SIG, S&W, other?


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JWF III
May 21, 2010, 07:36 PM
I'm considering the purchase of a new carry weapon. I'm looking for a single stack 9mm, metal frame, DA/SA (aka TDA), compact size.

Options that I'm considering so far are...

Sig 239
S&W 3913/3914/908

If you have any other ideas that would fit my description, I'm all ears.

Thanks in advance,
Wyman

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The Lone Haranguer
May 21, 2010, 10:00 PM
The 3913 is my favorite S&W, and one of my favorite handguns, period. I had a P239 and it was 100% reliable, but it had an oddity in the trigger that I could not get used to.

cwbjaxfl
May 21, 2010, 10:49 PM
cant go wrong with a sig p239

RonAMOK
May 22, 2010, 12:09 AM
I voted other, with the Kahr K9, my first choice, or T9 and Sig 225/P6 in mind.

REAPER4206969
May 22, 2010, 12:20 AM
I'm looking for a single stack 9mm, metal frame, DA/SA (aka TDA), compact size.
You're really limiting your options.

oasis618
May 22, 2010, 12:22 AM
Those Smiths are great guns!

JWF III
May 22, 2010, 09:29 AM
You're really limiting your options.

That's the point. After carrying guns I already own (1911A1, PP, Jframe, K frame... ). Just none of them are ideal (or even a good compromise) for year round carry. I started with a wide field, and that's what I've come to settle on... For now.

Also, I live in central GA. Shorts and T-shirts are the general rule 8 months out of the year. I work in the home construction industry (well it used to be an industry), so that is my everyday dress. If I lived further north and had to wear a parka 8 or 9 months of the year, or if I worked in air conditioned space and wore a suit everyday, I would choose differently. But I have reasons behind each of my requirements. Some are obvious, some are just personal preferrence.

Wyman

hammerclaw56
May 22, 2010, 09:52 AM
M&P 45 fs or M&P 357 sig FS

Rule3
May 22, 2010, 10:36 AM
Either/or. I carried the 239(in 40SW) for a while. It is a bit heavier than the 3913. I vote for the 239 though as I love my Sigs.

For another option, alloy frame have you looked at the CZ 75 D PCR compact?

More I shoot it the more I like it. Fits the hand well, higher capacity than the 239 and is very light. Accurate also.!

19-3Ben
May 22, 2010, 12:52 PM
I voted other, with the Kahr K9, my first choice, or T9 and Sig 225/P6 in mind.

I voted for the S&W because you can find GREAT prices right now on the used 3rd gen pistols and because they are insanely reliable and accurate guns.
But I have to say, I LOVE my K40. If you are looking for a slim, small, all steel, single-stack 9mm/40, the Kahr K series is really hard to beat.

Edit: I missed the DA/SA thing. If you are willing to compromise and go with a really incredibly smooth striker fire, the Kahr is awesome.

Nushif
May 22, 2010, 01:28 PM
I'd really have you reconsider the DA/SA bit.
Recently I got myself a single stack 9mm that is a dream to shoot and light.
It's the Colt New Agent in 9mm. But is a SA.

JWF III
May 22, 2010, 07:03 PM
Little more info...

I'd really have you reconsider the DA/SA bit.
Recently I got myself a single stack 9mm that is a dream to shoot and light.
It's the Colt New Agent in 9mm. But is a SA.


SA I could do. I just said DA/SA because I do love the feel of my Walther PP. I just want something more than 7 rounds of .32 ACP. I just never really liked the whole striker fired thing. (I may be old school, but I like having either a manual safety, or a true DA first shot pull. But I'm not a fan of DAO:banghead:.)

All steel is not a requirement. I love my Scandium alloy S&W 360. (Even with magnums.) It's just the molded in texture of polymer always feels slick to me. Like I need to spray some "stick-um" on the grip. I even tried a Hogue slip-on grip on my former Glock. It helped for about 1 range trip, then it was slicker than the stock grip.

Wyman

ETA-have you looked at the CZ 75 D PCR compact
Thanks, I'll have to look into that one. Measurements are close to the other two. Now I just have to find a stocking dealer around these parts, so I can see how it feels.

ozmosis
May 22, 2010, 07:11 PM
Although its a double stack, a CZ P-01 with the aluminum grips are just as concealable as a single stack. Or a S&W 642 stub nose if its really hot and it slips into shorts easily.

grimjaw
May 22, 2010, 07:34 PM
My personal experience with the 239 was positive. It's just kind of large for being a single stack 9mm. If you're willing to carry a hand gun that large you might consider the CZ PCR, although I preferred the trigger on the SIG over the CZ.

I have no personal experience with the 3913 but I hear good things.

REAPER4206969
May 22, 2010, 08:36 PM
I live in central GA. Shorts and T-shirts are the general rule 8 months out of the year. I work in the home construction industry
The SIG will turn into a rusty POS in a week.

Ala Dan
May 23, 2010, 12:03 AM
I had too vote with my heart, as my brain listens too its advice- and that
told me that my everyday CCW piece should be in this order:

Smith & Wesson model 39-2 in 9m/m, as it was used to silence
enemy guard dogs and sentry's in Viet-Nam by Navy SEAL teams, with
great success.

West German SIG-SAUER P228 in 9m/m, as it was used until just
recently by the BATFE division of the internal revenue dept, and by
U.S. Park Rangers nationwide. Great firaearms, perfectly balanced,
with 13 rd magazines on their duty belt~! :D

Kahr CW-9 in 9m/m used as my primary BUG; even when CCW'ing one
of the other two. :)

easyg
May 23, 2010, 06:49 AM
Kahr.

DAVIDTWATSON
May 23, 2010, 07:40 AM
JWF, I have 2 of each; a 239 in .40 and .357 Sig, a 239 Tactical in 9mm, a 3913, and a 3913 LS I just picked up for my wife. All are set up with night sights, the first Sig also has CT grips. I have carrried them all, and must say that each of them fit me well with Don Hume IWB holsters. Size being pretty equal (the 3913's ARE slimmer), it comes down to caliber for me. Is 9 rounds of 9mm in the Smiths enough gun to carry for you, or would you feel more comfortable with 8 rounds of .40 or .357 Sig?? Personally, I carry the Sig with either Black Talons in .40 or Gold dots in .357. The CT grips work very well for me.... The only other thing to consider for me would be condition of a 3913 that hasn't been made for quite a while, as opposed to a Sig, which although on the expensive side, is obviously still available new. I picked up the Tactical from CDNN Sports with ns AND the Short Reset Trigger, for $600 nib! Good Luck, DTW

Rxster
May 23, 2010, 07:48 AM
Had a 908, would not hesitate to carry it. Would like to find another sometime. Holster options are kind of limited though.

SigP229R
May 23, 2010, 09:48 PM
I voted for the 239 simply because I have had experience with the 229 and not the smith. I do however own a 5903 TSW and they are both fine weapons.Good luck on whatever you choose.

Ky Larry
May 24, 2010, 01:28 AM
Sorry. Misread your post.

smartshooter.45
May 24, 2010, 02:50 AM
i voted other. its 1 of 5 depending.

5" 1911
4.25" 1911
3.5" 1911
p238
pf9

Arthur2001
May 24, 2010, 04:36 AM
Dear JWF II, you wrote;

".. I'm looking for a single stack 9mm, metal frame, DA/SA (aka TDA), compact size.."

How you forget Sig Sauer P 225. This is a "cult". So I voted for P225. One of the best single stack 9 mm. in the market.

Cheers,

Surefire
May 25, 2010, 12:45 AM
Sig 239

winchester '97
May 25, 2010, 10:57 PM
Star model B all the way, Supposedly accurate enough to cloverleaf 50 foot groups and cheap too, with a little working over all of the Tokarev 9mm conversions are exellent guns.

slicksleeve
May 25, 2010, 11:45 PM
I say go for the Sig 239. I love those things and plan to own one someday. The problem is, every time I get a little money saved up, I find some old Smith and Wesson revolver that needs a home really bad. (I'm a sucker for a homeless pet, excuse me, homeless revolver.)

rellascout
May 25, 2010, 11:51 PM
If you can find one the FNP-9m is a hell of a gun for under $400

Technical Data
FNP9-M DA/SA
• Caliber 9x19mm NATO
• Trigger mechanism DA/SA with decocking lever
• Trigger pull DA : 4.5 to 5.0 kg SA : 1.8 to 2.3 kg
• Trigger travel DA : 12mm SA 4.0mm
• Weight w. empty mag 709 g (2.0 lb)
• Weight fully loaded 885 g (2.0 lb)
• Magazine capacity 15 rounds
• Overall length 180 mm
• Height 130 mm
• Width 34 mm
• Barrel length 101.6 mm
• Safeties Firing pin safety / Locking safety/Manual safety (SA only)
• Options Magazine diconnect - upwards manual safety (DA/SA) lanyard-ring - holsters (duty, concealed, tactical,...)
• Accessory rail
MIL-STD 1913 (Picatinny)
• Fixed sights : standard optional 3-dot white tritium night sights

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/FNM0053.jpg

Armedleprechaun
May 26, 2010, 04:30 AM
I think you're limiting yourself a bit too much. I would also consider something like a Glock 26. However, if you don't feel safe carrying a Glock I would give the XD 9 subcompact a look. The XD has a grip safety along with a trigger safety similar to Glock. Both the XD and Glock are extremely reliable. They also offer conceal-ability along with higher round capacity. Hope this helps, good luck!

JWF III
June 5, 2010, 06:51 PM
Just wanted to give it a bump to hear from anybody else that hasn't weighed in.

I'll let it die after this one bump.

The problem is, every time I get a little money saved up, I find some old Smith and Wesson revolver that needs a home really bad.

My problem exactly.:banghead:

Thanks, Wyman

wow6599
June 5, 2010, 09:32 PM
M&P 45 fs or M&P 357 sig FS
Single stack 9mms......:scrutiny:

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