Snub Nose 45 Colt ???


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mothermopar
May 25, 2010, 05:31 PM
Is there a Snub Nose 45 Colt DA revolver (@ 2" barrel) out there? I've searched, but no dice.

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MachIVshooter
May 25, 2010, 06:12 PM
Step one: Buy S&W 25

Step two: Take to gunsmith and have barrel lobbed and sight reinstalled on shorter tube.

I don't know that you could get to 2", though, with the ejector rod. May need to be shortened, which would make it less functional. You'd end up with alot of money it it, all said and done.

Otherwise, nothing that I'm aware of. .44 Special, yes, but not .45 Colt.

There is the 2.75" 325 (.45 ACP). .45 Auto will perform as well as standard pressure .45 Colt loads in that short tube. And it's cheaper.

A Uberti top-break .45 Colt shortened would be kinda cool, though. Still SA, but faster to load than a SAA type. This is the 3.5" model:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/uberti/uberti_no3_2ndmodel_3.jpg

surjimmy
May 25, 2010, 06:36 PM
I have a Taurus M450, it has a 2in ported barrel. They are kind of hard to find, so except to pay. (This is not the Judge) it will not shoot 410 rounds.

reloaderralph
May 25, 2010, 06:47 PM
Mothermopar;
Try the Taurus model 450 ultra lite. Mine has a 2" ported barrel and shoots where it's pointed at 15yds. with Winchester 250gr. LFN cowboy action load.
reloaderralph

jmortimer
May 25, 2010, 07:47 PM
I have a Taurus "Total Titanium" Model 450 with 2" ported barrel in .45 Colt. It weighs 19 ounces and is +P rated unlike the Judge. Unlike the titanium Taurus Model 85 I owned and dumped it has proven to be a great gun and a keeper for sure.

savit260
May 25, 2010, 08:52 PM
Is there a Snub Nose 45 Colt DA revolver (@ 2" barrel) out there? I've searched, but no dice.

There are a few people on the forums that have cut down Colt New Services. They may be the .45 ACP version, but there's no reason you couldn't do the same thing to one in .45 Colt.

mothermopar
May 26, 2010, 12:49 AM
Thanks folks... I just like the idea of a bigbore snub... If 45 Colt is hard to find outside of the Taurus, what 44 mag/44 special ones are being produced?

*yes I'm going down in caliber, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do!

MachIVshooter
May 26, 2010, 04:14 AM
If 45 Colt is hard to find outside of the Taurus, what 44 mag/44 special ones are being produced?

That Taurus model is discontinued, which is why I didn't list it.

The first .44 Special snub that comes to mind is the Charter Bulldog (http://charterarms.com/products/Charter_Bulldog_74420.html), a 2.5" 5-shot DA.

If you can find it, the L-frame S&W 396 (alloy) 696 (stainless) and 296 (alloy DAO) were very nice 5-round .44 Specials. They're all out of production, though.

However, if you don't find an N-frame too large, there are alloy .44 mags, like the standard 6-shot 329 NightGuard (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765945_-1_757770_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y)

1858
May 26, 2010, 05:30 AM
Is there a Snub Nose 45 Colt DA revolver (@ 2" barrel) out there? I've searched, but no dice.

Sure there is ... it just happens to accept the .454 Casull cartridge as well!! :D And the barrel is 2-1/2" long rather than 2" but who's counting?!

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/revolvers/super_redhawk/photos/srh_alaskan_01.jpg

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/revolvers/super_redhawk/photos/srh_alaskan_05.jpg

:)

Oyeboten
May 26, 2010, 06:42 AM
Hi 1858,

I gotta say -

That is one good looking Revolver there.

1858
May 26, 2010, 06:48 AM
I gotta say - That is one good looking Revolver there.

You won't get any argument from me on that :D ... when I first saw one I knew I had to have one ... it's a real shooter too. First time to the range a few weeks ago with some .454 Casull loads and the first six shots (all DA) out of the new revolver landed on an 8" paper plate at 25 yards! Not bad for a 2-1/2" barrel and 29.0gr of H110 behind a 300gr Oregon Trail FP bullet. Impressed me and my shooting buddy. Recoil is VERY manageable and certainly nothing to whine about.

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/revolvers/super_redhawk/photos/srh_alaskan_08.jpg

:)

Stainz
May 26, 2010, 07:54 AM
S&W's Performance Center produced the absurd looking Al/Sc framed 1.88" barrel 625-11 about five years ago in .45 Colt. With only a hundred or so made, don't expect to find one easily - or inexpensively. They look like the similar barrel 625-10 in .45 ACP.

Stainz

MachIVshooter
May 26, 2010, 10:19 AM
S&W's Performance Center produced the absurd looking Al/Sc framed 1.88" barrel 625-11 about five years ago in .45 Colt. With only a hundred or so made, don't expect to find one easily - or inexpensively. They look like the similar barrel 625-10 in .45 ACP.

I remember those. They did it with the 327 as well (still available).

http://calzaretta.com/scans/625%20pair.jpg

mothermopar
May 26, 2010, 01:42 PM
I saw the Ruger Alaskan... but figured it was 'too much gun' for my purposes... now I'm reconsidering! That is a GREAT looking revolver my friend.

How does it compare in size to the other snub noses mentioned here (44 Charter, S&W)???

***I"m really envisioning that Alaskan with some nice wood stocks...***

1858
May 26, 2010, 02:48 PM
I saw the Ruger Alaskan... but figured it was 'too much gun' for my purposes... now I'm reconsidering! That is a GREAT looking revolver my friend.

How does it compare in size to the other snub noses mentioned here (44 Charter, S&W)???

***I"m really envisioning that Alaskan with some nice wood stocks...***

Thanks ... but I can't be of any help with regards to how the Alaskan compares to the 44 Charter or S&W in terms of size since I've never handled any of the other revolvers mentioned here. It's easy enough to compare the weights of the revolvers but that doesn't tell the whole story. What's your intended use for the revolver? You mentioned that you "like the idea of a bigbore snub" which makes me think that you won't be using it for concealed carry so size may or may not be an issue.

Wood grips would certainly look a lot nicer than the Hogue grips that come standard on the Alaskan but they'd probably be prohibitively uncomfortable for hot .45 Colt loads or any .454 Casull loads.

:)

mothermopar
May 26, 2010, 03:29 PM
Primary use for a snub would be home defense... to compliment the Colt 1911... if I had the Alaskan, she'd be loaded with 45 Colt... probably would only shoot 454 out of it at the range "just because it can".

I'm a few months away from buying a Colt Single Action Army in 45 Colt, but wanted a more practical defensive frame/action revolver for my wife to use as well. Being a DA, this Alaskan would be relatively easy for the wife to shoot, should the need arise, with standard 45 Colt loadings suitable for HD applications.

The 454 capabilities would be for 'showing off' LOL.

I'm not rich, so I'm trying to keep my weapons of the same caliber (45 Colt/45 ACP).

1858
May 26, 2010, 03:39 PM
Do you reload? If you go the .45 Colt route, it REALLY helps to reload since you'll have so many more options open to you. I don't plan on shooting any .45 Colt loads in my Alaskan but a CAS .45 Colt load would be good for home defense I'm sure. A 250gr lead bullet moving at 800 to 900 fps would be very easy on the shooter but more than enough to stop a home invasion.

As for shooting .454 Casull loads ... it's no big deal, and in fact, it's a lot of fun. I just wish that Marlin made a '94 or '95 in .454 Casull.

I'm not rich, so I'm trying to keep my weapons of the same caliber (45 Colt/45 ACP).

The Alaskan can be had for around $750 so it's a lot of revolver for the money. Just make sure that the wife finds it ergonomic too if she intends to use it.

:)

mothermopar
May 26, 2010, 04:54 PM
She's been able to accurately fire glocks in the past and my Colt 1911 well... none of which are small framed weapons. She's all center mass shots up to 7-10 yards (plenty good for HD purposes).

I'd consider reloading, but it takes time... and my 2 year old son (and wife) ain't willing to share time with anyone! LOL

I have been thinking about one of those one-caliber reloading kits you need a mallet to seat the bullets with...

Daizee
May 26, 2010, 05:25 PM
If it's for HD and not CCW, then why not a proper 4" barrel?
More velocity, and sight radius.
Less noise, blast, and recoil.

The only rationale for a 2" handgun is for easy carrying or entertainment. By all other metrics, a full service-length barrel exceeds it in a big way.


-Daizee

MachIVshooter
May 26, 2010, 06:55 PM
How does it compare in size to the other snub noses mentioned here (44 Charter, S&W)???

The SRH frame is bested only by the X-frame Smith as DA's go. It's big. Tonight when I get home I'll do comparative photos between a SRH, an N-frame, L-frame, K frame, SP-101 and J-frame. No GP-100 (same size as L-frame), and my security-six (between K and L frame) is living with my folks.

Have your wife hold them before you buy. She may find it too large. Even the N-frame S&W's are too big for many females to shoot comfortably, especially in DA mode. The five-shot Charter .44 is about L-frame size, which just about any adult can handle.

mothermopar
May 26, 2010, 07:12 PM
Daizee,

Understood. This gun will be a backup to a backup (1st: 12 gauge, 2nd: Colt 1911, 3rd: snubnose)... so your point is totally valid... I'm biased towards the shorter barrels is all. My Colt 1911 is 5", my planned Colt SAA will be 5.5"... want something different, yet still effective and handy.

Also, folks, I just noticed SW has a 2.6" model 629 in 44 Mag (would use 44 specials) that looks quite nice, from the performance center.

Rexster
May 26, 2010, 07:13 PM
When the time is financially right for me, a Ruger SRH Alaskan in .454/.45 is on my short list. I will install a Ruger GP100 grip. While I like the S&W 625, the reach from backstrap to trigger is a bit much, unless the grip panels are VERY narrow, and in that case, recoil has a concentrated edge to slam into my skinny hand. (Been there, done that, with a Model 25 "Effector" snubby, distributed by John Jovino in the mid-1980s.) The Alaskan has a trigger reach of GP100 dimensions.

The Lone Haranguer
May 26, 2010, 07:43 PM
This is in current production: 325 Night Guard (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765946_-1_757770_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) It has a 2 5/8" barrel, not a true two-inch, but I think it looks better proportioned. A few years ago - possibly through the Performance Center - there was a lightweight frame, true two-inch .45, somewhat resembling this Model 327 (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764974_-1_757770_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y), but its model number escapes me.

MachIVshooter
May 27, 2010, 01:12 AM
OK, as promised:

Super Redhawk, S&W 629-2, S&W 686, S&W 65-3, Ruger SP-101, S&W 37

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/SANY0025.jpg

OK, dimensions

I know in the photo, the 629 actually looks bulkier than the SRH. It's an illusion from the short barrel.

From the top of the inside of the trigger guard to the top of the top strap, the numbers are in the order the revolvers are pictured:

-2.69"
-2.48"
-2.37"
-2.23"
-2.07"
-1.96"

The more important number is the reach. The Hogues on the 629, 65-3 and SP-101, as well as the Pachmayrs on the 686, make them slightly thicker than original grips were. But anyway, measured from center of trigger (both axis) in a straight line back to the center of the grip, they are as follows (rounded to the nearest .1"):

-5.0"
-4.8"
-4.8"
-4.7"
-4.4"
-4.2"

Hope this helps!

there was a lightweight frame, true two-inch .45, somewhat resembling this Model 327, but its model number escapes me.

It was a 625, like the ones I posted an image for above. Very silly looking, IMO. N-frames just shouldn't have barrels that short.

Oyeboten
May 27, 2010, 01:39 AM
Colt 'New Service' Model of 1917, for the .45 ACP Cartridge.

Barrel had been Hack Sawed off, but, was otherwise original and somewhat worn and pitted when I got it. So I tidied up the Barrel, changed the shape of the Grip...made some Walrus Ivory Stocks, Bobbed the Hammer, and checkered the Back Strap in an Art Moderne sort of way, draw Filed and sanded and polished and re-blued it.


http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/208_78/109_198/Porkchop.jpg (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/208_78/109_198/Porkchop.jpg)



Fired some old Hardball through the Chronograph recently with it.

Averages were around 650 FPS.

I dug some of the Hardball Bullets out of the Earth Berm, and, noticed they had only very faint and partial lines for where the Rifeling impress should be.


Did some Measurements of the Bore, and, the Cylinder Bores, and, realized .45 ACP as it usually is, is in fact way too small for these respective diameters.


I will begin to deferentially Load for it then, using far fatter Bullets, and, 'Lead' ones also.

Probably they will need to be around .455, maybe .456...


This might just bring the FPS 'up' a ways, also.


Anyway, Frame was de-blued to affix a new Front Sight in like 1990...I would like to do a Half-Round Front sight instead, and, re-re-Blue it. Then it will be finally 'finished'.


Used to carry it off and on in my Pants Pocket or in a Shoulder Holster I made for it back when...it's a lot of fun.

MichaelB
May 27, 2010, 12:56 PM
Nice job, too bad Colt will not likely make a run of these, they'd sell like the proverbial hot cakes. I have a 45 Colt New Service out for bobbing and rounding and will post when it arrives. Even at 750 fps or so the terminal effect a 250-gr 45 Colt lead bullet or the Gold Dot cannot be downplayed.

sublime167
May 27, 2010, 01:11 PM
Funny, I also have a 1917 at a gunsmith right now getting snub nosed and the hammer bobbed. I also might have him make a set of grips for it.

clang
May 27, 2010, 02:31 PM
Here is my S&W .455 Hand Ejector that was converted to .45 Colt and had the barrel shortened:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/clang444/455-45ColtLeft.jpg
I still have to do something about the hokey front site, but I really like this gun - it means serious business.

mothermopar
May 27, 2010, 03:04 PM
Mach,

First, nice collection! Second, thanks for taking the time to take the picture and measurements!

That really helped me get a better grasp for comparison's sake.

Oyeboten
May 28, 2010, 05:36 AM
Thank you MichaelB,


Oh yeah, if Colt had any imagination or interest in making cool Revolvers again, they would do very well...and with variations for them, like .45 ACP 'Snubbies', everyone would have fun.


Good luck with your 1917 Snubulator and make sure to post some pics when you get it back.



You too sublime 167..!


Lovely S&W there clang..!


What to you mean 'Hokey front Sight'..?


Looks like a half-round to me, which in my view, is about as good as it can get.


Wow...Three in a row there! Maybe four if mine is counted...

mothermopar
May 28, 2010, 10:09 PM
How much would it cost to convert the 2 5/8" SW 629 to 45 Colt? Where in the heck would I get it done?

Buck Snort
May 28, 2010, 10:52 PM
Hi 1858,

I gotta say -

That is one good looking Revolver there.
AND, I've read one account of where a guy saved his bacon during a bear attack with that very item.

Cocked & Locked
May 28, 2010, 11:05 PM
I'd like to have a .45 Colt snub gun. Until that day I enjoy my .45 ACP Colt snub.

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/330374854.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/330374847.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/330374846.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/330374837.jpg

kenno
May 28, 2010, 11:31 PM
Yeah, a 45ACP duplicates the 45 Colt, which is a bear to handload due to it's thin case wall, 44Spl is Far better.
so stick with a 45 ACP, or a 44spl

MichaelB
May 28, 2010, 11:58 PM
When did the 45 Colt become a bear to load? In my experience the case walls are anything but thin.

mgkdrgn
May 29, 2010, 11:28 AM
When did the 45 Colt become a bear to load? In my experience the case walls are anything but thin.
I was rather curious about that statement myself. 45 Colt has got to be about the easiest, most versatile hand load there is going. Big, easy to handle straight wall case, large primers, bullet ranges from 150gr to 300+, and a recipe -somewhere- for just about every powder type ever produced.

shoot2kill
May 30, 2010, 12:14 AM
I have a Colt New Service which has a 2 & 1/2 inch barrel and says Colt New Service .455 Eley Webly & is DA, blue 2 1/2 " barrel & has B.N.W.M.P. covered by the grip. It shoots the .45 ACP round and is very accurate. I only wish it were as beautiful as Oyeboten's New Service revolver is.

Anyone have any idea what it might be worth as I was considering selling it?

rdrancher
May 30, 2010, 01:42 AM
Without pics it doesn't exist. ;)

rd

shoot2kill
May 30, 2010, 10:39 AM
Here are a couple pictures I just took. This isn't an ankle carry pistol as you can see. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Lives2hunt/100_1432.jpg
IMG]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Lives2hunt/100_1431.jpg[/IMG]

Old John
May 30, 2010, 10:46 AM
I have a Taurus 2", .45 Colt, that I picked up 6 or 7 years go for about $250.
It is the heavier version with non-adjustable sights. I do not know what Model it is....
maybe 450 or 455 or something. Anyone know??

I've carried it some. but it's fatter than my SP101, and doesn't conceal quite as easily.
Still, it is a mighty Comforting sidearm to have. I'd never part with it.

shoot2kill
May 30, 2010, 10:55 AM
Only one picture came through so here is another. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Lives2hunt/100_1431.jpg

3845
May 30, 2010, 11:48 AM
Clang:
I think the front sight is in character for that piece, as it looks now. I had a Smith 1917 shortened to 2 1/2 " 20 years or so ago but had a M19 front sight put on it. It just never looked right to me. I ended up replacing the barrel once again, with an original 5 1/2 " specimen.
Nice looking "retro" revolver!
All of them are BTW. Not to slight any, they are great.

rdrancher
May 30, 2010, 01:10 PM
Thanks shoot2kill! Nice piece and a really fun thread.

rd

MachIVshooter
May 30, 2010, 02:53 PM
How much would it cost to convert the 2 5/8" SW 629 to 45 Colt? Where in the heck would I get it done?

Well, you're looking at cylinder reaming and barrel replacement. I'd think it'd be more cost effective to start with a 625 and have a 629 cylinder installed and reamed, and the barrel forcing cone redone after shortening it to fit the longer cylinder.

Cheaper still would be to start with a model 25 and just cut it down, like I suggested in the very beginning. If you're sold on the stainless look, have it matte hard chromed.

savit260
May 30, 2010, 03:14 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Lives2hunt/100_1432.jpg

I <3 this revolver!

whitecoyote
May 30, 2010, 05:07 PM
Not a .45 Colt, but a .45 ACP.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2it4zfn.jpg

MichaelB
May 30, 2010, 10:10 PM
Savit260, that early NS looks so right with that barrel length and front sight. Well done!

I posted this on another forum and got no response. Mebbe here... Sitting at my bench, I happened to look at my 325PD and a box of 45 Colt Speer 250 gr GDHPs. Hmmmmm.....Placing one of the cartridges against the cylinder (no, it did not fit within....) and....it might JUST fit if reamed out. Reaming the Ti cylinder is out of the question, but I wonder about reaming the stainless cylinder of the 325 Night Guard to 45 Colt?

The 45 Colt measures 0.480 at the head; the 45 ACP is slightly smaller at 0.476 in. The cylinder width of my 625 in 45 Colt measures 1.710; the 325 PD measures 1.718. The 625 cylinder wall is 0.068 thick over the cylinder notch; the 325PD is 0.074 inch.

The 625 MG cylinder is 1.670 inches long; the 325PD cylinder is 1.541 inches long.

The 250 gr Speer GDHP measures right at 1.530 inches from the inside rim to the bullet nose. The width of the 45 Colt rim is 0.580; that of the ACP is 0.573.

So, AT A SUPERFICIAL LEVEL, the conversion looks feasible. Thoughts?
Or has this already been tried and failed/succeeded?

shoot2kill
May 31, 2010, 12:53 PM
Oyeboten I love your New Service revolver and everything you did on it. How is the recoil? Mine is so heavy that it isn't bad at all.

Sam71
May 31, 2010, 08:33 PM
I think what you have there is a Colt New Service revolver originally supplied to the Royal North West Mounted Police in Canada in .455 caliber sometime before that organization became known as the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. I'm not sure when that occurred, but I know that the RCMP later bought Colt New Services in .45 colt, so I'm thinking that it was between the world wars sometime. As far as value, I'm afraid that almost all of the collector value left with the front 3" of barrel and the original grips. Not much finish left there, either. I recently bought a similar gun, a cut down Colt model 1909, I paid $350, and some might think I paid too much. That being said, its a very cool peice and you should shoot it and be happy. I have 7 of the big Colt DAs and they are great guns.

shoot2kill
May 31, 2010, 11:30 PM
Sam, Thanks for all the terrific information on the history of my revolver. As I said I am really impressed with the accuracy of this revolver. How about posting a picture of your Colt 1909? Thanks again my friend.

Oyeboten
June 1, 2010, 12:19 AM
Hi shoot2kill,

That is one lovely old Colt.

I would not change anything about it.

Mine, was pitted and had been roughly sanded on, and did not have a mellow honest 'patina' on it, or I would have left it be, even if maybe still going the modifications I did, if it had been mellow and 'grey' I would have left that be, and not re-blued it.

Recoil wise, mine is kinda hefty...seems to me anyway ( or to others who have shot it ).


I need to re-load for mine deferentially though, I just realized recently, since the Barrel Bore and Cylinder Bores are too large for .45 ACP as it usually is.

So...fatter Bullets for this one!

mothermopar
July 28, 2010, 10:43 PM
Would it be possible to have a model 25 chopped up to look similar to these 625-11's?! How about a 629 PC snubbie in 44 mag refitted to 45 Colt?!

What would be more efficient?! More plausible?!

I remember those. They did it with the 327 as well (still available).

http://calzaretta.com/scans/625%20pair.jpg

Lucky Derby
July 28, 2010, 11:48 PM
For those considering the .45ACP to .45 colt conversion, S&W made a run of .45 colts with a cylinder the legnth of an ACP cylinder. M25-3. They work fine except with some ammo OAL was a problem. That's why they eventually made the 25-5 in .45 Colt. If you can find a 25-3 cylinder you can have it fit to your existing 25/625 and have interchangable cylinders to shoot both ACP and Colt ammo.

goodtime
July 28, 2010, 11:57 PM
I understand you specified Double Action, but this one is just plain bad:

http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/snubnose.asp

If someone already mentioned it, I missed it.

mothermopar
July 29, 2010, 12:02 AM
Goodtime,

Thanks for the link! Colt has their sheriff/storekeeper models too. They are nice, but I'm thinking DA. My SA will be a Colt SAA with a 5.5" barrel.

Oyeboten
July 29, 2010, 12:50 AM
I did load up some trial .45 Colt Cartridges for mine...mostly Black Powder, some '777', and, some using 10 Grains of 'Unique' and a 230 Grain 'SEACO' Full Wadcutter.

Clocked like 840-0dd FPS with the latter, which is not bad for a 2 inch Barrel.

I got scolded a little bit for this by wiser Heads, who felt my loading was a little too 'peppy'.


I pointed out, it was still at or below .45 ACP pressures, even if in a .45 Colt Cartridge, as the Revolver itself was intended for .45 ACP.

Nice recoil and report though! I really liked that loading...and I aspire to duplicate it's performance once onto loading .45 ACP for it.


The "SAECO" Bullets are about .453 and soft...so I imagine they behaved well.


Anyway, even though the .45 Colt Cartridges will chamber in mine's Tapered Bores, I will not re-load anything peppey with them anymore.

But, I will go onto seeing what I can do with .45 ACP Cases, or cut down .30-'06 Cases, and chubby Bullets...using Full Moon Clips.


I love a .45 DA 'Snubby' of any Make.

And with full, soft Wadcutters, I believe it would be a very respectable Carry and SD outfit, especially with healthy Loadings.

pharmer
July 29, 2010, 01:13 AM
If you decide to carry a Ruger Alaskan, you might as well go for one of these bad boys. It's lighter and will handle anything short of the +P Buffalo Bore heavies. Cheaper too. Joe
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o258/1pharmer/SW25-5two11610.jpg

Dr.Rob
July 29, 2010, 02:56 AM
White Coyote, that's a fine looking New Service!

FenderTK421
July 29, 2010, 03:19 AM
I just wish that Marlin made a '94 or '95 in .454 Casull.

If you can live w/ the 1892 design, Puma offers a sweet little carbine in .454/.45lc. (at least they did, rumor has it they quit making them last January) I got mine as a companion for my own .454 Alaskan and love them both. Slickest little lever gun I have ever owned. Just had the double action trigger worked over by Wild West Guns on the Alaskan and will hopefully have time to try it out this weekend. 6 rounds of .454 on the hip and 10 more in the little carbine can make one a bit overconfident in bear country ;)

whitecoyote
July 29, 2010, 03:44 AM
White Coyote, that's a fine looking New Service!
Thanks for the acolades. The Colt is a 1917 Army, cut down (same as the New Service).

Oyeboten
July 29, 2010, 04:31 AM
I do not know what happened, but the old M1917s did not used to be 93 years old!!!

They used to just be 'Used Guns'.

Lol...


Eeeeesh...

When I was in my teens, there were still a zillion WWI Vets around. Wearing their 'Gott Mit Uns' Belt Buckles, mowing their Lawns with Push Mowers with their sleeves rolled up and a Pall Mall dangling from their mouth, and just living normal lives like anyone.


Ohhhhh, tempus fugit

mgkdrgn
July 29, 2010, 10:34 PM
If you can live w/ the 1892 design, Puma offers a sweet little carbine in .454/.45lc. (at least they did, rumor has it they quit making them last January) I got mine as a companion for my own .454 Alaskan and love them both. Slickest little lever gun I have ever owned. Just had the double action trigger worked over by Wild West Guns on the Alaskan and will hopefully have time to try it out this weekend. 6 rounds of .454 on the hip and 10 more in the little carbine can make one a bit overconfident in bear country ;)
What you heard is correct, they ain't makin 'em any more. When I heard they went out of production I hit every distributor I could find and bought up all I could find. (grand total of 10). Pity ... only "new" gun I've ever been able to make any money on. Have one myself fitted with a Skinner rear peep sight ... love it.

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