help identify this FAL


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ifit
April 10, 2010, 04:01 AM
i had recently picked up an FAL, new to this rifle and help needed to identify which variant. lowere receiver number matches the barrel number. some pics to help, thanks
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/128-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/131-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/133.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/135-2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/123.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/140.jpg

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Birddog1911
April 10, 2010, 08:22 AM
It's an Imbel, which are good receivers. I think that it is a South African kit from what I saw on the lower. Damned shame they welded the flash hider, and did such a bad job at it as well. It could be a mix of SA, brazilian, who knows what parts. Do the bolt numbers match the lower?

ifit
April 10, 2010, 09:21 AM
i will check if the bolt numbers match, thanks. one more thing i found on the barrel its marked KAL 7.62

RebelRabbi
April 10, 2010, 09:58 AM
Do you see CAI on it anywhere? That's Century Arms' proof mark.

gunnie
April 10, 2010, 10:31 AM
..."Do you see CAI on it anywhere?"...

in pic #2, it says pacific armament built this rifle...

gunnie

ifit
April 10, 2010, 10:34 AM
did not find any stamp CAI, but have been told that it was built using a kit from a austrian stg58 the barrel and lower are steyr. from a source the gun was probably built by someone or a company likely some 10 yrs. ago hence the welding on the muzzle brake. thanks for the help now time to go shoot the darn thing:)

Bwana John
April 10, 2010, 12:35 PM
in pic #2, it says pacific armament built this rifle...
PAC just imported the Imbel receiver from Brazil.

I think that it is a South African kit from what I saw on the lower.How do you figure that? I see nothing that would indicate SA or Rhodie.

Who knows who actually built the rifle. Id check the headspace.

DMK
April 10, 2010, 12:56 PM
The selector markings are Austrian (or could be German apparently). They match my STG, which also has the same gas lever and action lock. The barrel looks like it has the bipod ridge too.

It's definitely a kit build. Probably an STG-58 kit (maybe possibly a G1) with the Imbel receiver.

No way of proving who built it unless they left a rollmark somewhere.

Bwana John
April 10, 2010, 01:04 PM
The safe fire and full auto markings are not English. Wouldn't an SA rifle have English markings?
No, South African FAL's can be marked with SRA or SED, it depends where they scrounged the rifle from.

I dont think even the SRA was English to begin with, just like FAL (Light Automatic Rifle) is not in English.

Who would use 'E' for semi and whatever that is for automatic?
SED is German. S= safe, E=single shot, D= double or full auto

powermad
April 10, 2010, 02:53 PM
No lug on the barrel so it's not a G1, unless it was lathed off.
All other features look to be an unissued STG58 kit.
The straight comb stock and metal handguards were swapped out for the humpback stock and plastic handguards.

The noise maker AKA a muzzle device looks to be an early Entriprise muzzle brake.
It's just a small spot weld so it will be easy to remove. At least it isn't welded all the way around or silver soldered on.

Nice rig, you can't get much better than that.

HorseSoldier
April 10, 2010, 06:08 PM
+1 on what DMK said. That's an Austrian StG-58 lower.

gunnie
April 11, 2010, 04:01 PM
...PAC just imported the Imbel receiver from Brazil....

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/marking-variances.html

gunnie

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