Savage 64 vs. Ruger 10/22?


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WardenWolf
May 2, 2010, 10:31 PM
I already have a Ruger 10/22, but, frankly, I'm not happy with its accuracy, and it would cost more than the gun is worth (or more than a new gun, for that matter) to accurize it. Doing so would require a new barrel and a new stock. As a result, I'm looking for a new gun. How is the accuracy on the Savage 64 compared to the stock 10/22? Reliability?

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22-rimfire
May 3, 2010, 12:14 AM
I don't have any experience with the 64. But it seems that most 22 rifles are more accurate out of the box than a Ruger 10/22. Ruger should really work on that perception. The question is reliability which I don't know the answer to that? I would tend to lean toward a Marlin in the same pricing area however if I were buying a replacement. IF you want more accuracy, take a look at the TC R-55 Classic.

Powerglide
May 3, 2010, 06:00 AM
I have a 64 Savage that is brand new and its a real tack driver. But, it will only feed round nose rounds.HP's really screw it up.

PigButtons
May 3, 2010, 11:56 PM
Just this morning I shot a neighbor's Savage 64. He had just attached and sighted in his scope on the gun which he bought last Saturday. His back yard range is only 25 yards but I was able to put my first two shots through the same hole. He had to go to work so that was all I got to try but was very impressed. Very nice feeling gun.

WardenWolf
May 4, 2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the info, folks. Looks like I'll be retiring my 10/22 once I save up the money. I loved that rifle when I was younger. My father bought it for me, and it was a lot of fun as a plinker. It just doesn't see much range time these days because I'm just not happy with its accuracy. Not being able to hit knockdown rimfire targets with any regularity rather sucked.

MCgunner
May 4, 2010, 11:20 PM
My 10/22 will shoot 1.5" at 50 yards with the iron sights. That's plenty for squirrel hunting or anything I do with it. My Remington bolt gun will do that at 100 yards, though, but hey, the 10/22 is accurate enough. I didn't buy it to shoot Olympic small bore with.

DasFriek
May 5, 2010, 01:06 AM
Have you considered a bolt action?
I have always been a semi auto guy all 39 years of my life. But im sold on BA's now since the accuracy is so much better than a semi auto (generally) out of the box and you save on ammo since you get small mags and have to run the bolt each shot.

Savage makes the MKII series that are amazing guns with triggers many $1000 guns would like to have. Prices go from $200-$500 Make sure it has the accutrigger on it. The 64 doesn't get that option.

A few bucks more will get you a CZ and since ive owned both i can say the CZ have a bit better quality to it, But you pay for it too. The triggers are as good and adjustable like the Savage accutrigger.
Prices: $400-$600 generally.

In semi auto's ive read of people doing amazing feats with Marlin model 60's.

Ive not heard much about the 64, But if its made similar to their bolt actions it should be a great tack driver out of the box.

Gord
May 5, 2010, 02:49 AM
My 64 is a tack driver. I was plinking shotgun shell hulls off the berm the other day at ~150 yards, and one of my favorite summertime hobbies is going out and cutting down wild daisies at the stem with it at 75 or so. So accurate it's almost boring...

ETA: This particular rifle is about a decade old and probably has 10k+ rounds down the tube at this point.

Apple a Day
May 5, 2010, 07:06 AM
I recently bought a 10/22. I've owned a Savage for several years. The Savage is very accurate. I'm just trying to find a cheap scope to put on the Ruger - preferably identical to the one I have on the Savage- to take them both to the range and do a direct comparison. I spent twice as much on the Ruger as the Savage and I'm going to be irate when the Savage does better.
My 100 yard .22 is a Savage Mk II (bolt action).

MCgunner
May 5, 2010, 11:05 AM
.22s just aren't very practical in the real world past 50 yards.. I guess if your "real world" is killing a daisy at 75 yards for supper, but for any practical small game, drop past 50 is such that it requires a foot by foot drop table out at 100 or beyond and an accurate laser rangefinder. My Remington 597 magnum is 1.5 MOA accurate and sighted at 100, is only 2" high at 50. If you like shooting 150 yards, perhaps you need a .17 or .22 mag of some kind.

So, for MY uses, the 10/22 is as accurate as it needs to be. Sure, my old Remington 512X will shoot at 100 what my 10/22 shoots at 50, so what? I'm not going to shoot a squirrel in the field from a field position past 50.

I don't shoot any sort of competition other than informal club shoots one saturday month and, recently, I haven't done that. When we do shoot, it's field grade guns. One fellow brought a Remington target model out one weekend and they disqualified him for cheating. :D I bought my 10/22 mostly just because I wanted it. It's neat. It may not be Anchutz accurate, but I don't care. It's plenty accurate enough. It is totally reliable and I love the rotary magazine thing, haven't much cared for my Remington's tube feed mag over the years, but it's so accurate I overlook that and in the field, it's not a big bother. Holds 15 LRs and that's enough for an all day squirrel hunt without any reloading even if the squirrels are out in mass. :D

The little 10/22 is just a short, handy, lightweight field gun and plinker and rugged in stainless with the Hogue stock. I got it for 150 at a gun show. Like I say, I just WANTED it. It's the only .22 rifle I own that doesn't have a scope on it and I plan to keep it that way. Not everyone buys a .22 rifle for 150 yard plinking. In fact, I know noone that does. :rolleyes: I can hit 12 gauge hulls at 50 with it off hand and 20 gauge hulls at 25. I can't even see the danged things at 150! I suppose I could zoom the scope on my Remington to 9x and work the bullet drop compensator on that scope. I have it marked for 100 yards. I'm not even sure I could give it enough elevation for 150, though. I know it's accurate to 1.5" at 100 on a calm day, seems impressive enough. The 10/22 can't match it, but it's run of the mill average accurate for a plinker. I never really desired a Savage .22, own a 110 in 7mm remington magnum that I could hit a shotgun shell at 300 yards with, but not a .22. The 10/22, though, was desirable. I'll probably get a Marlin, too, sometime or another, but it just doesn't have the desirability of the 10/22 to me. I can't explain it, just like the little thing.

Guvnor
May 5, 2010, 11:53 AM
I was toying with the idea of getting a Savage 64 but I read many reports of frequent jamming with this model so I decided against it. And as previous posters have mentioned, the 64 doesn't feature savage's excellent accutrigger.

Also, there are so many damn parts it looks like you need an engineering degree to field strip the thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rscEBXWUKj4

If you are willing to consider bolt action...I would check out the Savage Mark II. It has the accutrigger and is extremely accurate for the price.

SASS#23149
May 5, 2010, 12:07 PM
Just bought the grand son a 64. took it to the range myself for testing last week,with a scope.the trigger is BEYOND HORRIBLE. very very heavy. took it home,cleaned and lubed everything,it's better now,but still heavy. mags are very hard to load,sharp corners and stout springs. cycles all brands of ammo though, a big + in my book.
IF I really concntrate,I can make shots touch at 50 yards,but that trigger sucks. If I had it to do over,it'd get the bolt action with Accutrigger,or any other model with the Accutrigger. but hey,it's a cheap entry-level model,and will hit pop cans all day,so I'm not too concerned,just passing on what I found. IT will OUTSHOOT my 10-22,but not by much.

there is a 'shimming' trick described on the rimfire site,will try that next.

BushyGuy
May 5, 2010, 12:17 PM
Stevens model 62 is just as good as the Savage 64 , i think the Stevens is better then the Savage 64 in accuracy.

Stevens 62 is a copy of the Savage 64 only cheaper.

WardenWolf
May 5, 2010, 01:38 PM
Uh, you DO realize that Savage and Stevens are the same company, right? And Stevens is generally Savage's lower-end line.

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