Lucido said the ban does have students' safety in mind. He said the combination of young people, living in close quarters and often drinking alcohol, shouldn't be mixed with guns.
Smith maintains that the individual security of students exceeds everything else.

"If we are allowed to bring guns on campus, we'll be able to defend ourselves," he said.

Vice President for Student Affairs Mary Beth Snyder sent an e-mail last Thursday to notify and prepare the campus community of the demonstrations.

"These activities are not unique to our university but are part of larger efforts being orchestrated regionally and across the country to gain support of various concealed weapon initiatives," Snyder wrote in the e-mail. "The Oakland University Police Department will be monitoring this situation very closely to maintain a safe and non-threatening campus environment. If need be, officers will curtail any disruptions to the learning environment or university business."

The university also said a simulated crisis training exercise is scheduled to take place on the campus Friday.

"Funded by a federal grant we were very fortunate to receive, this extensive, multi-agency simulation will be an invaluable means of preparing the university and partner organizations to effectively respond to emergency or crisis situations," Russi said. "Campus safety is an absolutely top-tier priority at Oakland University, and this exercise will go a long way toward reinforcing and enhancing our commitment to it."

Nushif
April 6, 2010, 10:53 PM
I'd gladly participate at Oregon State ... but I sure as hell don't want to be the only one, and because our local head honcho doesn't like liberals (even the gun toting kind, like myself) I haven't received word.

Anyone know whether we're doing it here?

archigos
April 6, 2010, 11:47 PM
I did this when I was in college. Its a great conversation starter.
Unfortunately, I didn't gain much ground with the administration at my school. Interestingly enough, they had a shooter on campus today and locked down the campus, prohibiting students from leaving classrooms for hours. (Nobody was hurt on campus afaik, shooter fled from an armed robbery & shooting just off campus onto the school property.)

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