Walker Army Nipple Wrench


April 21, 2010, 08:00 PM
Cabelas replaced a nipple wrench I broke with the wrong one. They sent me a Pedersoli Walker, Army that sells there for $25. Too much trouble to return it.
If anyone wants it, you can have it for $13, which includes shipping.
(I opened the package but didn't use the wrench.)

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Jason Mack
June 7, 2010, 03:29 PM
have you still got it?

June 7, 2010, 05:24 PM
I bought a similar wrench too because the package is labeled "Army Nipple Wrench" thinking that it was for the 1860 Army but it didn't really fit right. According to Cabela's user feedback, it's made to fit the Dragoon -a.k.a. Colt Old Army.
However the wrench pictured above looks different than mine. And I think that it did barely fit well enough to turn the Pietta 1860 Army nipples but was very loose.

"The product in itself is fine. It is an authentic reproduction of a 19th centruy tool that would bhave been included in any cased revolver set of the time. However, there is some confusion in the acquisition and advertising department! The Nipple wrench advertised in the catalog as being for the "Army" revolvers is for the Colt "Old Model Army" or Dragoon Models which Cabella's does not sell. It Will not fit the 1860 Army, 1851 Navy or the Remington revolvers which they do sell; it's too big. Cabella's does not currently sell the correct size wrench which Davide Pedersoli manufactures and labels "USA 043." This is the right size for the 1860, 51 Navy and the Remington. Maybe if enough of us ask them to, they will."


June 7, 2010, 09:26 PM
the Dragoon -a.k.a. Colt Old Army.
the Colt "Old Model Army" or Dragoon Models
First time I've heard them called the Old Army, or Old Model Army.
Learn something new every day.

June 8, 2010, 09:02 AM
"Old Army" normally refers to the Ruger Old army cap and ball revolver. Never heard it applied to the Colt 1860 Army.

June 8, 2010, 11:43 AM
It's not my label but the logic behind the nickname "old model army" is understandable considering that the previous model was the:

"Colt Model 1848 Percussion Army Revolver is a .44 caliber revolver designed by Samuel Colt for the U.S. Army's Mounted Rifles, also known as "Dragoons".


Then the next .44 model was:

The Colt Army Model 1860 was a muzzle-loaded cap & ball .44-caliber revolver used during the American Civil War. It was favored as a side arm by cavalry, infantry, and artillery troops.

The Colt 1860 Army uses the same size frame as the .36 caliber 1851 Navy revolver. The frame is relieved to allow the use of a rebated cylinder that enables the Army to be chambered in .44 caliber. Also, the barrel on the 1860 Army has a forcing cone that is visibly shorter than that of the 1851 Navy, allowing the Army revolver to have a longer cylinder. A major distinguishing feature introduced with the 1860 revolver was the "creeping" loading lever. This arrangement employs a cam interface between lever and barrel and ideally, prevents the lever from dropping and tying up the revolver if it should recoil loose from the barrel catch during firing.

More than 200,000 were manufactured from 1860 through 1873.


So in that respect the Model 1848 that was only nicknamed the "Dragoon" was indeed the "old model army" used by the army [cavalry] and the Model 1860 Army was Colt's new model .44 based on improvements made to the Model 1851 [.36 caliber].
The official name of the Colt Dragoon is written right in black and white in Wikipedia which was probably authored by mec with his book referenced. :)

June 8, 2010, 01:31 PM
"Official" name?
The authority conferring the status of 'official' is...Wilkipedia?

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