Mitchell's Mausers


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XxWINxX94
April 10, 2010, 01:11 AM
Alright everyone,
Tell me the good, the bad, and the ugly.

I have ordered an 8mm Kar98k Service grade from them and was not impressed at all. The gun only has 3 matching parts, the factory code (ac, byf, etc.) was ground off, and the sight hood is not included on the gun. It's terrible why someone would take apart a good rifle and mix up the parts for some stupid reason. I paid a solid $399 + Shipping +FFL Fee for that rifle and I am not satisfied.

In my opinion, don't buy the service grade Kar98k, or at least somehow see it before you pay for it, or just don't buy one off them at all.

The good: My proofs are still very much in tact in all the right places, the gun functions and shoots flawlessly, and the bore was pretty clean, there is no pitting or surface rust at all on the gun and I got the true "parts" from a true Nazi rifle, haha.

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KingMedicine
April 10, 2010, 01:12 AM
I have heard nothing but bad things, but then again, Mausers are really not my cup of tea. I think there are a pile of old posts about Mitchell's if ya search for them.

Ignition Override
April 10, 2010, 01:27 AM
A nice classic Yugo with most parts matching can easily sell at a gun show for about $250-300 and nothing is ground off. I might have overpaid with the $300 for my really nice 48A last January, but it's my first Mauser, and not my last.

The next will also be a Yugo, as Czechs, which seem to be much less common, might seldom be for sale, or have trashed bores (in my very limited experience).

Many people claim that the very slick language in Mitchell's ads approach the very edge of fraud, without crossing that line.
At least your bore is in really good shape and the rifle probably looks good, as Mitchell's typically do.

nathan
April 10, 2010, 01:27 AM
They have already bubbaed the rifle from a collector's standpoint. Better find a nice Yugo K 98 in my opinion or a Russian captured one. I have gotten one nice K 98 Yugo from Century many years ago and it looked excellent for $100 . They have about 60 of those and were gone in a few hours. I was just lucky someone posted on the net CAI had them at the time.

madcratebuilder
April 10, 2010, 08:33 AM
Many people claim that the very slick language in Mitchell's ads approach the very edge of fraud, without crossing that line.

That's the common denominator with any Mitchell's Mausers thread.

I picked up a "collector grade" Mitchell's Yugo M48 at an estate sale a few months ago. This was one of the unissued M48's they did not molest, this rifle has given me Yugo Mauser fever. I just bought a M48A that the original owner had bought as an unissued rifle.

You can find unissued or nearly like new Yugo's at very reasonable prices, $200+ if you look. This is my first experience with the Mauser platform and I like it so far. I've read that Yugo's built after 1952 or so are of better quality because they had worked out production issues and the workers had more hands on experience with assembly.

Al LaVodka
April 10, 2010, 10:00 AM
But Mitchell's take such loverly pictures and take out such big advertisements!
That's gotta be worth something.

That said, I have a friend who does WWI re-enacting and has complained the last few years about the escalating price of German rifles.

Al

dirtyjim
April 10, 2010, 01:27 PM
if you buy one of their mosin nagants they will also include the accessories for an additional $250, not a bad deal if you like paying $250 for the same thing all the other importers include for free.

Jolly Green
April 10, 2010, 02:03 PM
As far as the bad and the ugly go, I was under the impression that MM was a complete scam of a company. They refurbish yugos and other countries mausers and re-park and mark them and call it a authentic German mauser. Hell, they'll even put an SS symbol on it for 100 more if thats your fancy.

Sorry for the discourse if you already knew this. If possible I suggest you return it and buy a mauser from empire arms or classic arms. They seem to have a decent reputation around here (even in classic arms sorta exagerates).

Best of luck.

lopezni
April 10, 2010, 08:38 PM
thanks for the detailed pics

jobu07
April 10, 2010, 08:45 PM
Being ground on the receiver ring almost makes me think Russian capture. I'd be interested to know what the import mark on it says. Could MM being purchasing scrubbed R/C Mausers and selling them at a mark up?

Ohio Gun Guy
April 10, 2010, 09:29 PM
Thats a russian capture If I ever saw one. Laquered stock, Spotty Re-blue, ect, ect. It looks like they polished the bolt, why??????

I like the RC mausers, it just depends on what they told you you were getting. Personally, I would have liked it better if they just left it alone and sold it as a Russian Capture Mauser.

XxWINxX94
April 10, 2010, 09:45 PM
I'm thinking a bit of russian capture myself. Mitchell's has some very deceptive advertising on their website, and in magazines. They call it a 'service grade', and claim it is original WWII, Nazi, German, Authentic, and a million other things that everyone wants to hear. This is the cheapest option you can order from them, so I guess you get what you pay for. I paid a total of $460 for it, which makes me mad because I could get an all matching one for around the same price at my local gun shows.
I will look for an importer mark right now and post what I see a little later.

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