Glock 17 vs Ruger SR9


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pake
May 1, 2010, 01:41 PM
Have a Glock 17 but are a little curious about a Ruger SR9. I will use it for IPSC. Benefits and disadvantage



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Mike J
May 1, 2010, 01:49 PM
The biggest problem I would see with the SR9 is the magazine disconnect. If you pull the trigger without a magazine in it can damage the pistol. I have not competed but isn't it necessary to remove the magazine & pull the trigger to show clear.

ProCarryNAustin
May 2, 2010, 12:16 AM
I have never fired a Ruger that was as accurate as my Glocks. Ruger does make rugged pistols, they always seem to go bang, but they are on the outside edge of the accuracy I like to see in my pistols. I use a Glock 17 with Dawson sights for IPSC. Good combo.

Wolvee
May 2, 2010, 12:34 AM
The magazine disconnect is made and designed to be removed. It takes all of 5 minutes. The biggest issue will be an stiff and gun depending an inconsistent trigger pull. That being said, I LOVE my ruger, and I wouldn't trade it for a glock ever.

highorder
May 2, 2010, 01:50 PM
The Ghost trigger kits (http://www.ghostinc.com/product/GHO_2105-E-2RRUGER/ULTIMATE-FOR-RUGER.html) for the Ruger SR9 would seem to make them a legitimate competition platform.

zombienerd
May 2, 2010, 02:07 PM
I've never used my SR-9 for competitions. I've only fired a few Glocks.

That being said, I really do like the SR-9. I can't say if mine is accurate enough to win any contests, but she keeps all 17 rounds in a 2-4" circle at 25 yards if I do my part.

You need to pay close attention to the chamber end of the barrel within the first 500 or so rounds you put through it. X out of 10 guns (not sure of the statistic) seem to have peening problems (mine included) The slide smacking the chamber is causing a slight deformation.

It's mostly cosmetic, and I'm not going to send mine back until it becomes an issue, but it can and does happen on some of them. Most of the people who have had it happen agree that the gun may just be built too tight, but I have no idea if that's valid.

Ruger does have good customer service though, and have repaired anyone's that has been returned with peening.

bigfatdave
May 2, 2010, 02:18 PM
Isn't the biggest concern the fit to your hand?

First borrow one and/or hit a rental range, then decide is it is what you want and what tweaks might be required to get it competition-ready.

LancerMW
May 2, 2010, 04:21 PM
umm, i personally cant stand the SR-9's i think they have terrible triggers, i dont mind Glocks though i perfer the 19 to the 17.

Wolvee
May 2, 2010, 09:21 PM
I have the Ghost waiting for install. I haven't had any issues at all and I'm over 3000 rounds now. The mags are amazing as well.
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JR47
May 2, 2010, 09:30 PM
umm, i personally cant stand the SR-9's i think they have terrible triggers, i dont mind Glocks though i perfer the 19 to the 17.

I have the exact opposite feelings. Glocks, to me, feel like someone took a section of 2X4, and stuck a handle on it. They don't point naturally in my hands. I own both the SR9 and the KP345. I like the P345 best of the two for feel.

highorder
May 2, 2010, 11:57 PM
The mags are amazing as well.

FWIW, SR9 mags are nearly identical to M&P9 mags side by side. The mag catch cutout is different, but they will feed dummy rounds if held in place. I believe both are made in Italy by Mec-Gar.

Strahley
May 3, 2010, 02:55 PM
I've tried an SR9 before, it was ok. Nothing that I wanted to go rush out and buy. Trigger was meh

I'd go with the G17

Roc_Kor
May 5, 2010, 05:32 AM
This 3 part review series on the SR9 compares it to the Glock 17:
The reviewer seems to like it enough. Hope it helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTaV3A2jIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfW0YR0yD2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNxlmA2iT4

Quoheleth
May 5, 2010, 08:28 AM
I love my "new model" [my name, not Ruger's] SR9c. It has the newly redesigned trigger in it (mfg early 2010). They put it in the compact models first and it's supposed to be included in the fullsize models. Before you knock the Ruger, try one of the new triggers. Call Ruger and ask if the same trigger is now installed in the full-size; get SN range, etc. I don't know about the Ghost, but this new one is great. Sadly, it can't be retrofitted back into a previous trigger system.

My SR9c is an extremely accurate gun, thin enough for CCW, light enough for every day use - even pocket carry if necessary with the right holster/pants/shorts combo, and an all-around great gun so far.

Q

3leggeddog
May 5, 2010, 11:02 AM
I had a SR9 for 9 months and I got rid of it. The trigger never had a consistent pull. Also the "Striker" has been know to break after dry firing!
Ruger quality control is not what it use to be, its a hit and miss if you get one with out issues!
FOR ME the LONGER BARREL on the G17 is alot easier to shoot accurate,the sight are easier for a old man to see!
I just got a M+P 9 ,the build quality and trigger is so much better than the SR9. I'am not a Glock fan boy,but I'd take the G17 over the SR9 in a heart beat!

JR47
May 5, 2010, 07:16 PM
Sorry, but the only Glocks that I have shot were issue pieces, with the NY trigger. The Ruger is a work in progress, while the Glock has been around for almost 30 years. The beginner Glocks had their share of problems with triggers, magazines, sights, barrels, firing pins, and the .40 cals had a small problem with blowing up.

I'd suggest trying the new trigger models before I acted upon anyone's opinions.

As for the M&P, they have also had their teething problems. Ask the police.

atblis
May 5, 2010, 09:50 PM
Is that really the picture for the Ruger part in the ghostinc.com link? If so, that is rather similar to a Glock connector.

highorder
May 6, 2010, 09:34 PM
The Ruger is VERY similar to brand G.

atblis
May 6, 2010, 10:33 PM
Yeah, I was just looking at the instructions for that part. That thing is a copy of a Glock with a few changes. Never realized that before.

KBintheSLC
May 7, 2010, 02:57 AM
The biggest issues I have with the SR9 is the lawyer-proofing... mag disconnect and redundant manual safety. The Glock does not have these problems. In my opinion, having a manual safety on a double-action-only pistol is like wearing 2 condoms at the same time... unnecessary, uncomfortable, and leads to poor performance when it counts.

Jed Carter
May 7, 2010, 05:51 AM
For IPSC matches I would use either your G17 or the better choice of the Glock G34. Drop in parts are easy to come by if you want to do modifications to the Glocks. Magazines are cheap, plentiful, just about indestructible and you will want a bunch to shoot in matches. I only own 1 Glock, the G34 it is my USPSA/IDPA pistol for now, have an STI 1911 ordered, it will be here in September. I really like everything about the G34, except the long trigger pull and reset, also the stock Glock sights need to be replaced IMO, again parts for the Glock are easy to find, and don't take a pistol smith to install. I personally would never consider the Ruger, XD, M&P, or any other Glock clone, possibly an H&K P30L or USP Expert. If you really want to compete maybe step up to an STI Spartan in 9mm for around $650.

Platypus357
May 7, 2010, 06:12 PM
I was in a similar situation a few months ago. I tried firing both, as well as an M&P, to see what felt best. I went with the SR9 simply because it felt the most comfortable in my hand, and I had better groupings.

Just my personal preference, but you wouldn't go wrong with either. Try firing both and see what feels best

alienbogey
May 7, 2010, 08:28 PM
<<The biggest issues I have with the SR9 is the lawyer-proofing... mag disconnect and redundant manual safety. The Glock does not have these problems. In my opinion, having a manual safety on a double-action-only pistol is like wearing 2 condoms at the same time... unnecessary, uncomfortable, and leads to poor performance when it counts.>>

While I agree that the magazine disconnect is an idiocy designed to appease lawyers and allow Ruger to sell SR-9's in **********, as far as I'm concerned the manual safety - which is not redundant as there is only one - is a positive feature of the pistol. Some people want a manual safety, some don't, which is why manufacturers make pistols with and without them.

One of the several reasons that make me have no interest at all in a Block is the lack of a manual safety.

I really doubt that there will be as many cases of 'SR-9 Leg' as there are cases of Glock Leg.

YMMV

KBintheSLC
May 7, 2010, 11:25 PM
One of the several reasons that make me have no interest at all in a Block is the lack of a manual safety.

There is a manual safety actually... its called a long double action trigger, and when used properly provides all the safety I need. Of course, this is always a matter of personal opinion.

alienbogey
May 8, 2010, 12:38 AM
Sorry, not trying to be a smart ***, but I disagree completely.

A trigger is not a manual safety.

A manual safety prevents a trigger from being pulled.

That's not to say that a long, double action trigger can't be safe, of course.

Oldnoob
May 8, 2010, 12:58 AM
I'm not a fan of Ruger's SR9. Terrible trigger (even amount the polymer pistols), sharp edges everywhere, poorly molded plastic frame, tiny and very difficult manual safety, and my biggest wonder was why such a long reach grip (from trigger to web of hand)? It feel almost a 45acp pistol chamber in 9mm.

It's a nice try by the Ruger, and I do like the price tag Ruger try to market it (around $400). But as the price reflect, it is a step down from Glock/XD/M&P. If slimmer grip is what you want, get a XD.

highorder
May 8, 2010, 12:59 PM
Terrible trigger (even amount the polymer pistols), sharp edges everywhere, poorly molded plastic frame, tiny and very difficult manual safety, and my biggest wonder was why such a long reach grip (from trigger to web of hand)? It feel almost a 45acp pistol chamber in 9mm.

Many people have not had your experience; assuming you actually own and shoot one. It's quite easy to hate on something that many others dislike as well.

mossytrigger
May 21, 2010, 07:22 PM
The magazine disconnect on the sr9 is easy to remove. I'm trying to make up my mind between the glock 17, xdm, and sr9- recently sold my p229, it never really fit my hand right. I won't make a decision until I've had a chance to shoot all 3- it's a lot of money to gamble. You always test drive a car, right? But, judging by the amount of manufacturer's packing grease I've seen in "used" guns at pawn shops, I guess a lot of folks buy guns cause they have nothing better to do. I have an idea- if you're one of those guys who buys a gun and never takes it out, you could lend it to me for a while :)

Haifisch
May 21, 2010, 07:48 PM
I love Ruger revolvers, but their semi autos do nothing for me.
Go with a Glock.

pake
July 25, 2010, 06:02 PM
Thank you for all your answer. But I go whit my Glock 17

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