[Tim Currie]

Of course? Always? Why not? Ridiculous? A hassle? Bad idea?

I guess I could, but I'd have to stash it in the backpack. And it might hurt if I eat sh*t and land on it weird :uhoh:

[USMCsilver]

I don't think I would do it...at least not on the East side. Most slopes around here are short. The trip down takes very little time, so the probability of actually needing it is slim to none. Actually, what could happen on the slopes where one would need a gun? And, another thing, when I board, I often have a few drinks at the lodge. So, CCW would be out right then and there.

If I were out West, then I could maybe see carring at the slopes, but again, what could happen? Someone take you out on the slopes and demand your board? Unlikely.

I carry when I go, but I leave it in the car...

[Black92LX]

well one time while in Vail a good friend of mine looked behind him to see the snowboarder rebottoning his coat. to see what?? a FULL AUTO Uzi. The the lady right next to him was none other than Princess Diana. Her Royal Secret Service carries full autos while snowboarding so why not??

[Dave R]

I pack while boarding. Generally a P-32 in a pocket holster. The most secure rig I have. And the least likely to cause bodily injury if I crash on it.

[justice4all]

I ski, but when I do I put a P11 in the parka pocket.


24/7.

[Edward429451]

Think tether. Empty chamber, shoestring thru trigger guard and tied to your belt/loop whatever. Years ago I bit it in the snow and lost my NAA out of my front pocket. Didn't notice it gone until later. No more packin while snowboarding for me.:banghead:

[hjrocket]

I am The OLDUtahskibum-- free advice,if you fall do not land on it!!!!

[El Tejon]

1911 skiing, hiking, in the office, on a boat with a goat, and with green eggs and ham (I prefer eel).:D

Good holster and good belt.

[Andrew Rothman]

Maybe a fanny pack, worn at 12:00? It's the one spot you won't land on.

[Tim Currie]

Well actually.... I wont have my car, will be in a friend's. What's the legality on that? Can I leave it loaded and locked up in his car? Big no-no?

[Chairman Meow]

I see no problem with carrying as far as crashing and landing ong it except that it will hurt. If you crash hard enough to discharge a holstered on-safety weapon then I think you'll already be dead. I do however agree with USMCsilver about the drinking thing though. Nothing better than a beer or two to loosen up the muscles and get you into the zone. :D

[Skunkabilly]

I'd get some kind of nylon rig with a thumbbreak (and maybe even one of those 'airborne' straps) plus a lanyard.

[Tim Currie]

Nevermind..... forgot that the mountain is in both CA and NV. Time to get my damn NV CCW :rolleyes:

[scottgun]

Why would anyone need a gun while skiing or boarding?
Because I wouldn't want to need one and not have one.

I carry mine in a belly band, a velcro strap provides retention.

[Border]

Ridiculous. A hassle. Bad idea. OK Rambos, we're not living in Beruit! I can see it around town or traveling up to the ski area perhaps but having "left laundry" all over the mountain after a crash, I's say it's a bad idea even from a safety/loss perspcetive but more pertinently, what WAR ZONE are you living in that "you" need to: "have a gun in the bathroom, one in the laundry, one in the hall on the way form the bathroom to the laundry?! " etc.like some on this site. (I'm not picking on you Tim). I think that you can safely ski without being in "condtion yellow" or whatever. Those guys who ALWAYS have a gun on have some sort of dick extension thing going on or something or are just little kids "playing tough guy" and trying to draw a rationale for it: "Violence can happen anywhere!" (True, but not the real reason many people are carrying in the shower). Those people make us look like paranoid gun nuts IMO!

[El Rojo]

If nothing else just leave it in the car. Learning from the mistakes of others, whatever you do, tether that puppy to something that it isn't going to get separated from. I couldn't think of anything worse than losing my Glock in the snow. As soon as that stuff melts rest assured I would be back.

[scottgun]

It's not a matter of need. I don't need to do alot of things, its a matter of what I choose to do. If its legal and I can do it safely and securely, what it it any business of yours. Do you want to send me a list of places where you think it is sensible for me to carry?

I haven't heard the comparison of guns to male genitalia in a while, maily because I stopped reading liberal drivel. I'm surprised that you would draw the comparison of someone legally carrying to a dick extension.

If you don't think that you can ski well enough or carry properly, then don't do it.

There probably isn't a situation where I would need a CCW while skiing, but why not strap it on in the morning, wear it all day and not have to worry about your car being broken into and your gun getting stolen which is more likely to happen.

[guns'ahoy]

are you serious?


why in gods name would you pack while skiing or snowboarding :confused:

[armoredman]

Because leaving it in the car, out from your immediate control ,is an invitiation to theft, in a parking lot where criminals know you are going to be gone for a while. In Kali, is that not another heinous crime?
Snowboarding - invented by the first guy to lose a ski and stay upright...:D

[Dave R]

Why carry while boarding?

AFAIK, the national criminals union has not passed a declaration making ski areas "crime-free zones".

[Edward429451]

Why would anyone need a gun while skiing or boarding?

Oh, come on. Don't you watch James Bond? At any moment a brigade of jbt's can come over the hill with machine guns on skis...

As long as you have at least a ppk with you, you can take em all out.:D

[ChickenHawk]

Those guys who ALWAYS have a gun on have some sort of dick extension thing going on or something or are just little kids "playing tough guy" and trying to draw a rationale for it: "Violence can happen anywhere!" (True, but not the real reason many people are carrying in the shower). Those people make us look like paranoid gun nuts IMO!
That's always been my opinion as well. I carry and I sleep with a Glock on the bedside table, but when I read threads about people unwilling to attend family weddings and such unless they can do so armed I just have to cringe.

This is one of the (possibly rare if you wish) times you should be able to leave home without it.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

[scottgun]

http://news.theolympian.com/specialsections/Outdoors/20020222/22089.shtml

Outdoors Friday, February 22, 2002


Four snowboarders sought after Vail Mountain 'slope rage' attack


The Associated Press

Originally published Friday, February 22, 2002

VAIL, Colo. -- Authorities were looking for four snowboarders who bloodied a skier on Vail Mountain in what has been described as a case of "slope rage."

A 27-year-old man from the Vail area was attacked Feb. 10 by four men, who were estimated to be about 20 to 25 years old, after he warned them they were not properly equipped to ride out of the Vail Mountain boundaries, said Eagle County Sheriff's Deputy Heath Mosness.

The snowboarders took offense and allegedly used the skier's pole as a whip, bruising the man and severely blackening his eye, Mosness said.

A woman skiing with the victim tried to break up the fight, but she was frightened for her own safety, he said.

The victim, whose name was not released, was not hospitalized.

Investigators had no suspects Thursday, a day after issuing a news release seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Andree said it was the first attack on the slopes this ski season, but also said attacks are rare.

"It's just not a common thing. We have people who are rude to each other, which will happen no matter what resort you go to, but we rarely see actual attacks," she said.

[Sunray]

"...Royal Secret Service..." No such thing. Those guys were SAS, Scotland Yard or both.
"...allegedly used the skier's pole as a whip..." Responding with a firearm to this would likely get you a jail term or worse.

[olyAR73]

Scottgun <There probably isn't a situation where I would need a CCW while skiing, but why not strap it on in the morning, wear it all day and not have to worry about your car being broken into and your gun getting stolen which is more likely to happen>

Sorta what I was thinking too...I hate those situations where I gotta take it off and leave it in the car, like at the airport, gov. buildings ect.

[Gordon Fink]

“... allegedly used the skier’s pole as a whip ...” Responding with a firearm to this would likely get you a jail term or worse.

So in addition to knowing when and where attacks will occur, you can also tell which ones will be fatal?

To answer the original question, a compact semi-auto or snub revolver, zipped into the pocket of a padded snow jacket, should suffice for a day on the slopes.

~G. Fink

[guns'ahoy]

for me, this crosses the fine line into the 'paranoid' territory of gun owner.

just my opinion.

[Eric Bryant]

It all comes down to risk management, and frankly the odds of needing deadly force on the slopes is far, far outweighted by the risk of getting hurt by my own firearm by landing on it wrong.

Generally speaking, I present a much greater risk to myself than anyone else does when I participate in gravity sports :)

[mwithers72]

just a question. I can not ski (snow or water) nor can I snowboard. I have never done it. But what makes snowboarding or sking (not water of course) any different than when a person would normaly carry? is it any different than when you go to the store? other than the falling down thing (which is why I dont do either :D ) but do people not fall down when not sking? Some friends that I know can ski as well as they can walk and I have been known to catch that crack in the road on occasion or missed a step on a flight of steps. What makes you so sure that the ski slope is any more safe and secure than the local Quicke mart? why is it being paranoid when someone would cary in a place that you would not? I call it personal choice. If there are no laws stating that it is unlawfull to do so and the person is legally carring it then it all comes down to personal choice. Some would chose to and some would chose not to. It is their choice.

[CB900F]

Fella's;

I was a professional ski instructor for 21 years in a PSIA school on a western mountain. I'm not going to tell you I've seen it all, but I think I sure as he!! saw most of the possibilities. Are there reasons to carry on slope? Yup. Are they common? Nope. Can they happen to you? Maybe.

Domestic violence is not limited to the household. Neither is child abuse. Would a boyfriend try to haul a girl off into the woods & make her a real snow bunny? Without her consent? If you answered 'he wouldn't dare' you are now the poster child for terminal naivette.

Did/do I carry on slope? None of your business.

900F

[Russ]

When I was young and in shape I used to snow ski in the Southern PRK mountains and Mammoth quite alot. No snowboards then. No way to get a CCW where I lived there either. Now I think the snowboard would be a bigger danger to me than packing if I tried it!

[AZLibertarian]

Kinda a moot point here in AZ, as the ski area I frequent is on Indian land...and you don't want to be caught carrying on their land. Something about their sovereignty.

I'm all for carrying wherever you can, but outside a shoulder holster or a fanny pack (screaming "I have a gun"), just how would one propose getting into one's layers to get to this concealed weapon?

[PrudentGT]

It seems a shame you wouldn't carry when a thick winter coat opens up all sorts of exotic carry options...

http://webarms.com/Gun%20Suppliers/dpms/Rfa2-ap.jpg

[novalooker]

Well, I prefer to ski in the East and I am usually packing when heading out. Of course, I tend to ski backcountry trails, and am more worried about an encourter with a wolf, cougar, or bear than a disgruntled or crazed person .... but you never know. I've been in the middle of no where West Virginia, well into the Dolly Sods, and encoutered some real red neck types. All was well, but I felt safe knowing I could handle my end. Encoutered similar strange people at night along the Catamount trail in Vermont, at the hut between Bolton and the Trapp Family lodge - and thats on of the more ritzy well traveled backcoutnry locations in the world.

[rock jock]

Yeah, there's a little paranoia going on here (or maybe a lot), along with some 007 wannabeism, but as long as it remains concealed I could care less. IMO, the most dangerous person on the slopes is yourself.

OTOH, there is always the possibility of carrying a snubbie 500 magnum to blow away the tress before you run head-on into them, ala Sonny Bono.

[Skunkabilly]

http://www.dsarms.com/images/wintertwig.jpg

Hot diggity, this is :cool:

[Brian Dale]

Hey, how 'bout just carrying a slung rifle? Tell 'em you're training for Biathlon. It's:
(1) an Olympic sport,
(2) with a long history - so therefore
(3) no problem, right? :neener:

Just don't fall. :uhoh:

(Hey Skunky, I think you've shown us the right rifle for that; you posted the perfect pic while I was typing this)

[El Tejon]

Happy Bob, that's exactly what I do here. No permit required for rifle as well, but still carry a pistol.:)

[El Tejon]

To those of you that say carrying a pistol while out skiing is "paranoid", I ask how is it paranoid to carry while skiing but okey-doke to carry to the mall, or the office, or the sushi bar?

A pistol is like a seat belt, you have to wear it all the time for it to work. A pistol is emergency equipment, you cannot pick the date and time for an emergency. Carry your pistol.:)

[Thumper]

I do...in a standard fanny pack.

Funny, my ex girlfriend and I just had this conversation...she just moved to Colorado and was wondering where to keep her G19 when boarding. Good girl...Thunder Ranch attendee...shoulda kept her.

[Orthonym]

Not having seen snow till I was 19, I think yer all pretty weird, but at least the 2-ski guys seem rather normal, if a little too wealthy and affected, but the snowboarders (only seen them on TV and heard from them here) seem like the kind of folks we have pistols to protect ourselves AGAINST! i.e., "Hey dude! I'm so rude! I dare you to do something about it!"

[mwithers72]

I ask how is it paranoid to carry while skiing but okey-doke to carry to the mall, or the office, or the sushi bar?



Amen Brother!!!!!!!

It is ok to carry anyplace else...but OH NO don’t you dare carry if you go to ski!! like said before do you not ware your seatbelt if you go to the store down the block or only if you if you travel on the interstates?? do you leave your spare tire at home when you are in town and only put it in the car if you go out of town.... and further more if you don’t have a permit to carry then you would not be packing..(leagly anyways). I have insurance on my car and my home...am I being paranoid about a car crash or my house burning down because I have insurance......no it is "socially acceptable" to have insurance but in most cases it is not "socially acceptable" to carry personal defense insurance. what gives??

if you dont have a permit to carry then dont tell me where or when I should carry.

[El Tejon]

mwithers, the only thing I can think of is that some people only ski in those foofoo resort places patronized by spoiled suburban kids. They forget, or more likely just don't know, that not everywhere skis where they do.:)

I don't dream of imaginary bears or anxiously look to the sky for black helicopters (or even worse bears in black helicopters), but I know that if one makes plans for trouble, it will never occur. :cool:

[guns'ahoy]

i could see taking your gun with you, and deposting in your ski locker, if you're worried about getting mugged in the parking lot of a ski area.. i guess.


... but on the actual mountain? unless you're skiing in the back country (and you're looking out for animals) i just can see a situation where it would be benificial to have a gun on you. it isn't the office, it isn't the corner store... it's a ski hill. there isn't nefarious bad guys hiding behind the trees, planting bear-traps between the moguls. if you get in an argument with somone on the slopes, it's pretty easy to just ski away. or maybe you've seen Cliffhanger one too many times :rolleyes:

[mwithers72]

I am reminded of some things that happened at a local golf course here in town. They had a rash of robberies on the back nine. The offenders would hide in the weeds and hold the golfers a gun point and take all of their valuables, including clubs. that’s not the office, or the corner market. But it is a outdoor sport. skiing is done out doors is it not. The point is that there is no cosmic law that will magically make people abide by the law and not do anything to break said laws just because it is skiing on a mountain. Therefore you can call it


007 wannabeism


or you can call me


paranoid


if something happens I will be perpared

[El Tejon]

Ski area? Ski locker? Leaving guns in cars to be stolen? Never heard of any of those. It appears it is as I posted earlier.

Guns are not for arguments. If you believe that guns are for arguments, you should never own one.

Yes, there are bad guys out there. I see them everyday and read the police reports. I hope they do not hurt me while I am out hurting myself, i.e. skiing:D, but if they try I am ready just as if I am if going to the dry cleaners.

As wise man soon to be out of Tejas sez, "people say I'm paranoid because I carry a gun. That's silly, I have a gun why should I be afraid.":D

[Drjones]

I think we're being invaded by the minions of brady. :scrutiny:

[kenehsr]

Here's an idea for ya. If you have a permit you know that there are certain places you cannot carry. Other than that he ultimately decides where and how he carries. I would say make sure it is concealed and secure. With the world today you never know.:scrutiny: All he asked was if he would need to carry not if he needed to pull while on the slopes. As far as I can remember those are two different things. Please correct me if I’m wrong. :confused:Thanks and have fun boarding. :D

[mwithers72]

ya know what Thanks kenehsr it was......er......is his question. I hope you have an answer............er now im confussed......did you get the answer you were looking for. sorry about the hijacking....

:scrutiny: :evil:

[spacemanspiff]

Ridiculous. A hassle. Bad idea. OK Rambos, we're not living in Beruit! I can see it around town or traveling up to the ski area perhaps but having "left laundry" all over the mountain after a crash, I's say it's a bad idea even from a safety/loss perspcetive but more pertinently, what WAR ZONE are you living in that "you" need to: "have a gun in the bathroom, one in the laundry, one in the hall on the way form the bathroom to the laundry?! " etc.like some on this site. (I'm not picking on you Tim). I think that you can safely ski without being in "condtion yellow" or whatever. Those guys who ALWAYS have a gun on have some sort of dick extension thing going on or something or are just little kids "playing tough guy" and trying to draw a rationale for it: "Violence can happen anywhere!" (True, but not the real reason many people are carrying in the shower). Those people make us look like paranoid gun nuts IMO!
dunno bout the rest of ya'll, but skiing around here could put a person in close proximity to some mean moose that just love to trample us poor humans.

only democrats make arguments about what people NEED to have. the rest of us norms realize it doesnt matter one GD bit what other people want to do.

[Zundfolge]

i could see taking your gun with you, and deposting in your ski locker, if you're worried about getting mugged in the parking lot of a ski area.. i guess.
Talk to a dozen people who ski regularly and you'll probably find at least 2 of them who have had stuff stolen out of one of those lockers ... I for one don't like the idea of arming criminals so I'm not going to make it easy for them. Same goes for locking it in your car.

As for "needing" a gun on the slopes ... those situations would be pretty rare (but not completely unheard of ... I had a friend attacked by a pack feral dogs on a ski slope once), but walking to your car in the ski resort parking lot isn't any more or less safe then the parking lot of a mall.

Not everyone who skis parks in the parking lot of the ski area. Last time I went skiing we had a motel room about 6 blocks from the slopes (and I've stayed as much as 5 miles from the slopes in the past), when we where done skiing we walked that distance carrying hundreds of dollars worth of gear (several times after dark) ... if you think nobody ever gets mugged in a ski resort town you need to stop hanging out with the marketing guy from the local chamber of commerce. :p

As for the "genital extension", and "paranoid" comments, remember, this is The High Road :rolleyes:

[Edward429451]

Did/do I carry on slope? None of your business.

I'll take that as a yes.:D

[Skunkabilly]

I don't dream of imaginary bears or anxiously look to the sky for black helicopters (or even worse bears in black helicopters), but I know that if one makes plans for trouble, it will never occur.

El T, are the bears in the helos wearing blue helmet? :D

If I went snowboarding, I'd take one. But I don't snowboard.

Do they make carbon fiber snowboards?

[Tim Currie]

Do they make carbon fiber snowboards?

I'm sure you could find something tactical...

[El Tejon]

Skunk, yes, the bears have little slots cut in their blue helmets so their ears can stick out. Keep watching the Western skies, people! The bears, the bears . . . .

Carrying a pistol(s) is not about "need" it is about preventing a need.:)

[ajacobs]

My local ski resort has armed off duty cops (in uniform) paid to ski on the sloap, that is an indication that it wouldn't hurt for me to carry while skiing.

[Skunkabilly]

My local ski resort has armed off duty cops (in uniform) paid to ski on the sloap, that is an indication that it wouldn't hurt for me to carry while skiing.

No, that means you need a new job. Carry, ski, and get cool arctic camo gear on company expense :cool:

Have you seen the arctic camo Oakley goggles?

[ninjaj448]

Carrying while skiing, snowboarding? I can understand the need for self defense when water skiing or sky diving but one packing while snow skiing seems a little paranoid to me.

[Drjones]

Carrying while skiing, snowboarding? I can understand the need for self defense when water skiing or sky diving but one packing while snow skiing seems a little paranoid to me.

That's an ironic sentiment coming from someone named "ninja."


:neener:

[hjrocket]

Went skiing yesterday at Alta, left pistol in safe. At about 9785 ft above sea level, a snow snake jumped out and tripped me--fell down (first time since 1968). If I had had my P239 I coulda shot it!!
The OLD Utahskibum:uhoh: Watch those snow snakes!!!!

[ninjaj448]

I have been skiing one time and as with golfing, I find better ways to spend what money I have. I do recall that one time, however; a total of 4 falls, one very PO'ed ski-gal regular I guess I cut off and a grand finale over the parking lot fence at the bottom of the beginner hill. This was after I caused a pile up with my first fall getting out of the chair lift on the way up. Plus the rented boots were too tight. With all that, I'm glad I didn't have to worry about 'printing' or having my piece go flying a different way than I did.

Like others on this thread, I do not feel comfortable leaving my goods in the truck or anywhere where I ain't. Michigan has a bunch of places we cannot carry so I leave my gun home, in the safe, when I have to go to one. Seems like some of you out West where the slopes are 15 miles long may have a point about carrying rather than leaving it in the lodge or vehicle.