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Kingofthehill April 9, 2010, 09:00 PM I have a good collection of guns. Well rounded and very open minded. I like em' all and everything seems to have a strong point.... my rush comes from finding out what it is.
Well no shock to most, the gun I speak of is a 1911. Previously my Wilson combat classic was my most accurate (at least in my hands) followed by my Dan Wesson..... but they both just dropped a notch.
The gun im speaking of... STI Trojan!.... this is the 6" 9mm model. Im sure the reduced recoil of 9mm and the increased sight radius of the 6" helps, OH and the extra weight on the nose makes the balance of that baby just every so sweet :cool:
It was basically cheating :neener: I have never shot anything so accurate, EVER. It blew me away.
I know i am not alone here. Have you ever had a gun that literally punched a hole RIGHT where you aimed it... if so, what was it?
http://i50.tinypic.com/2hppnpz.jpg
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red_eagle April 9, 2010, 09:08 PM The most accurate I have is a stock Beretta 92FS. I just put a Bar Sto barrel in my Glock 20C. The initial test load looked great. I made up a whole box and I'll be trying them out Tomarrow.
schmeky April 9, 2010, 09:38 PM Kingofthehill,
I really like that Trojan. I've read nothing but glowing reports on STI's, your's looks killer!!
I have a "lazer" pistol too, my accurized CZ-97B. I have lots of guns I can shoot pretty accurately, but this 97 makes shooting accurately very easy for me. It's almost effortless for me to shoot it incredibly well, and it really makes me look a lot better than I am.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2856/norincoslide053.jpg
Kingofthehill April 9, 2010, 09:40 PM Thanks schmeky!... Im also a HUGE fan of my CZ 75. It is a heck of an accurate gun.. More so then anything else ive shot/owned in that price range
earlthegoat2 April 9, 2010, 09:41 PM That is a nice looking gun. The long slides have fallen out of favor recently it seems. I like the caliber as well. It must make for a very light shooting pistol.
FirearmsEnthusiast April 9, 2010, 09:56 PM Thanks for the post, I have a deposit on an STI Trojan, hopefully it'll make me look good too :D
Kingofthehill April 9, 2010, 10:06 PM Thanks for the post, I have a deposit on an STI Trojan, hopefully it'll make me look good too
haha... I hope so too. I expected good things from this one, but i didn't expect this level of accuracy.
I didn't have my staple gun today to use my normal targets and bring them home, so i had to buy the adhesive ones and i couldn't bring them back with me since they tare when i tried to remove them.
I'll get some pics and video tomorrow at the range compared to others i own.
Im a pretty good shot... but this was just shocking.
JOe
sigsteve April 9, 2010, 10:23 PM Yea, I've had two that did that. My Dan Wesson RZ-10 and my Sig X-5 in 9mm. I amazed myself!
Runningman April 9, 2010, 10:25 PM Have you ever had a gun that literally punched a hole RIGHT where you aimed it... if so, what was it?
A longer sight radius definitely helps out. I've only shot a couple STI pistols and they both shot very well.
A few I own that shoot very well is a S&W Model 686 357 Mag with a 6" barrel.
In auto loaders. A Sig P229 Sport in 357 Sig. CZ Tactical Sport in 9mm. A Ruger Mark II Government 6 7/8" barrel. Glock 24 with a KKM aftermarket barrel in 357 Sig.
FirearmsEnthusiast April 9, 2010, 10:29 PM haha... I hope so too. I expected good things from this one, but i didn't expect this level of accuracy.
I didn't have my staple gun today to use my normal targets and bring them home, so i had to buy the adhesive ones and i couldn't bring them back with me since they tare when i tried to remove them.
I'll get some pics and video tomorrow at the range compared to others i own.
Im a pretty good shot... but this was just shocking.
JOe
My one has a bull barrel, it's in .38 Super, but it's only a 5 inch. I can't wait to get it!
Are you going to do a video on the Trojan? I think you should, there aren't many on youtube :)
DJW April 9, 2010, 10:37 PM I have found the STI Trojan 5" to be super in regards to accuracy. In .45 ACP it is really a pleasure to shoot.
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 12:34 AM Are you going to do a video on the Trojan? I think you should, there aren't many on youtube
Yeah, i started doing reviews of my guns on youtube (my sig underneath this post has the link) and i haven't done the Trojan yet because today was the first time i got to fire it. I put 450rds down range today with it though. I'll do another trip out tomorrow i hope and try and remember to get video/pics to include in the review
JOe
Bentonville April 10, 2010, 02:31 AM Hk p7
bad4dr April 10, 2010, 09:12 AM My M&P9c is scary accurate. Makes ragged holes wherever I put the front sight.
Rinspeed April 10, 2010, 09:49 AM I think the Trojan is the best 1911 you can buy under a $1000.
shockwave April 10, 2010, 10:23 AM A few I own that shoot very well is a S&W Model 686 357 Mag with a 6" barrel.
Same here. You can actually draw pictures on the target with your shots. Insanely accurate.
Ohio Gun Guy April 10, 2010, 10:47 AM My CZ75B..... At least its the most accurate I have shot, and works the best for me.
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 06:05 PM Pics as promised... took it back out today. The best, most accurate shooting i have ever done. Boy do i feel good right now
7 Yards by hand
http://i44.tinypic.com/34nibm8.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2efp93c.jpg
25 yards on a ransom rest
http://i39.tinypic.com/jihvm1.jpg
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content April 10, 2010, 07:00 PM Hello friends and neighbors // Nice looking Trojan and great shooting, makes my semiauto targets look as if I used a shotgun.
I've seen the Trojans around, I'll give em a closer look now thanks to you.
bannockburn April 10, 2010, 07:32 PM Kingofthehill
Nice shooting with that great looking long slide Trojan. What ammo are you using; does it have a preference for any particular load/bullet weight?
My two most accurate pistols have been both .45s; one a Browning BDA that could easily keep up with any out of the box Gold Cup; and a Colt Combat Commander that was part of a limited run from their Custom Shop. Either gun with IMI 185 gr. match ammo could keep 5 shots all in the center black at 50' without any problem.
Zertek April 10, 2010, 07:47 PM Well mine isn't exactly a long barrelled 1911 actually it only has a 3in. barrel but it shoots pretty good this is from 7yds.
http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy258/zertek/DSCF0561.jpg
dfjaws April 10, 2010, 07:51 PM I wish I could shoot like that... I need to practice more. :(
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 07:52 PM Great shooting there Zertek! Very impressive
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 07:56 PM Kingofthehill
Nice shooting with that great looking long slide Trojan. What ammo are you using; does it have a preference for any particular load/bullet weight?
My two most accurate pistols have been both .45s; one a Browning BDA that could easily keep up with any out of the box Gold Cup; and a Colt Combat Commander that was part of a limited run from their Custom Shop. Either gun with IMI 185 gr. match ammo could keep 5 shots all in the center black at 50' without any problem.
I have only had time to take it out twice. Both times using Remington UMC 9mm from Cabela's... nothing fancy.
I have a buddy who reloads and always looking for a challenge to beat the factory stuff. He is interested and were going to work on it. He has a 10mm setup i use in my Dan Wesson that is beyond amazing. Im going try and get out again sometime next week to try a variety of 9mm stuff from budget bulk ammo to the best i can get my hands on.
JOe
Stephen A. Camp April 10, 2010, 08:10 PM Hello. I share your fondness for the STI 9mm Trojan with 6" slide/bbl.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/hipowersandhandguns/NewSTI9mmLSmagrock2.jpg
This is easily one of the most accurate and easy-to-shoot pistols I've ever shot. Its accuracy has proven to be superb and feeding has been flawless.
Enjoy your pistol.
Best.
Quoheleth April 10, 2010, 08:22 PM I have three, actually. The first two are no surprises:
- CZ 85 - point, shoot, hole right THERE where I wanted it.
- Smith Model 15 (yeah, revolver)
Surprise of surprises, my new Ruger SR9c will shoot right with the CZ.
Sadly, I'm no where near that good with my 1911s....but I hope to get there someday!
Q
HOWARD J April 10, 2010, 08:37 PM My most accurate handgun is a Browning P-35 High Power 9 MM
with a 1 1/2 # trigger.------------------:D
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4590/p35r.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/p35r.jpg/)
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 08:40 PM 1.5" Trigger... Sweet googly moogly!
kennedy April 10, 2010, 09:08 PM Do they make a Trojan in .40?
Kingofthehill April 10, 2010, 09:12 PM Do they make a Trojan in .40?
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well, they list it in the 5" model
5" http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Trojan5.0/Trojan50.php
but not under 6"?
http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Trojan6.0/Trojan60.php
i don't see how they could offer it in the 5" but not the 6"???? maybe they didn't add it on the site?
JDGray April 10, 2010, 09:31 PM Rifles usually are more accurate than pistols.:neener:
Nice looking long pistol!
usp9 April 11, 2010, 07:44 AM My HK USP Elite delivered this five shot group. The 6" barreled guns can do pretty well.
This pistol has a very sweet SA trigger with an incredibly short reset.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Pistols/Heckler%20Koch/Elite45target-1-1.jpg
Kingofthehill April 11, 2010, 11:33 AM USP9- Great shooting there!
what distance was that from?
usp9 April 11, 2010, 01:02 PM what distance was that from?
Only 75 yards, and it would have been better but it was in a snow storm... up hill and I had a migraine.
;)
Actually, I only ever target shoot at either 12 or 25 yards. I don't remember, but I'd guess it was from 12 yards, as my eyes aren't good enough to do that well very often at 25 yards. I kept the target and took the picture because it was an extraordinary performance on my part. I am a very average shot usually.
The USP Elite is a very consistent, accurate pistol. I can't shoot that well with any other gun I own other than a .22 target pistol.
Kingofthehill April 11, 2010, 01:35 PM Well a huge congrats to you. Some excellent work there sir.
75 yards, uphill hahahaha... Totally snow blinded
mesinge2 April 11, 2010, 01:50 PM My put-the-hole-right-there-gun is a 44 Magnum Ruger Redhawk 7.5 inch barrel (See I cheated more, :D)
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This was 75 feet, with staged DA firing. For some reason in single action with this gun I am just horrible.
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P.S. Sorry about the dark no flash picture, but the flash made the hole hard to see.
jad0110 April 11, 2010, 09:10 PM To the OP,
That is some nice shooting! Congrats on finding the gun that works for you.
My most accurate gun (in my hands): 4" S&W Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman, .357 Magnum.
The group below was done at 25 yards, double action 2 hand hold unsupported. 1 shot every 5 to 7 seconds. 158 grain RNL and 4.0 grains W231. I consider myself a slighly above average shot, but this gun makes it look like I know what I'm doing - gotta love that :o .
3" overall grouping. I did adjust my grip after the first two shots that hit high. The final 4 shots landed into a 1.25" grouping. Yep, it's a keeper. Despite it's size, I carry it as often as possible, simply because it works too well for me not to.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2028%20357%20Magnum/DSC07946.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2028%20357%20Magnum/DSC07920.jpg
cyclopsshooter April 11, 2010, 09:37 PM nice groups, im a big 1911 fanboy too... just picked up an early combat elite a few months ago
was that trojan recently funded? :p
Kingofthehill April 11, 2010, 09:53 PM nice groups, im a big 1911 fanboy too... just picked up an early combat elite a few months ago
was that trojan recently funded?
hahahaha... nope, not by your purchase anyhow :) that is in the shape of a Fusion that will be in my possession within the week LOL.
I bought the Trojan about a month ago but then lost my vision due to a brain tumor that i just had removed. I just got my sight back and got the A-OK from the doc to go shooting again.
cyclopsshooter April 11, 2010, 11:06 PM wow, the tumor sucks, hope its not life threatening!
i think you will be happy with the fusion, i built a 1911 when they first started up and used their small parts, colt slide and barrel with essex frame- three years and thousands of rounds later it is still flawless
Kingofthehill April 11, 2010, 11:49 PM Thanks.
The tumor is good i think... i go for my first round of follow up MRI's next week to make sure its all gone. Its non cancerous and the pressure it put on my optic nerve literally made me blind... thats a scary feeling i tell ya.
hopefully its all behind me now. I had the surgery march 18th, im just now starting to feel OK.
The Fusion is my gift to me for being awesome i guess... hahahaha.... i told my fiancee that and she hit me in the arm
JOe
mesinge2 April 12, 2010, 12:24 AM ^^^I am happy to hear that it turned out alright and that its not cancerous.
Best of luck in the future.
mtnmasher April 13, 2010, 10:32 PM The STI Trojan is not available in Calif. :banghead::cuss::fire::barf::mad::(:uhoh::eek:
AND glad to hear the tumor turned out to be nonmalignant. Phew!!!
LopezEL April 13, 2010, 10:57 PM Ive shot 1911s: Colts, Dan Wessons, Kimbers, etc... they all shot very well. However, the first time I shot a loaned Smith and Wesson M52-2 I put all three shots in the same hole. I thought I had completely missed the target but I hadn't. The guy that let me shoot it actually ended up trading me the M52 for just my CZ 75SA. I liked the 75SA but I absolutely love my Smith M52.
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