[cbjessee@NH]

Is American Ammunition, Inc. ammo good? Looking at a case price for 40S&W 180g at about $135.

BRET

[Detritus]

not what you asked but....

I won't by anything from them b/c they keep spamming my in-box!!

basic rule with me if a company sends me more than one unsolicited ad a week they do NOT get my money, doubly so if the ad-copy acts as if i'm braindead.

[MonkeyMan]

If you're not a reloader then it's about as good as any, goes bang every time. The brass is total crap. I'll buy Wolf before I'll buy A-MERC.

[Prodigalshooter]

I think if you do a search here, you'll find a lot of people had problems with that stuff. I recall quite a few complaints about squib loads etc. One of my local sporting goods stores sold it for awhile, then did a recall due to this problem, now they don't sell anymore. Be careful.

[Sean Smith]

Junk.

Not to be confused with Federal American Eagle, which is excellent.

[Snowdog]

Five years ago, their 9mm ammunition caused me to send my K9 back to the factory due to multiple failures to feed (cartridge would wedge tightly 3/4 in the chamber). Got the K9 back with a note asking me not to use American Ammunition in their product anymore, as that ammunition isn't resized during the reloading process. Sure enough, it was the ammunition... not a single problem since.

For that reason, I won't use them. If I want cheap ammo, it's S&B or PMC.

[treeprof]

Run, don't walk, away.

[Silent Bob]

American Ammunition scares me! Some shots will sound louder than others... extremely inconsistent. Bullets are prone to key-holing. The bullets themselves are not jacketed, merely copper-coated lead. Junk, junk, and triple junk!!!

[Joe Mamma]

I assume you mean the stuff in the clear plastic blister packs? A fired round seized up one of my Sigs to the point where it almost had to be sent back to the factory for repair. The slide could not be pulled back to extract the fired case. After much banging, it finally cycled back and extracted the case. I'll never use the stuff again.

Joe Mamma

[foghornl]

American Ammo (Miami, FL) is the ONLY brand that would not function in my KP-90 Ruger (.45ACP).

Not to be confused with American Eagle Brand by Federal...good stuff

Buddy gave me part of a box of A-AMerc .38 spl...very inaccurate in his Mdl 10 Smith. Tried some in my cheapy RG-38 subby....all over the paper, and keyholes, too. Tried a cylinder full in my .357Vaquero, same result.

When we looked closely at a couple of rounds, we noticed the crimp looked, well...odd. pulled 5 apart, and "miked" them .353" diameter...too small for even 9mm Parabellum.

If you want good ammo at a reasonable price, try PMC (red & white box), Sellier & Bellot (couple of different color schemes) or Mag-tech. I have had good results with those 3 brands in .38/.357/.45ACP. Shooting buddy likes Mag-tech in his .45Colt caliber Vaquero.

[bountyhunter]

Check out Precision Ammo. I'm shooting their 180gr .40SW FMJ and it's pretty good. Only cost $140/case including shipping. Amazing price.

[lycanthrope]

A-Merc will bulge almost 80% whenI seat bullets in .45 acp. No matter how much bell I use.

The ONLY headstamp I won't use.

[Soap]

On a 1 to 10 scale, A-Merc is -5.

[repsychler]

Greatest stuff in the world. Buy 10 truckloads.*



*NOTE: Poster is a dirty rotten liar who owns nearly-worthless AAMI stock. :evil:

[Valkman]

Try Proload at www.proload.com - I just ordered 500 Winchester Ranger and talked to the owner, "Crazy John" for a while on the phone. Seems like a great guy and they have some "packages" to chose from.

[Justin]

A-Merc is garbage. Trust me, you're better off spending a little more money for decent ammo like S&B or Winchester.

The one and only time I shot A-Merc, it was amazing inconsistent, and generally inaccurate.

So, no, American Ammunition is pretty much trash through and through.

[tcdrennen]

Turners RECALLED all their American Ammo last spring after several reports of both squib loads and DOUBLE LOADED rounds.

DO NOT USE!

[cbjessee@NH]

Spared a cruel fate for a $25 savings.

Thanks all!

BRET

[Pumpkinheaver]

I bought a box to try as it was cheap, never again. Most of the time when I would chamber a round the bullet would be pushed back into the case. I solved this by crimping them all with a lee factory crimp die but I don't wanna do that all the time or I wouldn't have bought factory ammo in the first place!

[Rinspeed]

It seems to me that I remember reading about American Ammo blowing up at least two or three pistols. One of them was at either Gunsite or Thunder Ranch if I recall. I would stay far away from it.

Rinspeed

[OldMosquito]

:fire: AMERICAN AMMUNITION OF MIAMI FLORIDA is DIRTY, MILD LOAD, MARGINAL ACCURACY IN GLOCK.
NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS CCI BLAZER HARDBALL

[HSMITH]

You guys need to be reloading. $140 per K for 40 with 180 FMJ is insane!!!!!! I load that for less than $75 EASY!!!!!! Not counting two hours of my time but still.....

Think about how you would shoot and how much you would shoot if you had a basically unlimited supply of ammo and the cost was less than half of what you pay now. Think about what your shooting goals are now and where you want to get.

Back to the original topic. AMERC is garbage and that is only because this is a family channel, I would like to tell you what it actually is but should not.

[Bahadur]

I still have about a case and a half left of A-MERC. As much as I like to shoot it all off, I won't. Safer for me and safer for my guns.

Say, does anyone have any idea how I should dispose these cartridges?

[OldMosquito]

;) If you are certain you can't stand a given load of ammo, even factory, and you reload, then pulling the bullet, dumping the powder, and seating a bullet of your liking over fresh new powder of your preference is then possible. :) You will have sucessfully recycled the brass, the most expensive part of your load, since as you seat the new bullet, you will also provide enough new crimp to hold it together.
Maybe this will help.

As I say, i've had only a couple of the ten boxes I bought used up. I've had failure to feed, due to light load in the ammo, and remembering that Glock uses really stout springs to get the job done. If you don't reload, try WOLF or CCI BLAZER to cut your costs. I and several other Glock users have had great luck with the power and accuracy of them, in comparison to the American Ammunition from Miami, Fla.

[Bahadur]

I don't even trust the components. Besides, I'm too lazy to reload in the first place, so...

I bought them long before I discovered ammoman.com. Now I buy most of my ammo from the latter (usually Federal American Eagle). I might give CCI Blazer a try through Natchesz.

[natedog]

It made my Colt Officers Model (with that revolver I consider 3" to be a bad group) pattern like a shotgun at 15 yards.

[Jake 98c/11b]

It is absolutely craptastic. Give it to all the people you don't like.

[Bahadur]

It is absolutely craptastic. Give it to all the people you don't like.I don't think that I know people whom I dislike that much. Besides, people who are that way likely would not take (bad) ammunition from me!

So, does anyone have any other advice on what I should do with the leftover AMERC ammo?

BTW, did anyone notice that AMERC now has some sort of a federal government contract to make ammo?

Amazing!

[RightIsRight]

I just bought 10 boxes of their .38 spec.

Is there a possibility of them damaging my Mod. 66 .357? Or are they just dirty and inaccurate?

[Johnny Guest]

So, does anyone have any other advice on what I should do with the leftover AMERC ammo? About all I can suggest is to use it for plinking and shooting at informal ranges, where you're NOT apt to find the brass to recover. One thing about it, you have a high probability of being able to practice your stoppage drills. I surely wouldn't take it to a match - -
1. It is not accurate enough to allow for uniform hits. You wouldn't be able to tell if you were shooting poorly, or if the ammo was at fault. (OTOH, if you're allowed alibis . . . ;))
2. Other competitors will point and snicker at you.
3. The brass picker-uppers will not thank you for the "donation" of the cases you leave on the range.
:D

cbjessee@NH, looks as if you have your answer, in detail. :D I am an old-line brass scrounger, especially for .45 ACP, and even I won't try to reload their cases.

RightIsRight, before reading this thread, I've never heard of this brand of ammo actually causing damage to a firearm. If I'd spent the money on 500 rounds, I think I'd do a search on the net to see if there's any documentation about this damage, or if it's just a rumor. Any way you can take it back to where you bought it for refund, on the basis of them having sold you a hazardous product?


Best,
Johnny

[RWK]

No - absolute junk. However, do not confuse it with Federal American Eagle (which is excellent quality target/plinking fodder).

[Bahadur]

About all I can suggest is to use it for plinking and shooting at informal ranges, where you're NOT apt to find the brass to recover.And risk damaging mah guns? Heck no!

I am convinced that AMERC ammo was responsible for damage to my FN High Power (the extractor blew off). At a minimum, it terribly leaded the barrels of several of my pistols.

I guess I'll take all the AMERC ammo (about 1,000 rounds I think) to a local gun range that offers to dispose of old ammo.

[berto]

Some one warned me the stuff sucked,but I tried anyway.......it sucked.:uhoh:

[OldMosquito]

:cool: JOHNNY, next time in town, I'll bring the rest of the A-Merc .45 ACP with me and we might slip out to the range, if no one is screaming for us. I just want to say, I might have to put this stuff into a time capsule at the bottom of the MARIANA TRENCH, or shoot it single shot in the TC. :)
If you can get 7 more people to come, we will each only have one box of 50 to burn on the line. :D

Is it time for me to BBQ again?

[ri43210]

I'm glad you asked. A friend and I ordered 2000 rounds of 45 ACP from American, just to use as practice ammo. We figured “what could it hurt”. We experienced a 30% FTF. We called American and they agreed to take it back and send another "hand-picked" batch. After several calls we “finally” received the second batch of ammo. We noticed right off that there was so much smoke every time we fired that it was like we were using black powder. When I cleaned my barrel at the end of the day, I couldn't get the junk out of the barrels of my two Kimbers. I soaked the barrels in everything imaginable and cleaned and brushed for a week. It appeared the residue was a combination of the lead and whatever coating was on the bullet. Another friend of mine tried it out on an old Colt and experienced the exact same fouling problem. He also spent a week trying to clean his barrel. It goes without saying that I will never again attempt to ruin a barrel with this junk...not even for target practice. Pay just a little more and buy ammo that is consistent and reliable.

[GLOCK19XDSC]

Put it in a SHTF bucket, seal it, and bury it in case...well...SHTF. :D ISTR reading that one of the training companies (I don't recall which, tho') disallows use of American Ammo because it is copper-washed and not jacketed. Supposedly it allows lead build-up. Not good for GLOCKs, anyway. FWIW

[Luchtaine]

Yeah its certainly dirty. Though I don't think I had any wild loads, my m1 carbine is still black from that stuff. I had a few of the cases split when fired though.

[Brad Johnson]

The local range gave it a chance a couple of years ago. Two days after it hit the shelf they packed it up and sent it back. Squibs, overcharges, and consistent failures to feed and fire - usually at the rate of several per box.

Don't use it. Spend an extra four or five bucks a case and get some Wolf, WWB, or Blazer to plink with.

Brad

[MoeMentum]

I tried a few boxes of 9mm, It seemed ok,, but a friend tried to reload the empty cases, and they wouldn't even fit in the resizing die. So, now I stay away from the stuff.

[armoredman]

I found two A-Merc spent cases in the 9mm brass I got - both have off center flash holes, and are obvious (censored). I put one aside to remind me of what NOT to use in my CZ!

[MDG1976]

Don't do it! Their brass won't extract from my S&W J-frame and it's very inaccurate.

[larry starling]

cheap crap ammo! Had numerous problems with it....avoid :eek:

[OldMosquito]

I am REALLY SORRY to have to say that the A-MERC/AMERICAN AMMUNITION for pistols is truly bad quality in all departments. It groups somewhere at 25 yards, but not often on a BIG SIGHT IN TARGET, so I must need larger paper the size of a barn door to try the next time, just for curiosity.

I have great results with CCI BLAZER ALUMINUM CASE.
I have very good results with AQUILA 45 ACP IQ alloy bullet ammunition.

The CCI gives 2 1/2 inch groups at 25 yards and the Aquila 117 gr alloy bullet gives 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inch groups at 25 yards.

Winchester sxp is also first quality.

Try NATCHEZ SHOOTER SUPPLY when the Aquila 45 acp IQ is on sale for half price for the 20 round box. About $4.99 then. It shoots good and is clean. I like it because it allows me to carry more ammunition with less weight. Because i hit my targets, it also makes me happier.

[model 649]

In a word? POOP!
Josh

[BluesBear]

I would call A-Merc ammo Horse Manure but that would be insulting both to all horses and to all manure.

I am amazed that bunch of irresponsible idiots are still allowed to manufacture that dangerous junk.

[TimboKhan]

I won't shoot the A-Merc ammo. I have had very, very good luck with Wolf in .45, 9mm and 7.62x39 and .223. I have also had good luck with the CCI Blazer, in both .45 and .357. The A-Merc on the other hand, while I haven't had any catastrophic failures, just isn't particularly good. I have gotten a few failure-to-fires with it, and it seems to produce alot of FTE. On this same topic, I had HORRIBLE luck with WWB ammo, but enough people have told me that they have had good luck with it that I might give it another try.

Timbo

[Sir Aardvark]

This seems to come up about every 3 months or so - maybe the mods can make it a Sticky?

A-Merc is nasty, nasty ammo!. Dirty... Inconsistent... Dangerous.

Check out the below link to see an A-Merc Glock kaBOOM!:

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g21kb4.html