RR 1911 GI with rust?


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mojofilter
May 26, 2010, 05:34 PM
I have a 1943 MI Remington Rand 1911A1 in great firing condition. I believe it is mostly original. I checked the serials and barrel are a match to the original general issues.

It is in really good condition but has some rust/pitting spots or what I think are rust spots, but I don't want to re-parkerize it. I am not sure what to do to remove the rust without messing with the original finish.

I was hoping for advice on this. I am considering selling it and getting a different weapon for ranging and home protection. I am not sure what these are worth. I am planning on taking this to a smith to have it appraised.

What would you do if you were in my position? Looking forward to any advice. I will post pix when I get home tonight.

JK

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Yo Mama
May 26, 2010, 05:40 PM
First, welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here.

I think you have a very valuable firearm there, and I wouldn't touch it unless you really know what your doing. It's easy to remove the rust with solvents and a brush, but you will definately mess up the finish. I'd either take it to a smith, or sell as is IF you still want to sell after you see the value:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170217569 (1500 dollars)

SharpsDressedMan
May 26, 2010, 07:32 PM
If you find a good way to get that rust off, let me know:D http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05300.jpg

mojofilter
May 26, 2010, 10:03 PM
wow! that is intense

mojofilter
May 27, 2010, 12:18 AM
Here are some pics:

http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2258.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2237.jpg
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http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2261.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2245.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2242.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/mojofilter/IMG_2260.jpg

Lvl21nerd
May 27, 2010, 01:04 AM
i...want it

EMC45
May 27, 2010, 08:36 AM
Sandblast it and use some WalmArt cold blue and you'll be good to go.....

MAKster
May 27, 2010, 12:26 PM
I would just use something like CLP or oil to try and gently remove the some of the rust. Do not scrub it with a wire brush. That will ruin the value of the gun to collectors. Just think of it as patina not rust.

Greg528iT
May 27, 2010, 07:17 PM
Since refinishing, reduces it's value. I'm thinking lots and lots of gun oil, keep it wet in oil. That should at least prevent further deterioration. If you find you just do not like handling it, want something a little prettier. Buy a new one.. let that one be a semi safe queen.

COK
May 27, 2010, 07:45 PM
What was said above, get some gun oil on, it looks real dry, It may look a lot better after a few applications and wiping down a few times.

KingMedicine
May 27, 2010, 09:40 PM
Holy crap i want that...

Bentonville
May 27, 2010, 11:04 PM
+1 Makster.
I have an earlier S&W Military and Police 2 inch revolver that had some rust spots on it due to storage in a leather holster for years. I used lots of CLP with 0000 steel wool. It sat a day or two with the CLP then I gently worked on it over a week or so, wiping the loosened rust off after a couple of passes with the wool. It looks good now. Just don't harm the rest of the finish or make what's there worse. If you hate it and want a newer gun, sell it and get you a nice HK, or whatever.

R.Ph. 380
May 28, 2010, 12:26 AM
That is definately useless, I will offer $50.00 just to reimburse you for the shipping so you can get rid of that georgeo........oops, ugly paperweight. LOL

Bill

mojofilter
May 28, 2010, 10:42 AM
I am going to oil it up and contemplate selling it over the weekend. I just bought my wife a sub-com XD 9mm and it is just too small for my meat-cleaver hands so I want to get a new weapon for the range and home protection. I am thinking a sig p220 or glock 21.

I am not sure what a fair price for it is for this. For any of you who are truly interested let me know and I will let you know when I make my decision.

Thanks again,

J

Brian Williams
May 28, 2010, 02:01 PM
It is a WWII US GI Remington Rand, do not take less than $500.
Look at 1911.org or 1911.com and find out what it is worth before you just dump it on the market.

Greg528iT
May 28, 2010, 02:18 PM
Dammit Brian Williams, I was just about to outbid R.Ph and go to $52...:neener:

no, actually thanks for the info. That'll help us all for future action.:)

jfh
May 29, 2010, 11:52 AM
From what I can tell, pursuing the cleanup with gun oil / CLP and 4-ought steel wool (or even just patches) is the way to go. Whatever you choose to do, don't think of refinishing it.

And, follow Brian's advice to look around a bit for the current values of a WWII shooter like this one....

Jim H.

SharpsDressedMan
May 29, 2010, 04:06 PM
:)For crying out loud, post it for sale on the board and give members first grabs.

Nick5182
May 29, 2010, 04:25 PM
I'm with MAKster. put a little oil on a soft cloth and gently wipe it down. It'll take some time and most likely won't get every spec of rust off, but it shouldn't hurt the finish.

rcmodel
May 29, 2010, 04:30 PM
0000 (Extra Fine) steel wool & oil or gun cleaning solvent will safely remove whatever rust will come off, without hurting the remaining bluing.

The bluing under the rust is already toast.

rc

EMC45
May 29, 2010, 04:41 PM
Met a guy at the range once and he had a 1911 not an A1 just an 11. He found it in the attic of a house he moved into. It was in a cigar box wrapped in an old oily rag. He put it together and bought some ammo for it and promptly went out and fired it. Shoots good. He's been shooting it ever since. I held it and wouldn't have believed it, had I not seen it. His was in a lot worse shape the Mojofilter's 1911A1. It was about silver with a lot of honest wear.

Snowdog
May 30, 2010, 06:47 AM
SharpsDressedMan, some day that pitted look might be all the rage (think stonewashed jeans of the 80's or modern "antiqued" furniture, etc). Maybe you're just ahead of the game.

mojofilter
June 3, 2010, 12:51 AM
I have decided to sell this beauty. I will miss it, but I am at a place where I need a functional weapon and not a collector's item. The way that I see it this belongs to someone who really wants to keep it in as pristine shape as possible.

Being from California I am not sure what the laws are for selling out of state. I will need to find out more, unless someone can enlighten me? Should I post this in the sale threads?

BHP FAN
June 3, 2010, 01:14 AM
Post it in the for sale thread,and have your FFL send it to thier FFL.

ms6852
June 3, 2010, 01:25 AM
Spray it with HD Corrosion X. You can find it in a marine place or at an Academy , bass pro shot, etc where marine accessories are sold. It sprays on than become thick like grease. Leave in place a couple of days and wipe it off, than use extra fine still wool on the rough rust spots. I coat all my guns with this and don't ever have to worry about rust.

oldbear
June 3, 2010, 09:12 PM
Please DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO CLEAN THE FINISH, I did on my 1942 vintage and I reduced the value by $200.00 - $300.00. Just keep it clean and well lubed, and look for a 1911 or WWII collector. As a general guide I was still able to sell my 1942 Colt 1911 for $700.00.

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