9mm JHP Thread


May 26, 2010, 12:19 PM
What do you keep your 9mm handguns loaded with?

In my case I'm starting to like this new Winchester PDX1.

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May 26, 2010, 12:49 PM
Hornady Critical Defense.

May 26, 2010, 12:58 PM
Right now I carry basic Winchester 115g Silver Tips, I have few mags left over from a bunch I bought to test HPs in my 709Slim. The Silver Tips don't get much attention but they have always been rated for good expansion and penetration. That said I'll like shoot the rest and switch over to a more "modern" SD bullet like Hornady Critical Defense or Winchester PDX1

Hot Damn!......another ammo thread!......
Hey Doc....is someone forcing you to read the "ammo threads"? If not I have novel idea....If you don't like them, don't read them. ;)

May 26, 2010, 01:02 PM
Hey Doc....is someone forcing you to read the "ammo threads"? If not I have novel idea....If you don't like them, don't read them. ;)

+1 :neener:

Full Metal Jacket
May 26, 2010, 01:10 PM
hornady critical defense is nothing more than a gimmick.

get the PDX1.

May 26, 2010, 01:29 PM
Federal 9BPLE 115gr JHP +P+

The Bushmaster
May 26, 2010, 01:30 PM
124 grain Hornady HP/XTP handloads...

May 26, 2010, 01:49 PM
I like the Federal HST, either 147+P, 147, or 124+P flavors.

I also have carried a lot of Georgia Arms 124+P Gold Dots, some time back before that it was the Federal 9BPLE (I admit, I read two of the Marshall and Sanow books and they did influence me. Now I think they are an interesting read, but not reliable or relevant to contemporary JHP designs).

I've also carried Fiocchi Extrema 124 or 115 XTPs (can't remember which), Fiocchi 147 JHP, WWB 147 JHP, Remington UMC 115 JHP.

I'm sure there have been others too, but those are the great majority of what I have carried. I liked the 147+P HST best of them all.

May 26, 2010, 02:35 PM
147g doubletap gold dots

May 26, 2010, 04:19 PM
9mm - 147gr Federal HST

.380 - 90gr Winchester FNFMJ

The Lone Haranguer
May 26, 2010, 07:03 PM
Federal "Classic" 115-gr. JHP, popularly known by its stocking number, 9BP.

May 26, 2010, 08:13 PM
Winchester Ranger Bonded 124 Gr +P RA9BA if I'm carrying my 9mm.

May 26, 2010, 08:59 PM
Federal 124 gr HST JHP in my springfield xd 9 4".

May 26, 2010, 09:02 PM
the ol 124 gr +P Gold Dots

and FMJ, what can I say, it works for the rest of the world.

May 27, 2010, 12:04 AM
I have read nothing but great reviews on this stuff. The expansion is cookie cutter and consistent according to all of the tests I have read. I am using it my 9mm. I just bought a box to feed my brand spanking new G30sf.

May 27, 2010, 07:04 AM
Im in the Bush Master camp on this one.

124 grain Hornady HP/XTP handloads...

May 27, 2010, 09:29 AM
147gr Ranger T.

I dont know if they are "the best" but my brother inlaw thats a LEO uses them and they shoot well in my gun so.....

May 27, 2010, 09:51 AM
hornady critical defense is nothing more than a gimmick.

That's funny, Ive done some testing on my own and they seem very effective if you ask me.

Ballistic gell, Water jugs, water jugs full of newspaper, cuts of meat, drywall....

It worked very well, especially in .380 and 9mm.

May 27, 2010, 09:59 AM
This "what HP to carry" comes down to 1 thing.

Reliability. Find what your gun likes. Every gun is different. I have guns that will not cycle Golden Saber's, some wont cycle gold dots, some don't like corbon.

Once you find something that your gun feeds every time, then look into price and availability. Don't carry something you can't find on a regular basis or something thats out of your price range to test at least 100rds through the gun you plan on carrying.

we as citizens are not the FBI or Law Enforcement. We do not need our Hollow point ammo to go through car doors or windshields.

I know several cops that have to carry X and they don't like it and have often been proved ineffective but its what they have to use.

we have the advantage of having SO MANY different choices of ammo out there. There is no best answer, no 1 type of bullet will do it all. Its not possible. If there was such a round EVERYONE would be using it and every manufacturer would be copying it.

This is my opinion.

I have many guns around my place, and i wish ALL of them were loaded with the same ammo and i could buy in bulk. But the fact is, nothing is perfect.

May 27, 2010, 10:58 AM
Federal 9BPLE.

May 27, 2010, 11:03 AM
The Critical Defense is one of the few HP ammo's thats well known to expand in .380 reliably. If it does so well in that weaker cartridge it will be great in 9mm imo.
Id put it in my .40 if i could find it.
Its no gimmick, If it was it wouldn't be one of the most recommended .380 ammo available.

May 27, 2010, 11:11 AM
Federal HST-LE 147gr.

May 27, 2010, 11:50 AM
I use 124 grain Speer Gold dot jhps in pistols with barrels 4"+ and 115 grain GDJHP with barrels -4" when concealed carrying.

Around my house I use remington umc 115 grain jhps because I'm usually shooting them at varmints and don't want to waste my premium ammo on them. They work surprisingly well.

I'm not trying to start an ammo war, but to all you people that use 9mm fmj, would you honestly feel safe using it in public without fear of gross overpenetration? That stuff can penetrate to 24"+.

May 27, 2010, 03:13 PM
How are you people finding HST ammo? I can't even find WWB JHP on shelves.

May 27, 2010, 03:34 PM
MAH Distributors
Sometimes Streichers.

May 27, 2010, 03:47 PM

May 27, 2010, 04:47 PM
'm poor. So WWB 147gr JHP.

ive tested this ammo and according to my excel spreadsheet it expands 85% of the time through Water Jugs, Water jugs filled with newspaper, Ballistic gel and wet phone books.

in my tests it has a higher percentage against those media's then several other "High End" ammo

as long as it functions well in your gun, keep using it :)

May 27, 2010, 07:01 PM
I keep my part-time 9mm loaded with 155 grain JHPs in .40 S&W.

May 27, 2010, 07:11 PM
I bet the 40's don't feed that well in your 9 :)

May 27, 2010, 09:44 PM
"part-time" 9mm probably means he's got two barrels?

My 9mm handguns are loaded with Winchester Bonded PDX1 147gr when not at the range. Figured if it works for the FBI it should be OK... http://www.winchester.com/library/news/Pages/News-Bonded-PDX1.aspx

May 27, 2010, 09:44 PM
115 gn Critical Defense in my PT709 and 124 gn HST +P in my M&P 9FS

May 27, 2010, 09:58 PM
135 grain cast LRN with 4.5 grains of Bullseye (this is a max load, maybe a little over.)

May 28, 2010, 12:19 AM
I keep Speer 124 gr. Gold Dots in my Ruger.

May 28, 2010, 12:41 AM
I have some Extreme shock right now. I just got my firsthand gun about a month ago and its the only thing i have tried, but it does a number on water jugs.

May 28, 2010, 01:37 AM
Oh sweet Yeshua no!

Do yourself a favor and get ANYTHING else in JHP, Extreme Shok tends to act like an FMJ in many mediums, and definitely doesn't do anything better than all the superb premium or regular line JHP bullets (non-premium JHPs from the major manufacturers tend to be the premium JHPs that they were using before they designed the new bullet, so you are still getting a well-designed bullet) available today.

And they cost WAYYYY more.

May 28, 2010, 02:07 AM
My p-85 is loaded with Triton Quik Shok 135gr+p and HP carbine has CorBon 115 jhp+p in it.

May 28, 2010, 11:58 AM
I have some Extreme shock right now. I just got my firsthand gun about a month ago and its the only thing i have tried, but it does a number on water jugs.

I'd stay away from Extreme Shock, that stuff tends to explode on impact rather than penetrate to vital organs. Not to mention you can get way more jhp ammo from other more effective brands for the same price. And how can you take this company seriously when they advertise like this:


May 28, 2010, 08:41 PM
I carry either FEDERAL HYDRO SHOK +P+ or HST +P 124grain hollow points in most of my 9m.m. pistols.

I use the COR BON POWERBALL 100 grain +P only in my SIG 225. The small SIG is completely unreliable if you use any other type of hollowpoint, except the old GECO BAT ammo, which is nearly impossible to get.

If I was limited to non +P ammo, I would go with either the old FEDERAL 115 grain jhp load or the standard velocity HYDRO SHOK 124 grain.


May 28, 2010, 09:33 PM
I use Federal Hi-Shok 115 gr. JHP (9BP).....when I can get it anyway.

I avoid +P ammo, for the most part.

blue german
May 28, 2010, 10:29 PM
Right now...as for many years, I load my carry guns with a mixture of old Gold Dot +P and Canadian FMJ ball. The mix starts with maybe two Canadian ball (more if hi-cap) loaded one FMJ then a HP, another FMJ, and the HP to the capacity of the mag. So we can have the penetration of the FMJ should the gunfight progress beyond a few rounds fired. This process was arrived at with experience gained in several gunfights......

May 28, 2010, 10:49 PM
I stack my 9's with Corbon HPs/Gieco BAT/FMJ
but by the bed I keep a 45Colt

May 28, 2010, 11:04 PM
147 XTP's from Hornady. Penetration is King, Expansion is Queen. Spare magazine is loaded with 124 +P Remington Golden Sabers.

Both loads develop great penetration, and the 124 +P also very good expansion.

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