Compact, lightweight SA/DA 9mm?


April 5, 2010, 02:43 PM
Can anyone recommend a small, lightweight 9mm that is both DA and SA? I'm talking about something similar to a Bersa Thunder 9 Ultra Compact or CZ RAMI, but lighter in weight than either.
Also prefer an exposed (i.e. "usable") hammer.

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April 5, 2010, 02:55 PM
You can't go wrong with an S&W 3913. It is compact (3.5" barrel) making it easily concealable and it is an excellent shooter. I bought one last year and carry as my everyday CCW. It has also proven to be highly reliable. I have shot various manufacturers rounds and have never had a FTE or FTF. I think you will find that many people on this forum will agree although many others will offer their favorites as well.

April 5, 2010, 03:00 PM
Check out the Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro. Not heavy at all and a good pistol. Beware of the Taurus bashers. I had no problems at all with the one I had, just traded it for a shotgun.

bdb benzino
April 5, 2010, 03:08 PM
S&W 908 or the cousin the 3913

Thaddeus Jones
April 5, 2010, 03:24 PM
Another vote for the 3913. Doesn't get any better than that in a light weight, single stack, concealeable 9mm. TJ

April 5, 2010, 04:22 PM
Seems like a CZ RAMI P would fill the bill. The polymer frame makes it lighter than the CZ RAMI. There is also the beretta px4 subcompact.

April 5, 2010, 04:50 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
I need to modify my original post to also specify that I like having an exposed (i.e. "usable") hammer. It's nice to be able to cock a hammer back for an accurate first shot and a groundhog or beaver when out on the farm. I can never get off a decent enough shot in DA in order to take out a varmint, though DA on the first shot will work just fine for me in a self-defense situation.

The Lone Haranguer
April 5, 2010, 06:59 PM
3913s typically have "bobbed" hammers that sit flush with the slide. You can however retrofit a 59XX hammer. They are also larger (but more slender) than the Bersa or RAMI.

April 5, 2010, 07:01 PM
I would suggest looking at the 3953 or 3954... but I can't remember if there is an exposed hammer on this model or not. I know it's DAO, but the trigger pull is shorter than the 3913 and may be a bit lighter too...? Check them out. Good luck finding a good 9...
Another option to consider would be the Springfield XD/XDm line. I know there's no exposed hammer on this gun, BUT the trigger pull is very much akin to the SA trigger on your typical DA/SA semiauto, which would still afford you the light and precise accuracy you're looking for. They're also relatively light guns and you could use it as your CCW as well.

April 5, 2010, 09:00 PM
The Bersa Thunder 9 UC is actually quite a large pistol through the width. Have had the opportunity to check out the cZ P01? It has an aluminum frame, is quite narrow and the ergonomics are very good.

The Tomcat
April 5, 2010, 10:32 PM
Kel-Tec PF-9 is what I carry right now and I love it. Small, light and thin. IWB in a Kholster I forget I'm carrying it.

April 6, 2010, 06:46 PM
The thing that irritates me about the sub compact nines right now is that almost all of them are poymer, and almost all of them are DAO. I bought a CZ RAMI which is a nice gun but i am sending it in for repairs after 200 rounds. Honestly i would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation S&W. Check out the 3913 or the 639/539/39-2. Those arent exactly small guns but they are awesome and if your a big guy you should have no prob concealing them as they are single stacks.

David E
April 6, 2010, 06:51 PM
A spring kit does wonders for the action of the 3913/14

While the stock hammer IS flush to the slide, the top of it is serrated. You can begin the trigger pull and when the hammer is about 1/2 out, cock it the rest of the way.

Much easier and quicker to do than it may sound like.

April 6, 2010, 08:50 PM
That's interesting, David E.. I hadn't thought of that. That may well work for me when out on the farm.

April 7, 2010, 12:13 AM
USP Compact in 9mm is a little large
so i'd go with a STI GP5, a little radical i know but it's a nice guin for about $650

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