[hillbilly]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/states/wisconsin/7350199.htm

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS: Clark opposed to concealed-weapons laws
BY ROBERT IMRIE
Associated Press

GREEN BAY, Wis. — As thousands of gun-touting hunters roam Wisconsin in search of deer, Democratic presidential hopeful Wesley Clark said Tuesday he opposes concealed weapons laws like the one recently passed by the Wisconsin Legislature.

The retired four-star general from Little Rock, Ark., said he doesn't think people need concealed weapons for protection.

"If we need protection, we need other means of protection than concealed weapons," said Clark, explaining he owned 20 guns and has been shooting since boyhood. "I shot a lot of big guns and a lot of little guns. If you like big guns come into the Army."

[Pilgrim]

"If we need protection, we need other means of protection than concealed weapons," said Clark, explaining he owned 20 guns and has been shooting since boyhood. "I shot a lot of big guns and a lot of little guns. If you like big guns come into the Army."

I expect widdle wesley if elected will create the position of political officer in the Army to keep those people who like to play with big guns in line.

Pilgrim

[lee n. field]

Wasn't likely to be voting for him anyway.

[Ed]

What a clinton. I ought to put his phone number on my speed dial so I can call him to protect me everytime I go out.

[Crimper-D]

Sounds familiar........... Didn't Hitler say something like this regarding an armed citizenry?
Wonder how long it would take Wesley to start up his own version of the SS ?:neener: :barf:

[Skunkabilly]

I own a computer. I fix hundreds at work. I don't think anyone needs a computer or high speed Internet.

If you want a big computer, become an systems administrator.

[alan]

The 1 December issue of The New Gun Week had an interesting article about the general, and his past. Interested parties might wish to avail themselves of it.

[Lone_Gunman]

Has Bush been campaigning hard for a national CCW?

[Mark Tyson]

There he goes waving his military record around again. Why don't you go back to the military, "Wes", where people will have to listen to you.

[tiberius]

Has Bush been campaigning hard for a national CCW?

NO, I doubt he cares about it at all.

But if you are implying that Bush == Clark, then you must remeber that it was Bush who signed the TX CHL Bill into law. It was a campaign issue, so he is at least on record as supprting CCW at the state level.

[moa]

The more Clark opens his mouth, the more ignorant and silly he sounds. I saw him last Sunday on Face The Nation. Clark was dancing so much around about his many previous, positive statements on Bush and his Administration, that he is qualified to start a dance troop. I thought the interviewer, Bob Schieffer, was going to bust out laughing at some Clark's responses.

The man is a disingenuous at best.

[foghornl]

Hey, Wes:

If you really believe your own cock-and-bull story about John & Jane Q. Public-Citizen not needing CCW, I have a challenge for you.

Come try Pizza Delivery here in some areas of Cleveland/Akron. Same way it has to be done now...NO WEAPONS No 2-way radio maybe a cel-fone.

IF AND ONLY IF you survive 90 nights WITHOUT being car-jacked, robbed, shot, etc. then I MIGHT listen to you.

[Mark Tyson]

Come try Pizza Delivery here in some areas of Cleveland/Akron. Same way it has to be done now...NO WEAPONS No 2-way radio maybe a cel-fone.

Not to mention no air support, no fire support . . .

[Aces]

Can you imagine a national CCW law?
By the time it got through the senate,there would be so many backdoor and frontdoor registration schemes we would be much worse off.
Ol' Wes is trying hard to fall in line with the new moderate Dem line. We don't want your hunting rifles. Just the big, small, evil looking, or politically incorrect guns.

[Mark Tyson]

Every time the subject of guns has come up he has used it to indirectly tout his military experience.

In fact, anytime any subject comes up he has used it to tout his military experience.

Why don't we make him deputy assistant undersecretary for something to shut him up.

Or ambassador to France.

[benewton]

Having done my time, I suspect I've a rather dim view of the officer corps...

But, even given that they've their own body guards, I seem to remember that a few years ago, the National Rifleman ran an article on the "flag officer" model pistols that they were issued for carry, and they weren't issue .45 1911's. Too, they were allowed to buy them on their exit from the military, but I don't remember a price being mentioned...

Wonder if he got the same deal?

Anyway, having spent a few years of my life under that type, there's no way I'd vote for one becoming any thing more important than a septic tank inspector.

And even then, I'd probably have to hire someone to make sure he did the job right.

[Dashunde]

Welp, thats one less candidate I need to worry about voting for.

His fate is sealed as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, I'm a one issue voter... If the candidate is all-for CCW and one's right to protect themselves/family, most everything else they stand for usually falls into my line of thinking.

[cracked butt]

{Sounds familiar........... Didn't Hitler say something like this regarding an armed citizenry?
Wonder how long it would take Wesley to start up his own version of the SS ? }

Here's another Clark Quote in the same light.

Gen. Wesley Clark says: “I like to hunt. I have grown up with guns all my life, but people who like assault weapons should join the United States Army, we have them.”

This taken from a recent editorial written by John Lott on the 9 dwarves stances on gun control.

[cracked butt]

{Sounds familiar........... Didn't Hitler say something like this regarding an armed citizenry?
Wonder how long it would take Wesley to start up his own version of the SS ? }

Here's another Clark Quote in the same light.

Gen. Wesley Clark says: “I like to hunt. I have grown up with guns all my life, but people who like assault weapons should join the United States Army, we have them.”

This taken from a recent editorial written by John Lott on the 9 dwarves stances on gun control.

[Standing Wolf]

If we need protection, we need other means of protection than concealed weapons...

Easy for a man to say who has armed bodyguards.

Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites.

[Langenator]

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State" -- Heinrich Himmler

[Mark Tyson]

Having done my time, I suspect I've a rather dim view of the officer corps...

Actually I knew a lot of real gun nuts in the officer corps - too bad none of them are running for president.

It's a shame. Military officers should want a citizenry that has a somewhat martial spirit. You'd think, anyway.

[jimpeel]

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state."
--Heinrich Himmler -- Unattributable date or speech

“I like to hunt. I have grown up with guns all my life, but people who like assault weapons should join the United States Army, we have them.”
-- Wesley Clark -- CNN June 25, 2003

"I shot a lot of big guns and a lot of little guns. If you like big guns come into the Army."
-- Wesley Clark -- Town Hall Meeting, Green Bay, WI November 25, 2003

"If you want an assault weapon, with a flash suppressor and a barrel shroud, you should join the Army, Your country needs you."
-- Richard North Patterson -- Washington Journal, C-SPAN, November 8, 2003


"If you want to shoot guns, and shoot moving objects, you should probably join the military ..."
-- Caller from Smyrna, GA in support of Richard North Patterson -- Washington Journal, C-SPAN, November 8, 2003

Does anyone else, here, notice a pattern?

[greyhound]

Actually, this guy is such a snake, I bet if he learned that he could win by backing CCW, he'd be shouting it from the rooftops tomorrow.

Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites.

For all my railing about the 9 leftists Ds running for President, I don't even think this guy is a true leftist - he's really an opportunist.

Some Democrats are getting excited about a Dean/Clark ticket, hoping that Dean's anti-war will be balanced out by Clark's military experience (cause we all know that military experience is all it takes to run foreign policy) and defeat the Source of All That Is Evil In The World.

[Lone_Gunman]

Actually, this guy is such a snake, I bet if he learned that he could win by backing CCW, he'd be shouting it from the rooftops tomorrow.


Now I wonder which presidential candidate this would not apply to?

[TarpleyG]

If you like big guns come into the Army."
I'm a little tired of this rant from this goober. I was in the Corps and I see more guns now than I did then so his story is a liitle lame.

GT

[stevelyn]

Didn't Hitler say something like this regarding an armed citizenry?

Close. Same group of thugs, but the quote is actually atributted to Heinrich Himmler the head of the SS. Himmler used the quote as a pitch to recruit for the SS.

Regardless what Wesley "The Perfumed Prince" Clark thinks about concealed carry, he forgets that his oath to the Constitution means all of it not the parts he agrees with. The 2nd Ammendment really does mean the citizenry be armed with the military small arms of the day. This guy is another Klintoon with a worn out army uniform. I guess he too feels it's up to government to reign in our "radical individual liberty".

[G-Raptor]

Just because a guy wore a uniform for a number of years, doesn't mean he supports what the uniform stands for.

Wes Clark was FIRED by no less a hero that Bill Clinton. I also notice that none of the other "ex-generals" have come out to support him - mostly they have mumbled some "not too flattering" comments to press.

That tell me everything I need to know about his "military record". :rolleyes:

[geekWithA.45]

" If you like big guns come into the Army."

No, General, I will not. (For that reason, anyway)

I remind you sir, that your standing army is an American Aberation that was tolerated out of necessity during the cold war.

An army whose position is that big guns are only for them may protect the Body of America, but it Kills its Spirit, and is therefore unworthy of the task.

Begone.