Howard Dean for President?
answerguy
January 21, 2003, 02:28 PM
Would he be a good choice from the Democrat side? Did anyone hear an inteview of him recently where he referred to the press as making 'catty' remarks. Wouldn't that be little different from Trent Lott's faux pas at Thurmond's birthday party? 'Catty' of course being an anti-female comment.
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MitchSchaft
January 21, 2003, 02:30 PM
Would he be a good choice from the Democrat side?
You're kidding, right? :uhoh:
J Miller
January 21, 2003, 02:36 PM
Howard Dean for President?
Who's Howard Dean?
My old cat would make a better president than any body the Democraps could offer.
answerguy
January 21, 2003, 02:39 PM
Is it better to have one strongly pro gun candidate and one strongly anti gun candidate or one strongly pro gun candidate and one neutral to moderate gun candidate?
http://www.e-thepeople.org/a-national/article/13560/view
"If you say "gun control" in Vermont or Tennessee, or Colorado, people think you want to take away their hunting rifle. If you say "gun control" New York or L.A., people are happy to see Uzi's or illegal handguns taken off the streets. I think Vermont ought to be able to have a different set of laws than California. Let's keep and enforce the federal gun laws we have, close the gun show loophole using Insta-check, and then let the states decide for themselves what if any gun control laws they want. We need to get guns off the national radar screen if Democrats are ever going to win again in the South and the West, and if we can't win in the South and the West, we can't win national elections. In 2000, guns cost us at least West Virginia, Tennessee, and Montana, and with them the Presidency of the United States. Just as we resist attempts by President Bush to dictate to the states how we run our school systems and what kind of welfare programs to have, we need to resist attempts to tell states how to deal with guns beyond existing Federal law"
mrsMTN
January 21, 2003, 02:42 PM
For what it's worth, he respected the 2nd amendment as well as the Vermont constitution while he was governor of VT. No threat to gun rights.
His problem is that he's too liberal for hard line Republicans, and too conservative for liberal democrats.
MitchSchaft
January 21, 2003, 02:46 PM
Let's keep and enforce the federal gun laws we have, close the gun show loophole using Insta-check
Sorry, he just lost my vote.
mso
January 21, 2003, 02:50 PM
Duh, there IS gonna be a Democrat running for prez... of all I've heard scrambling to be the one, he's the "best" so far.
J Miller
January 21, 2003, 02:57 PM
Let's see, voting for the "BEST" Democrat, ~OR~ voting for the "WORST" Republican.
I wonder which would be the "LESSER" of the two evils?
To be honest, there is little choice. As good as Howard Dean may be, he is still a Democrat, and will be controled by the party.
And as we all know the Democrat party platform is geared to tax us to death, while disarming us. Then turning the United States over to the UN.
Sory if I offend anyone, but I've been watching this for a very long time.
I don't like any of the choices I have seen lately.
mrsMTN
January 21, 2003, 03:12 PM
First, I am not a Democrat. But I have lived in VT during the time that Dean was governor. A suggestion: don't read about him; listen to him speak for himself.
MitchSchaft
January 21, 2003, 03:33 PM
Let's keep and enforce the federal gun laws we have, close the gun show loophole using Insta-check
listen to him speak for himself
Done and no thanks again :neener:
80fl
January 21, 2003, 06:42 PM
His problem is that he's too liberal for hard line Republicans, and too conservative for liberal democrats.
If you consider a Socialist too conservative, well allrighty then.
Chainsaw
January 21, 2003, 08:36 PM
answer guy, The text of your quoted paragraph in itself is the problem here.
If by abandoning gun control in certain states in order to win elections is a strategy rather than a core belief, it goes to show the moral bancruptcy of the party. I can't say the other party is a lot better though.
Do you want to vote for Big Government or Big Government Lite?
Frankly I am extremely tired of these McGoverniks lying to me especially the Democratic Party. Why don't they just come out and say what they actually stand for? Whether you agree or not is a moot point. 40 years of control and one is lead to believe that the only reason their platform has failed is we didn't spend enough money on it. Lets Get Real.
BSJ
February 5, 2003, 09:38 PM
Another Dean quote:
"Show me a gun law that will work and I'll sign it."
Said on the Canadian TV talk show 'The Editors.'
geegee
February 5, 2003, 09:55 PM
Over the years, there have been a number of Demo's who seemed to be different than their mainstream bretheren, i.e. they seemed ok with the 2nd A, they also were pro-life. Once a Democrat enters the national spotlight, he's taken aside and told "how things are run around here", or in other words, if you want the support of the DNC ($$$$$), you will be for gun control and abortion. Period, end of story. Those are two non-negotiable planks for the Democrats. geegee
Coot
February 6, 2003, 04:31 AM
As a Vermonter I shudder to think of Howie doing to the nation what he's done to this state...civil unions (i.e., gay marraiges) is just the tip of the iceberg.
Coronach
February 6, 2003, 10:41 AM
Another one that is not DIRECTLY gun related, but is political/civil-liberty/gun-control related. Moved.
Mike
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