[N3rday]

Which, in your opinion, is the most reliable?

[N3rday]

Sorry guys, forgot the Kahrs!

DO'H!

[10mmshooter]

I voted Glock. But, only because I feel that they are to the gun world...what the Honda is to automobiles. You can count on them to work, but they aren't flashy, nor stylish, nor feature packed, nor expensive, nor accurate, nor very comfortable in the hands of most shooters. Also, you can not do much to personalize your Glock to suit your own tastes.
IMO...If you want a reliable pistol that also offers the other features mentioned...look to a higher end 1911.

[cool45auto]

First vote for Beretta!

[N3rday]

NOTE:
Feel free to mark 'Other' and post what it is.

I forgot to mention the Kahr line and I'm sure that I've forgotten many other good autoloaders so let me know!

[WonderNine]

I think Glock will win this because there are more Glock owners.

[10-Ring]

Surprise, surprise, I voted HK USP :cool: :D

[David4516]

Makarov.

Thosands of rounds, no failures or jams of any kind. By far the most dependable auto I've ever shot...

[BHPshooter]

I voted for (*gasp!*) the Browning Hi Power.

Really, I bet all of you are shocked. Really.

Right now the Glock is leading with 6 votes, with the BHP right behind with 5 votes.

Wes

[N3rday]

I can't believe I forgot the Makarovs. FORK!

Voting results so far are interesting :)

I feel bad for the 1911s, no votes yet...

[tbeb]

Glock Model 17 and full-size Beretta(like the Model 92FS).

[gulogulo1970]

Thousands of rounds though Glock 17, 22, 23, 27. I've never had a round not go off. Can't say that for any of the other auto pistols I've owned.

[chaim]

I haven't owned or had significant experience with everything on your list, but of what I (or a good friend) has owned I'd say the Ruger P-series plus the Bersa Thunder in .380 which isn't on your list. My best friend's Kahr is pretty close, but in the few thousand rounds he's put through it he has had one or two hiccups- my Bersa has not had one, my Ruger P89 I once had never had a hiccup and I can't remember one in the Ruger P90 another friend used to own. All my other autos and those of my friends has had at least one hiccup (though an online friend has a S&W 910 that I don't think has ever given him one malfunction of any kind, but since he is an online friend on the other side of the continent I have no first hand experience with his gun).

[VG]

Interesting. The poll includes

All Glocks
One common and one rare CZ
The very popular Beretta - and a clone
SIGs popular .45 - and the compact ,45, but no 9mm's


Guess what your result will be?

Do you work for the Democrats? Practicing?

[Poohgyrr]

My Glocks have been great, with factory ammo. Two of my Glock .40's have choked on a batch of handloads that run fine in my Hi Powers. The Hi Powers have run well on everything I've fed them. I voted Hi Power. :)

[Mr Jody Hudson]

I voted for Glock but the real winner is Makarov! There is nothing that compares to a Makarov! We've sold nearly a thousand in our local gun shop and not one failure of any kind attributable to the gun!

[JohnMc]

Makarov.
JohnMc

[Dave Markowitz]

MAKAROV.

[Kentucky Rifle]

..but the truth is that I've had good luck with all my autos. A couple of them needed to go back for an adjustment though. When my NAA Guardian was new, I'd pull the slide back to chamber a round and it would slam into the feed ramp and stop without going on in. NAA repaired that flaw in a couple of weeks and it's been reliable ever since. And my NIB Colt Mustang Pocketlite would drop it's mag when I pulled the slide back to chamber a round. (No, I wasn't hitting the slide release button.) Colt repaired that really quickly. It's now one of my favorite firearms. If Colt started making them agan, I'd buy another just to "put back".

KR

[N3rday]

By the way, when i put CZ 75-97 i meant ALL the models from 75 to 97

Also, sig p220-245 means ALL the models in between 220 and 245, what I'm saying is the Sig line in general, just like Glocks are the glock series, in general

It's hard to believe that people cant figure out that "-" means THROUGH

Jesus, people love Makarovs! I had never heard of them until recently. I even looked for their website, but found nothing.

[Sean Smith]

The real answer? Beats me. I've had great reliability from stock and custom Colts, several Glocks, a CZ-75B, a SigSauer P228 and a Sig P210.

Had a Kimber that was pretty good, but too fussy about what brands of ammo it liked to put in the same class.

[HSMITH]

As brands go it will be Glock first, even with the M21 in the lineup. Sigs should probably roll in second, and then it really is up in the air with so many quality guns on the market.

In all these years I don't ever remember hearing of a Ruger P-series that was broken or jamming though now that I put some thought in it. There are not a lot of them in the hands of high volume shooters but you would think someone would complain.

[David4516]

"Jesus, people love Makarovs! I had never heard of them until recently. I even looked for their website, but found nothing."

www.makarov.com


The Makarov is a millitary design, the Russians used it as their offical side arm for 50 years. Now they are surplus and sell here in the USA for $150 or so (some are worth alot more depending on where and when they were made). It is, in my humble opinion, worth far more. I have heard it said that the 'Mak' is "5 times the gun for 1/5 the price".

It is very solid and reliable, compact (some even call it a pocket pistol or mouse gun, but I wouldn't go that far), and thin (single stack). These factors, combined with the fact that they are so darn cheap, are why I carry one...

The only real drawback of the Makarov is the caliber. "9mm Makarov" (aka 9X18 Makarov) is somewhere between .380 ACP and 9mm Luger, but leans more toward the .380 side. Many think it's too weak for carry, but then again most of those folks have not offered to let me shoot them with one either...

[CZ52GUY]

...although I've only had two malf's with only one of my Glocks out of over 1000 rounds with both, my CZ-75 has been stone cold reliable after two partial battery insertions (solved by pulling slide back and letting fly) and both occurring within the first 200 rounds.

Glocks probably have the stronger rep', but they will have some failures from time to time...just visit Glocktalk.com (although for some, every Glock malf' in history has been the result of human error);).

My Mak's have been very solid, but didn't like Silver Bear JHP, AT ALL.

MY P95DC doesn't like White Box...but is very reliable (and accurate) with most anything else.

My BDA-380 hated Blazer but hasn't choked on anything with real brass.

My SigPro has eaten everything I've fed it but doesn't have enough rounds through it to sway my vote just yet.

Best wishes,

CZ52'

[Newton]

MAKAROV - It's a no brainer.

[N3rday]

Well, of course i forget the brand everyone votes for...frickin Makarov

They're good pistols, and I would consider them if only they were in 9x19.
they do kinda have that mouse gun look to them, but they are so highly recommended i would overlook that

[denfoote]

Makarov!!!

Hey, I own more of them than anything else!! :D

[BamBam-31]

Okay, I have a Springfield, Glock, Kahr, Sig, Ruger 22/45, BHP, and a Colt Diamondback. Had a USP.

Springfield jammed once, USP jammed about 4 times (bad batch of reloads, I'm pretty certain), 22/45 has occasional failures (cheapie .22 plinking ammo combined with neglect). That's it.

I'd say most modern handguns, if properly cared for, are very, very reliable.

If I had to pick one, it'd be my Glock 19. First gun I ever owned, hasn't failed me yet.

[Mal H]

Ok, I added Makarov to the list along with a vote for everyone who mentioned it here and reduced the Other category by the same amount since they can't vote again. Might not be accurate, but close enough.

[Correia]

None of the above.

Look, all guns jam. Every single brand out there has had a lemon or a bad one. Out of spec ammo, dirt, parts breakage. It happens to everybody.

All of us have our personal favorites that we own that have never had a problem. However we alone are a statistically insignificant sample. I've got guns that have never jammed, but I'm assuming that they will someday. :)

I've been an safety officer during many IDPA and 3 gun matches. I've got to see just about every kind of gun you can think of malfunction. Glocks, 1911s, Sigs, Kahrs, CZs, HKs, whatever. I've seen Makarovs go down with weak magazines. I watched a Sig 226 lock up tighter than a vise. I saw a Les Baer's extractor break into two pieces. I've seen the front sight fly off a Springfield. I've seen Glocks have mystery stove pipes with good factory ammo. Anything can jam.

Not a pistol, but I've crashed with an AK magazine into a barricade so hard that the rounds half way up the mag stuck into place, and it is possibly the most reliable gun ever designed. I had the bolt on a $1,500 seperate into two pieces during a match once. Anything, and I mean anything can break.

Polls like this are fun. But for everyone of us who says my X has never malfunctioned, you can find another guy who thinks X is a pile of crap. Pick a good brand and test the heck out of your personal speciman.

If it hasn't malfunctioned, then you haven't shot it enough yet. :D

[MaterDei]

Only based on personal experience. I would not categorize the whole 1911 class of guns as the most reliable though. However, of all the weapons that I personally have owned (to include pump action shotguns), the only one that has been 100% reliable has been my Kimber.

If I were forced to choose a brand based on reputation alone I would have to pick the Glock.

[David4516]

"They're good pistols, and I would consider them if only they were in 9x19."

I thought the question was "Whats more reliable", not "what shoots a bigger bullet"...

[Black Snowman]

What kind of reliable?
Harsh conditions and abuse:
My vote goes Glock.
Longevity:
My vote goes to HK
Operational for a well maintained firearm:
It's a toss up between just about any quality firearm.

[Ala Dan]

NO SUSPRISE HERE!

SIG-SAUER .45 caliber P220A


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

I have to go with the BHP. Never a problem. I also have to note that I graduated to .45 acp in a 1911 clone and a glock with insignificant issues. The BHP is not used much now, but when I did use it, it would eat any ammo with no complaints.

:)

[N3rday]

THX for changing the poll to include Makarovs, I didn't know moderators could do that

tried to modify it myself, but it wouldn't let me change it

Im surprised Ruger got as many votes as it did!

[gbelleh]

Any gun can fail, but I voted HK USP based on my personal experience (yours may vary). None of my USPs have ever jammed.

[silent one]

I PERSONALLY THINK MOST FIREARMS ARE GOOD, AS LONG AS THEY ARE PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND SHOT ENOUGH TO GIVE A TRULY APPROPRIATE
OPINION AS TO RELIABILITY, ACCURACY,AND DURABILITY.
I SHOOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT CALIBER HAND GUNS, BUT MY ALL TIME FAVORITE IS THE FULL SIZE 1911. I OWN BOTH COLT AND KIMBER. THE COLT IS EXCELLANT, BUT THE KIMBER IS A TACK DRIVER. I USE ONLY 230GR
FMJ AMMO IN ALL OF THEM,(MOSTLY SELLIER &BELLOT AND FEDERAL AMERICAN EAGLE). I ALSO USE WILSON COMBAT & CHIP MC CORMICK MAGS
THEY PERFORM SUPERBLY, AND NEVER CAUSE MALS.
WELL, I GUESS BY NOW YOU KNOW WHICH HAND GUN GETS MY VOTE, THE
OLD FAITHFUL SLAB SIDE. I GUESS IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO WHAT YOUR COMFORTABLE WITH.

THANKS, AND '' BE SAFE''


SILENT ONE

[Indigo22]

What? You didn't list the Ruger SBH ...? Mine never had a hiccup. Autoloader?, ... oh ok, I voted for the 1911's. Done up right and good ammo mine always pop's, shucks, and is ready for more. Besides that its slim, and easy to pack.

[VG]

By the way, when i put CZ 75-97 i meant ALL the models from 75 to 97

Also, sig p220-245 means ALL the models in between 220 and 245, what I'm saying is the Sig line in general, just like Glocks are the glock series, in general

It's hard to believe that people cant figure out that "-" means THROUGH

If you'd put Glock 17-36 (or whatever their family #'s are) then it would have been consistent and us chowderheads would have been able to figure it out.

You included the Beretta 92, and a clone. So do the various CZ clones count as well?

You're a Democratic pollster, I can tell, I live among them.....

[Mal H]

VG - I think you're worrying too much about this poll. :D

[hansolo]

A few posts back, Chaim mentioned ..."A friend who says he's never had a malfunction with his S&W 910s...": that would be me! I've had it for 11 months and I have fired approx. 5-6000 rounds so far; since the first magazine, I have experienced ZERO malfunctions.

I love my CZ 75B and plan on adding many more autoloaders(1911's, BHP.,
Beretta vertec, Compact CZ, etc.), but I can only report on what I have experienced: the 910s has been as reliable as my S&W revolver.

[N3rday]

Well I figured since Glock only makes 1 line of pistols, there was no point in listing individual models. models 17-36 is ALL that glock makes. Anyway...

Whatever, I am not familiar with the Rugers, I just put them on the list since they are inexpensive, built well, and don't get the respect they deserve to.

[Poohgyrr]

As Correia said "probably haven't shot it enough yet :)"... And I finally noticed that the Smith auto's aren't listed :( FWIW, I've found the Smith 9X19's to be as reliable as a rock. I kinda felt this needed to be said, they are fine autos. (Still prefer my Hi power though ;)... )

[71Commander]

My 1911 Colt Commander will feed any type pill without a hitch, but my 3-1/2" Springfield 1911 is having some problems jaming on the 5th or 6th round. Could be the mag or just to new. Less than 200 rounds through it.

Both 1911's with different level's of dependabilities. Best and worst.;) :mad:

[lee n. field]

I can't speak of the Glocks, SIGs, etc.

Of those that I have or have available, and have shot a meaningful ammount, the Makarov has been the most troublefree. The only problems I've had have been with Silver Bear 9x18 ammo, a known problem.

My Ruger had some teething problems, but that's been about a thousand troublefree rounds ago, and I trust it now. My CZ-100 had some malfing issues that it _may_ be past.

[Rob96]

I voted Ruger. I did have a Glock malfunction on me once. But I never had a Ruger P-Series fail.

[Frenchy]

I'm glad this is a personal opinion poll, rather than a gun rag or manufacturer opinion.
I've owned at one time or another a good many of the guns listed, and have had no reliability problems with any of them.
I've had most of my experiences with the Smith & Wesson 9mm. autos (4), and have found them to be totally dependable. My present carry (S&W 669), can and does digest anything I've run through it, with no breakages of any kind. This is a duty gun, so it has to perform.

[N3rday]

Can you replace grips on the Rugers? I know they are synthetic, but when I checked i didn't see any screws, looked like they were glued on or something.

I didn't have my contacts in, so I could be (and probably am) wrong

[CAhuenga]

P7M8 - total reliability through thousands of rounds.

Also, S&W 5906 - (1) failure, which I attribute to a bad reload, though several thousand rounds.

[lee n. field]

Can you replace grips on the Rugers? I know they are synthetic, but when I checked i didn't see any screws, looked like they were glued on or something.

If you don't see screws, it's probably a polymer frame Ruger, in which case no.

[N3rday]

Wow...so I have forgotten Kel-Tec and Smith + Wesson, which to me implies revolver, but i guess they make autos.

Damn I'm a n00b

[makarov1]

Makarov.

[GSB]

I hate to admit it, because I'd rather my Sig P220 could lay claim to the title, but that has had 1 FTF vs my USP's 0 FTFs. My Beretta Elite has had 1, my Sig P232 has had 1, and my Kimber Ultra Carry has had innumerable, at least prior to getting a Wilson mag for it, after which it has had only 1. The one Glock 17 I have had experience with FTF'd pretty regularly, which just goes to show that any maker can produce a lemon.

[N3rday]

It FDF'd regularly even when maintained? thats weird...

Do you happen to know whats wrong with it?

[WilsonCQB]

My vote was for Glock because I have experienced very few malfunctions with my various Glocks.
Come to think of it however, I have yet to have a single malfunction with either of my 2 Wilson Protectors (1911's). I had some failures to extract from the polymer KZ 45 line, but not with the Stainless or blued Protectors I have. In fact the blued Protector ('96-'97 vintage) I have about 2,500 rounds thru it and have had exactly ZERO malfunctions with it. The stainless protector is newer, but same results on the malfunction scale...0.

[goon]

I would say that history has proven it to be the 1911.
I don't own one, and I am not a 1911-ophile.
My personal choices are SIG and CZ.

[Newton]

I'm surprised at the way this is going.

I have yet to handle a Glock that I couldn't induce a jam in, I have found them to be very prone to limp wristing especially with lower powered range ammo.

The only gun I have ever fired that would not jam, no way, no how, was a Makarov.