Anyone out there own a Desert Micro .380 Eagle?


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stinger 327
May 26, 2010, 12:59 PM
If so what is you input on it? What do you like and don't like about it?:confused:

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MICHAEL T
May 26, 2010, 02:20 PM
I have a friend that has one says its to heavy, trigger is terrible, and kicks like a mule. I remind him he got all this for almost 2 times the price of a 380 KelTec, Then I head for door . He has no sense of humor

dom1104
May 26, 2010, 02:20 PM
What about people who picked up a few, tried the 80 lb trigger pull, thought it was the worst gun they ever handled in their life and then put it down again?

I mean, if you only want input from owners that means they liked it enough to buy it right?

stinger 327
May 26, 2010, 03:07 PM
What about people who picked up a few, tried the 80 lb trigger pull, thought it was the worst gun they ever handled in their life and then put it down again?

I mean, if you only want input from owners that means they liked it enough to buy it right?
No they should know and be able to give a good evaluation after having shot it many times.
Anyone that doesn't own one but has shot one and doesn't care for the recoil or price well that's fine too or likes the size of it.

stinger 327
May 26, 2010, 03:09 PM
I have a friend that has one says its to heavy, trigger is terrible, and kicks like a mule. I remind him he got all this for almost 2 times the price of a 380 KelTec, Then I head for door . He has no sense of humor
It's DAO which I am not fond of. I prefer the initial shot to be double action then after that semi-auto for trigger pull. I have heard others complain about the recoil.

CZF
May 26, 2010, 04:08 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/mdewal2.jpg
DAO trigger pull and recoil are fine for me.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/MDE-KEV1.jpg

You won't notice either of them if you have to use it.

It's another wonderful example of Czech design and function.

Marschal grips (for sale) and hot Double Tap Ammo make it even better.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/mde-4sale.jpg

I'm going to try to paint the front sight ramp.

I only wish I had the funds to buy a blued version.
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1554617/6ff.jpg
More pics:
http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/GUNS2/MDE/Marschal%20Grips/

stinger 327
May 26, 2010, 04:33 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/mdewal2.jpg
DAO trigger pull and recoil are fine for me.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/MDE-KEV1.jpg

You won't notice either of them if you have to use it.

It's another wonderful example of Czech design and function.

Marschal grips (for sale) and hot Double Tap Ammo make it even better.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/mde-4sale.jpg

I'm going to try to paint the front sight ramp.

I only wish I had the funds to buy a blued version.
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1554617/6ff.jpg
More pics:
http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/GUNS2/MDE/Marschal%20Grips/
Maybe so if you are refering to the DAO feature of the trigger being too hard. This is of Czech. design? It's made in Minneapolis, USA. The grips aren't the ones I saw as the ones I saw blended with the gun better.

I don't think they offer this Desert Micro Mini in blue if so why would you want that since stainless is more durable?
Put some Buffalo Bore ammo in that which should really spice things up.

CZF
May 26, 2010, 05:18 PM
Designed and made in Czech republic. Imported and final assembled
in Minn by MRI. ( or at least I'm told)

The Marschal grips I have are slightly over-sized by my request.
Blend with the gun just fine, give a little more to hold onto.

( no sharp egdes, just smooth shooting!)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897801/mde-4sale3.jpg
Blued MDE guns are out now.
Nickel, not stainless.

No BB ammo for me. DT is as powerful as I need.

sturmgewehr
May 26, 2010, 05:39 PM
Having shot them, I'm not a fan. I prefer the ergonomics of the Kahr P380... it's like shooting a full sized handgun, it's so comfy. I see no reason to buy a pistol I can barely get one finger comfortably around the grip that's heavy and awkward.

M2 Carbine
May 26, 2010, 08:46 PM
Anyone out there own a Desert Micro .380 Eagle?
I've had one for a year.
The slide cracked at about 180 rounds. No trouble since.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/MDEcrackedslide.jpg

I pocket carry it. It's a little heavier than my Kel Tec .32 and P3AT but not bad.
I like my Kel Tecs but I do have a lot more confidence in the reliability and accuracy of the MDE.

It kicks and the trigger is hard but that means little if all it has to do is shoot maybe a dozen or so rounds in a defense situation.

The gun has usable sights and is accurate (heavy trigger and all), even out to extreme ranges like 52 yards.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/52yards38Smith.jpg

Standing, two hands.
Two shots went just below the target but that wasn't the gun's fault. I wasn't correcting quite enough for bullet drop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/MDEat50yards.jpg

stinger 327
May 27, 2010, 12:23 AM
The Desert Micro Mini .380 I saw didn't have adjustable sights. The recoil is harsh but will this gun cut the web of your hand?:confused::eek:
Also is it easy to clean and maintain?:confused:

VA27
May 27, 2010, 01:04 AM
I've had one for several months and I really like it.

Size: A little larger than a Seecamp, it's still smaller than any other .380 on the market. It may be a little thicker than some but it's shorter in both directions.

Weight: It's all metal, alloy frame, steel slide, but it still only weighs 15oz loaded. In a pocket it disappears.

Trigger guard: Some complain about the trigger guard. Well, it's big enough to actually get a finger in there, even with a glove on. The trigger guard looks big because the gun is small.

Trigger pull: DAO with second strike capability. It's smooth. It seems heavier than it really is because you only have a finger and a half on the grip. Shoot it with two hands until you get used to it. It's no heavier or longer than a Smith J-frame.

Sights: You can actually see them. My only gripe with the gun is the front sight ramp needs serrations, it's too reflective.

Accuracy: If you can shoot, the gun is as accurate as any service sized gun with ammo it likes.

Recoil: Shoot one of the flyweight revolvers and then shoot the MDE. Recoil is just not a problem unless you have limited hand strength due to a medical condition.

Cleaning: Easy to field strip, easy to clean, easy to put back together, once you know the drill.

A little blue locktite on the grip screws is in order. The mag catch spring is a flat spring under the right grip. If the screw gets loose the mag catch gets touchy.

IIRC, the slide and frame are made in the U.S. and the small parts come from CZ, courtesy of the GCA68 'point' system.

Some say it's ugly, but I think it looks kinda 'P7ish'. It is well made and has a quality feel to it, much like the Seecamp and Kahr.

stinger 327
May 27, 2010, 02:06 AM
I've had one for several months and I really like it.

Size: A little larger than a Seecamp, it's still smaller than any other .380 on the market. It may be a little thicker than some but it's shorter in both directions.

Weight: It's all metal, alloy frame, steel slide, but it still only weighs 15oz loaded. In a pocket it disappears.

Trigger guard: Some complain about the trigger guard. Well, it's big enough to actually get a finger in there, even with a glove on. The trigger guard looks big because the gun is small.

Trigger pull: DAO with second strike capability. It's smooth. It seems heavier than it really is because you only have a finger and a half on the grip. Shoot it with two hands until you get used to it. It's no heavier or longer than a Smith J-frame.

Sights: You can actually see them. My only gripe with the gun is the front sight ramp needs serrations, it's too reflective.

Accuracy: If you can shoot, the gun is as accurate as any service sized gun with ammo it likes.

Recoil: Shoot one of the flyweight revolvers and then shoot the MDE. Recoil is just not a problem unless you have limited hand strength due to a medical condition.

Cleaning: Easy to field strip, easy to clean, easy to put back together, once you know the drill.

A little blue locktite on the grip screws is in order. The mag catch spring is a flat spring under the right grip. If the screw gets loose the mag catch gets touchy.

IIRC, the slide and frame are made in the U.S. and the small parts come from CZ, courtesy of the GCA68 'point' system.

Some say it's ugly, but I think it looks kinda 'P7ish'. It is well made and has a quality feel to it, much like the Seecamp and Kahr.
This is positive. Now correct me if I'm wrong there are six rounds in the clip and you can have one in the chamber? If it is possible to have one in the chamber is it safe without accidential discharge should it fall on hammer or whatever?
It isn't like a single action auto that you have to rack a bullet into the chamber and insert magazine and walk around with it cocked and locked?

VA27
May 27, 2010, 12:14 PM
Correct, 6 in the mag, one in the chamber.

DAO, double-action only (trigger cocking) for every shot, just like a Smith Centennial model.

When it's fired and the action cycles, the hammer follows the slide down. It is also a rebounding hammer (meaning even when the hammer is at rest, it doesn't touch the firing pin).

The hammer is recessed and shielded by the back of the slide, so that even if you drop it, the hammer can't hit anything.

stinger 327
May 27, 2010, 02:21 PM
Having shot them, I'm not a fan. I prefer the ergonomics of the Kahr P380... it's like shooting a full sized handgun, it's so comfy. I see no reason to buy a pistol I can barely get one finger comfortably around the grip that's heavy and awkward.
Speaking of full sized if this is the case I still feel more comfortable with a Ruger SP-101 in .357 as that is also a very nice solid package that can shoot full loads.

dom1104
May 27, 2010, 03:00 PM
My experiance handling 3 of them is exactly the same as this guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsuQLo3XNX4

I am a huge CZ fan, but on the three models I dry fired I was distinctly unimpressed.

M2 Carbine
May 29, 2010, 08:49 AM
I shot the MDE yesterday to try out a few different loads.
Because of this thread I paid particular attention to the trigger and kick.

Personally I do not like DAO in any gun, including the MDE. The MDE's trigger isn't too bad. A little hard but not too bad for the type gun.

The kick is uncomfortable and I don't take pleasure in shooting more than 25-30 rounds in practice. Since I probably won't be shooting but a few rounds if I had to use the gun, the kick and trigger isn't really much of a issue.

It was interesting that the first six rounds (aimed slow fire) were centered in a one inch bullseye (7 yards). The rest of the practice rounds, (fired fast), were all COM.

kokapelli
May 29, 2010, 11:16 AM
Mine has been 100% reliable and as far as I'm concerned reliability is #1 in a defense gun.

After putting a little red finger nail polish on the front site I find the sites just fine for a pocket 380.

Does it kick? Yes it does have pretty heavy felt recoil but not enough to be a problem.

As for the trigger, it's exactly what I want for a pistol sitting in my pocket with a round chambered.

As was previously stated, take down and re assembly is easy after you do it a couple of times.

stinger 327
May 30, 2010, 02:32 AM
I shot the MDE yesterday to try out a few different loads.
Because of this thread I paid particular attention to the trigger and kick.

Personally I do not like DAO in any gun, including the MDE. The MDE's trigger isn't too bad. A little hard but not too bad for the type gun.

The kick is uncomfortable and I don't take pleasure in shooting more than 25-30 rounds in practice. Since I probably won't be shooting but a few rounds if I had to use the gun, the kick and trigger isn't really much of a issue.

It was interesting that the first six rounds (aimed slow fire) were centered in a one inch bullseye (7 yards). The rest of the practice rounds, (fired fast), were all COM.
Too bad it isn't like the Beretta with one in the chamber DA then each shot after that it is cocked which a lighter trigger pull.

Gun Geezer
May 30, 2010, 09:19 AM
I like mine. Very much.

Personnal I like the added heft. LCPs and etc are too light for me.

The trigger is DAO and long travel. Long travel is a good thing in DAO.

Personnaly, I do not find that it kicks "like a mule". if so, it is a very small mule! Hey, 10 to 15 oz guns are going to have some recoil even in a 380.

I have shot the Sig P238. I prefer it over the MDE except that the MDE is much smaller and easier to pocket carry.

M2 Carbine
May 30, 2010, 10:32 AM
I have shot the Sig P238. I prefer it over the MDE except that the MDE is much smaller and easier to pocket carry.
I like the P238 better than my Kel Tec .32, P3AT, MDE and Diamond Back.
(the Diamond Back, so far, has proven to be unreliable)

Trouble is, I've already had to send the P238 back to SIG because of feeding and trigger problems.:(
Since I've seen a lot of the same feeding problems I have, on the Internet, I doubt that the gun will be reliable enough to carry.
Big disappointment to. I really like the gun.

So I'm back to carry the MDE again.

Haifisch
May 30, 2010, 11:53 AM
I've had one for a year.
The slide cracked at about 180 rounds. No trouble since.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/MDEcrackedslide.jpg


Typical Czech made Junk. :barf:

kokapelli
May 30, 2010, 01:04 PM
Typical Czech made Junk. :barf:
Typical uniformed comment since the pistol is American made.:rolleyes:

seanie!
May 30, 2010, 01:19 PM
Typical uniformed comment since the pistol is American made.
I could be wrong, but I thought they were just imported here, and not made in the US.

kokapelli
May 30, 2010, 03:06 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought they were just imported here, and not made in the US.
This is from Magnum Research website.
Sharing all the family traits of the world-famous Desert Eagle pistol, Magnumís Micro Desert Eagle pistol, chambered in .380 ACP, is the ultimate in compact personal protection. Small enough to nest comfortably at home, in a pocket or in a purse, the double action only Micro Desert Eagle is proudly made in the U.S. and weighs less than 14 oz. But donít let its size fool you. The Micro Desert Eagle provides big-time protection with a gas-assisted blowback system for ultimate reliability and amazing accuracy. Which only goes to prove that good things do indeed come in small packages.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/micro_eagle.asp

philip964
May 30, 2010, 05:23 PM
I was concerned that the trigger guard blended so perfectly with the business end of the barrel, I would shoot a finger off of the bracing hand during fast draw practice. So I opted for the Sig 238 for that reason, plus I liked the single action trigger.

Since then I have realized the .380 round in a metal gun like the Micro Desert Eagle or the Sig P238 has very little recoil and it is very easy to shoot with only one hand. It is also a lot faster.

stinger 327
May 30, 2010, 05:48 PM
I like the P238 better than my Kel Tec .32, P3AT, MDE and Diamond Back.
(the Diamond Back, so far, has proven to be unreliable)

Trouble is, I've already had to send the P238 back to SIG because of feeding and trigger problems.:(
Since I've seen a lot of the same feeding problems I have, on the Internet, I doubt that the gun will be reliable enough to carry.
Big disappointment to. I really like the gun.

So I'm back to carry the MDE again.
I will stick with revolvers because of this. But I really like the MDE as I find it very attractive just like a piece of jewelry. It would just be another one to add to the collection.

stinger 327
May 30, 2010, 05:50 PM
This is from Magnum Research website.
Sharing all the family traits of the world-famous Desert Eagle pistol, Magnumís Micro Desert Eagle pistol, chambered in .380 ACP, is the ultimate in compact personal protection. Small enough to nest comfortably at home, in a pocket or in a purse, the double action only Micro Desert Eagle is proudly made in the U.S. and weighs less than 14 oz. But donít let its size fool you. The Micro Desert Eagle provides big-time protection with a gas-assisted blowback system for ultimate reliability and amazing accuracy. Which only goes to prove that good things do indeed come in small packages.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/micro_eagle.asp
That's such a beautiful little gun.

kokapelli
May 30, 2010, 05:52 PM
I will stick with revolvers because of this. But I really like the MDE as I find it very attractive just like a piece of jewelry. It would just be another one to add to the collection.
I could be wrong but my experience is just the opposite in that I feel polymer framed guns are softer shooting than metal framed guns, especially when the metal framed gun has an alloy frame.

M2 Carbine
May 30, 2010, 10:51 PM
will stick with revolvers because of this. But I really like the MDE as I find it very attractive just like a piece of jewelry. It would just be another one to add to the collection.
I am a big fan of the S&W 2 inch J Frame. If I could pocket carry a J Frame I wouldn't be bothering with any of the little .380 pocket guns.
I wear short sleeve coveralls all the time and the pockets just aren't deep enough for revolver carry in town, although I do pocket carry a Model 60 around the place.

fmfdocglock
May 30, 2010, 11:13 PM
I have had an MDE since last fall.

I like it. It took about 100 rds to break in. Very reliable.

I like the fact that it has real sights and I can shoot it out to 21 ft with no problem accurately.

Cant do that with other little .380s

It is heavier than a Ruger LCP.

stinger 327
May 31, 2010, 02:44 AM
I have had an MDE since last fall.

I like it. It took about 100 rds to break in. Very reliable.

I like the fact that it has real sights and I can shoot it out to 21 ft with no problem accurately.

Cant do that with other little .380s

It is heavier than a Ruger LCP.
I must say that the MDE does feel real good in my hand and pointing it feels real good.

stinger 327
May 31, 2010, 02:46 AM
I am a big fan of the S&W 2 inch J Frame. If I could pocket carry a J Frame I wouldn't be bothering with any of the little .380 pocket guns.
I wear short sleeve coveralls all the time and the pockets just aren't deep enough for revolver carry in town, although I do pocket carry a Model 60 around the place.
I still like the .357 SP-101 in grey finish. It's a great handy little gun but heavy but that's why it is so robust.

Gun Geezer
May 31, 2010, 08:01 AM
I still like the .357 SP-101 in grey finish. It's a great handy little gun but heavy but that's why it is so robust.
Revolvers are certainly more reliable. 6 (or 5) for sure. But they are too wide for easy pocket or IWB carry, IMHO. Plus the 380 is a tad enemic.

In the end, I suppose pocket autos have their place. And for me, that place is in my right hip pocket holster!

stinger 327
May 31, 2010, 05:26 PM
Revolvers are certainly more reliable. 6 (or 5) for sure. But they are too wide for easy pocket or IWB carry, IMHO. Plus the 380 is a tad enemic.

In the end, I suppose pocket autos have their place. And for me, that place is in my right hip pocket holster!
I agree drop a sp-101 in your pocket if it's a loose pocket and it will stretch it out. Best carry is those NAA Mini Revolvers as far as size go and they come in .22 LR and .22 Mag. They will leave a very nasty wound.

stinger 327
May 31, 2010, 05:27 PM
I have had an MDE since last fall.

I like it. It took about 100 rds to break in. Very reliable.

I like the fact that it has real sights and I can shoot it out to 21 ft with no problem accurately.

Cant do that with other little .380s

It is heavier than a Ruger LCP.
Which brand and type of bullet did you find the MDE liked?

kokapelli
May 31, 2010, 08:05 PM
I have had an MDE since last fall.

I like the fact that it has real sights and I can shoot it out to 21 ft with no problem accurately.

Cant do that with other little .380s
It is heavier than a Ruger LCP.

I disagree completely with that statement.

I have two P-3ATs, a TCP, a Micro Desert Eagle and also had a Diamondback 380.
Of the 5 pistols the Diamondback was the most accurate but unfortunately it was not reliable.

The TCP comes in a close second and then the P-3ATs and the Micro are about equal for me.

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