Win vs. CCI small pistol primers


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caver
April 22, 2010, 06:27 PM
Hello everyone,

My win small pistol primers have been on back order for ever. I have the chance to exchange the Win for CCI small pistol primers for the same price and they are in stock. I've never used CCI always been Win.

What are your opinions?

Thanks

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armoredman
April 22, 2010, 06:30 PM
I use CCI when I can get them, they work great.

jmortimer
April 22, 2010, 07:22 PM
I use both. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Both work just fine. If I have my choice I get Winchester but no reason to do without.

caver
April 22, 2010, 07:25 PM
Thanks for the replies, I'll tell them to send me the CCI's. Like it was said, bettter to have something.

Ala Dan
April 22, 2010, 07:35 PM
I like Federal primers for handguns. They have worked well for me, over
many years. However, I will be using CCI #400 primers for handloading
the .223/5.56~! ;) :D

Slim Pickens
April 22, 2010, 09:52 PM
My win small pistol primers have been on back order for ever. I have the chance to exchange the Win for CCI small pistol primers for the same price and they are in stock.

You and I must have received the same email from Cabela's today. :)

Nothing wrong with CCI, I may change my order too.

Runningman
April 22, 2010, 10:01 PM
Have never had a problem with CCI small pistol primers. Used them for decades.

bds
April 22, 2010, 10:16 PM
Another +1 for CCI. Although I prefer Winchester, I won't blink an eye for CCI.

Ala Dan
April 22, 2010, 10:23 PM
What do you guy's [or gal's - pardon the pun, please] see that is wrong
with Federal primers~? Just curious, cuz as I stated;they have worked
very well for me, over the course of many years. ;)

mousegun380
April 22, 2010, 10:46 PM
The only problem I have ever had with CCI is that they must be harder than Federal because I have had trouble with them going off in match revolvers. In pistols they work great.

bds
April 22, 2010, 10:54 PM
What do you guy's [or gal's - pardon the pun, please] see that is wrong
with Federal primers~? Just curious,

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=516259

Jesse Heywood
April 23, 2010, 12:36 AM
Aren't Federal primers the reason why Lee says to use only CCI & Winchester?

1SOW
April 23, 2010, 12:45 AM
Lee doesn't say that. They say their basic primer holder isn't safe with too many Federals in it.

I use Fed exclusively and reload in a Lee Turret Press.

The Feds will fire 100% of the time in a gun with a light trigger/hammer spring.

Jumping Frog
April 23, 2010, 01:29 AM
You and I must have received the same email from Cabela's today. :)
Your message prompted me to go check my email -- I got the same Cabelas email.

The only issue I have is CCI primers are a less expensive primer than Winchester. For example, current Graf's price for 5k primers:
CCI = $109.99 ($22/k)
Winchester = $137.99 ($27.60/k)

So Cabelas offering me CCI primers at the Winchester price doesn't exactly appeal.

rondog
April 23, 2010, 01:34 AM
I'd betcha 29 cents that Winchester doesn't make their primers anyway. Just has their name on them, like their powders. Probably don't make their ammo either.

Jesse Heywood
April 23, 2010, 02:13 AM
Lee doesn't say that. They say their basic primer holder isn't safe with too many Federals in it.

Go to this page:
http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1271999280.3484=/html/catalog/primtool.html

joneb
April 23, 2010, 03:44 AM
I hear ya Ala,
I like Federal primers in my revolvers with Winchester brass.

Walkalong
April 23, 2010, 10:35 AM
Not a thing in the world wrong with Federal primers. I have used both CCI and Win small pistol primers lately working on lite .357 loads as well as .38 loads, and the CCI seem to give slightly less velocity. Sometimes I have had to go up .1 Grs with the CCI 500 vs WSP. Work great though. I have 2K of Fed small pistol primers, but I have been "hoarding" them.

The Bushmaster
April 23, 2010, 11:02 AM
Winchester primers tend to be just a bit hotter then CCI. I keep both at my loading bench. Not partial to Remington primers and I haven't taken the time to try Federals.

MachIVshooter
April 23, 2010, 12:02 PM
CCI is my preferred primer in all applications. In the reverse of the OP, I find winchester, with their soft naked brass cups, to be the least desireable of the common commercial stuff.

kimbernut
April 23, 2010, 12:05 PM
Not a thing wrong with Federals either. There was a time when they became a little scarce in my area and I went to all Win. I, like a lot of you, have had an order in with Cabelas since forever. I got the notice today as well and did not hesitate to go with CCI. I started out with CCI, as a matter of fact, and never had a problem with them just migrated to what was available with a more steady supply of Wins.
This still only covers half of my order with Cabelas though as I also have small rifle primers ordered as well. I have instructed them to keep me on the backorder list for shipment of the WSR primers ASAP. Order has been in since September but what the heck- good price by todays standards.

cagwp
April 23, 2010, 04:08 PM
Ya I got the same email. I placed my order over 8 months ago for a 1000 each of win LR, LRM, SP and have yet to recieve it. How long have your orders been on back order? Mine was placed in 8/09 and I will choose to wait for the winchesters. Since this has happened I have been using Natches, Midway, Missouri bullets for all of my reloading needs. I learned that it's cheaper for me to order from these companys and there customer service is better than cabelas when it comes to reloading supplies. I have read online that customers going into some cabelas stores are able to buy winchester primers off of the shelf, so I'll take my mail order's someplace else from now on. I tried to get Cabelas to tell me where Im at on the back order list but they keep sending me the same reply that the product will be in at the end of the current month, been getting this reply for 8 months. :banghead:

armoredman
April 23, 2010, 10:35 PM
CCI primers finally available...when I am broke... GAH!!!

Seedtick
April 23, 2010, 11:45 PM
I got the same email but I'm gonna wait em out. I've got plenty of CCI 500's but I could still use a few WSP's.

Mine have been on order either 11 or 12 months.

ST

:)

sonick808
April 24, 2010, 12:47 AM
I use WSP and CCI #500 and think they are both great. I started on CCI #500's and used them for a long time until finding a local source for cases of WSP. I can't tell any difference other than color.

sonick808
April 24, 2010, 12:48 AM
Lee says do not use federal PERIOD; in their handheld primer tool lit. In the printed manual for the autoprime they are called out directly by name.

Federal makes good stuff, but this warning deters me from trying their primers, simply because the autoprime is integral to my habits

armoredman
April 24, 2010, 03:43 PM
I use Fed 100 right now, but that was because it was all I could find. I looked all over this morning, everyone backordered again. Oh well, keep haunting the shops up north and south when I can.

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