Praise for the CZ P01
Min
November 28, 2003, 05:30 PM
I was browsing the magazine rack at Walmart last night and came upon an article on the CZ P01. I forget which magazine it was, but they had some nice things to say about this CZ.
The Czech police had such high requirements for their service pistol that some companies bowed out of the competition. The mean failure rate the US military set was 495 rounds; the Czech set it at 500. When tested, the CZ P01 had a mean failure rate of over 2000! Meaning it only had 7 failures in about 15,000 shots.
The article also stated the CZ P01 passed many torture tests (which I'm guessing might rival that of Glock and HK). It was dropped repeatedly from 1.5 meters, then dropped from a height of 3 meters. It was frozen for 24 hours I believe, and so on I forget all the details. The Czech police also required a minimum service life of 15,000 rounds of +P ammo, but the P01 went through 30,000 rounds no problem, and still going strong.
The company CZ appeared to have set a new standard in making the CZ P01, which they hoped to be a service pistol par excellence to rival those of Glock, and HK.
So, you CZ P01 owners, be proud! I certainly would not mind having one.
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Spot77
November 28, 2003, 05:54 PM
That's good to hear. I have been considering the P01 as my next purchase, and with such a high quality rating coupled with CZ's fair pricing it sure makes the decision a little easier.
I just have to make it through this pesky little holiday season we have round' here.......:neener:
jem375
November 28, 2003, 06:36 PM
I just bought one, haven't taken it to the range yet, waiting for the weather to warm up a little..............also ordered my pancake holster for it, since it will be one of my carry guns............
Ankeny
November 28, 2003, 07:19 PM
The article is in the most recent edition of American Handgunner. Nice write up and great pics.
jdrobins
November 28, 2003, 07:59 PM
jem375,
Once you try this gun you will love it, It compares equally to my Sig 228 in every aspect!
Enjoy the P-01 I know I do!.
Jim
Bahadur
November 28, 2003, 08:12 PM
Is the extractor on the CZ P-01 as prone to crudding as that on CZ-75B?
CZF
November 28, 2003, 09:01 PM
Some MIL moldel 75Bs had problems with extractor springs..that is
now not a problem.
The AM HANDGUNNER jan/feb issue is very complimetary on the P-01.
It ran like any CZ should run..100% with every load, but a load that'
would give any auto fits.
P-01s are even better with a few hundred rounds thru them to smooth
up the action, and Hakan Grips and Nites Sites for a more personal
touch.
The gun might not appeal to everyone, but those who own them
can't say enough good things:)
N3rday
November 28, 2003, 09:27 PM
Sounds great!
Sounds like something I would look into. I want a pistol that I will still be shooting when I am elderly!
Min
November 28, 2003, 10:01 PM
I would buy one but I already have a USPc 9mm that I have determined to be my go-to handgun.
If I was in a market for a self-defense compact 9mm right now I would choose this over:
Beretta 92C
Glock 19
Sig P239
jdrobins
November 28, 2003, 10:08 PM
Min,
After I got the P-01 and shot a couple hundred rounds thru it, I sold my USP9c, it just did not compare!
Can't fault you for the Sig choices though all are good, I still like my P228, but when my hoster arrives my P-01 will be my primary carry weapon.
Jim
robctwo
November 28, 2003, 10:31 PM
I like my CZs: http://homepage.mac.com/robcorl/CZ_pictures/PhotoAlbum34.html
Min
November 28, 2003, 10:35 PM
jdrobins what did you not like about the uspc?
I like the cocked and locked feature and the fact that .40 compact mags also serve as 13-rd 9mm mags.
The CZ P01 is a fine gun, nevertheless.
jdrobins
November 28, 2003, 10:37 PM
Bore axis was a little high for me, and the grip was no comparision to the P-01, I did like the USPc it is a very sweet gun, but I REALLY like this P-01, and I (Wife) have a one in one out gun rule:(
Jim
goon
November 29, 2003, 01:16 AM
I have handled the P-01 and I did find it to be a really cool pistol.
I already own CZs, so I know exactly what I would be getting.
I have two questions for those of you who have them.
Does anyone know of a steel replacement guide rod for them?
Also, I read somewhere that the trigger is made out of plastic.
Say it ain't so,
tomkatz
November 29, 2003, 01:48 AM
Also, I read somewhere that the trigger is made out of plastic. Say it ain't so.
it ain't so;) ......tom
Beetle Bailey
November 29, 2003, 01:57 AM
A buddy of mine is seriously considering the CZ P-01, so I let him shoot my CZ-75 compact (it's the closest I have :rolleyes: ) and he loves it. He also loves my Kadet Kit because he doesn't have a trainer pistol. Does the Kadet Kit work on the P-01 also? I know the P-01 is supposed to be an update on the CZ-75 PCR, but I don't know what is different. I'll let him know the P-01 got good reviews to help push him in the direction of the P-01, but I'm pretty sure he'll get it because I let his GF shoot the compact and she loves it ;) . Thanks for the report.
tomkatz
November 29, 2003, 02:04 AM
The kadet kit will fit the P01, the P01 is basically the same as the pcr but with an accessory rail on the front. Also pretty much the same as the 75 compact, but pcr and P01 have alloy frames....tom
Beetle Bailey
November 29, 2003, 02:09 AM
The kadet kit will fit the P01, the P01 is basically the same as the pcr but with an accessory rail on the front. Also pretty much the same as the 75 compact, but pcr and P01 have alloy frames....tom
Thanks! I'll pass the message on. He'll buy it. The GF kept saying "I like the CZ!" "Get the CZ!" at the range :rolleyes: .
nonquixote
November 29, 2003, 09:40 AM
Min, FYI you can get .40 cal mags for the CZ compact, PCR, and P-01 that hold 14 rounds of 9mm and fit and function perfectly with those guns. Promag makes them based on the specs for a planned CZ compact .40 that CZ never got around to actually manufacturing/exporting. Promag still sells the mags for $25.00 and Natchez is out of stock now but has them listed on sale for $11.88. I have a couple and will get more when Natchez gets them back in stock.
Nonq
PCRCCW
November 29, 2003, 10:23 AM
My favorite gun is the PO1's daddy the PCR. Same gun different frame bla bla bla....................Id take it over most others. The PO1's development was the PCR for the most part.....................
Shoot well..................
Newton
November 29, 2003, 11:39 AM
Just didn't like the feel of it.
It is a nice compact size though.
George Hill
November 29, 2003, 11:41 AM
P01 = I'd get one. I saw that article too.
That frame... reminds me of an Alpha Romeo.
goon
November 29, 2003, 01:37 PM
My understanding from above is as follows.
CZ 40 caliber compact mags will hold, what, 13 rounds and work with the P-01, right?
Two more questions for those of you who know more than me.
Will full size CZ-75 9mm Hi-caps fit the CZ-75 compact, P-01, PCR, etc.?
Will the compact 40 mags work the CZ-75 compact 9mm?
I have been thinking about a P-01 or a CZ-75 Compact, and this thread reminded me about that desire.
Thanks.
cookhj
November 29, 2003, 02:18 PM
i'm gonna keep waiting till they make the P-01 in .40. HOPEFULLY i won't have to wait too much longer.
tomkatz
November 29, 2003, 03:07 PM
goon......there are no .40 compact/P01/pcr guns.......the fullsize 75B mags will work just fine they just hang out the bottom a bit......there are 14 round hi-cap factory mags that fit flush available for the compact/pcr/P01 series of guns, and they don't really cost that much, I paid around $40 a pop for mine for my pcr. If you get one of these guns ask around here and you will be directed as to where to get them. I love these cz guns BTW:cool: ......tom
Newton
November 29, 2003, 04:28 PM
That frame... reminds me of an Alpha Romeo.
Yes, I've heard they rust easily too ;)
PCRCCW
November 29, 2003, 05:32 PM
Newton,
The PO1 frame is Alloy..............:neener:
And they havent made a 40 Compact yet...but Promag made mags for the gun before CZ made one....thus mags exist and work.
Shoot well.
Kestrel
November 29, 2003, 11:34 PM
How much do the P01s usually sell for? Is there anything about the P01 that's better than the CZ-75 Compact?
Mike at CZ told me they were supposed to be bringing in the CZ-75 Compact in .40 sometime next year... sigh... (when???) Since the mags are limited in capacity in the compact, the .40 sounds appealing.
Steve
tomkatz
November 29, 2003, 11:51 PM
Steve.....the P01 has an alloy frame so it is lighter, and has an accessory rail, the PCR is the same gun, alloy frame no rail, there are factory 14 round mags available for the 9mm so no capacity limit in any of the smaller cz guns.......I paid $409.00 for my PCR, today I saw a P01 at a local shop here for $429.00......tom
nonquixote
November 29, 2003, 11:56 PM
I guess P-01's normally go for about $400-$450. The main differences between the P-01 and the CZ Compact are that the P-01 has an alloy frame so is lighter, has a decocker instead of a safety so can't be carried cocked and locked, and has the integral accessory rail. I actually prefer the PCR over the other compact CZ's slightly, as it is very similar to the P-01 but is easier to conceal without the accessory rail which I wouldn't use anyway. Also, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, .40 cal mags are available from Promag that fit these guns and hold 14 rounds of 9mm.
Nonq
LOL, tom beat me...
BTW, I got my PCR for $390 from my local shop
tomkatz
November 30, 2003, 12:55 AM
nonquixote is right, I always forget that the compact has the cocked and locked capability, that can be a plus to some;).......btw, I bought my third cz today, a cz40, when I stopped into my local shop they had just gotten 10 of them in, $269.00, I couldn't resist:rolleyes: ....they sold eight of them today as of 3pm. So let's see, a pcr, a 75b, and a cz40, gotta get that kadet kit next, then when the RAMI comes out....HELP!!!!!......tom
nonquixote
November 30, 2003, 06:30 AM
Luckily, (?) my shop hasn't had the CZ40 in stock lately, or I might find it hard to pass up as well. I'm also probably going to get the Kadet kit soon, but I'm not really wowed by the RAMI, I don't prefer subcompact pistols. If they finally release a CZ Compact or PCR in .40 however...
Nonq
tomkatz
November 30, 2003, 02:45 PM
Nonq......I like to keep a small gun or two around, the pcr displaced my glock 19 and I sold it. I'm wondering if the RAMI can do the same to my glock 27. I still like my kahr mk9 for extra small carry gun, but these cz guns have beat out glocks and, dare I say it, even sigs for me. I can't say enough good things about them;) .....tom
jdrobins
November 30, 2003, 06:59 PM
Tomkatz,
I am like you and the CZ taking over the Sig's, I too am liking my CZ P-01 more than my Sig P228, and since I have a PCR on order I figure that the regular 75b or Tactical will be next.
Jim
nonquixote
November 30, 2003, 07:28 PM
I can't say enough about them either. Although I'm fairly new to CZs almost all my range time in the last 6 months has been using my PCR and 97B, about 4000 rounds worth total. My other guns have become gunsafe ballast. The fit and finish are very good, I think they are great looking guns, and while some others feel just about as good to grip, usually at a much higher price, none have felt better to me. Yeah, I'm hooked.
Nonq
goon
December 1, 2003, 08:00 PM
I have a P-225 and a CZ-75BD.
For what it is worth, the CZ will work with ammo that the SIG misfires with.
;)
Ky Larry
December 1, 2003, 10:55 PM
Shot my PCR today (250 rnds) and I like it better every time I take it to the range. The more I shoot it the slicker it gets. It's the only gun I would consider replacing my CCW Kimber Custom Defender with. I also have a CZ-75BD 9mm, a CZ-75B .40 S&W, and a CZ-83 .380 ACP. They all eat anything I feed them and are very accurate. You can spend more money on a gun, but you won't get more gun for your money.
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