Postal Service - First Line Of Defense?


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Phydeaux642
May 28, 2010, 09:27 PM
I get stuff in the mail on a regular basis such as NRA mailings, American Rifleman, gun auction notifications, etc. Recently I ordered a hickory cane on the interweb and it was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was 40"+ in length.

I get home from work a couple of evenings ago and bring the box (which had been placed out of sight of the street) inside only to notice that the tape had been cut and the box had been pried apart so that someone could see the contents.

My first thought was that someone at the post office pays attention to what I get in the mail and decided to see if maybe I was getting a long gun in the mail. There wasn't anyway for anyone to know that there was a box on the porch if they were just passing by. Besides, I have never had any trouble with people going through my mail.

My question is do you think that the Post Office pays attention to what we get in the mail? Or, do I just have a nosy mailman? Or, do I need to clean my tinfoil hat?

I do live in Missouri after all, and last year law enforcement was given a report by the Missouri Department of Public Safety which explained that the next group of terrorists that needed to be watched out for are those that buy guns, those that voted for Ron Paul, those that are Libertarians...well, you get the picture.

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dc.fireman
May 28, 2010, 09:29 PM
Dang. Now that's scary.

oldbear
May 28, 2010, 09:34 PM
At one time the post office was required to notify the receiving party of they (P.O.) opened ANY mail for inspection. I don't know if this is still policy;call the local post master and ask?

OpenSights
May 28, 2010, 10:06 PM
Oh boy, not cool. When I had my CVA delivered (UPS) the guy said "New gun?" "Yep!" he's a gun guy too. USPS, we have a different one every day it seems like. And on some weekends they aren't even wearing uniforms. Anytime they deliver something they either leave it by the side door or behind the screen door, never any tampering though.

Being pried open is a problem. I'd be making a phone call. No telling who peeked, but it doesn't hurt making the PO aware of the problem.

Buck Snort
May 28, 2010, 10:30 PM
The postal service is a front for the CPUSA and you can bet yer bippy they were check'n to see if you had recieved a gun!!

JR47
May 28, 2010, 10:32 PM
Call the Postmaster, not his secretary, and discuss the problem. The package may have been spit-out by the sorting machinery, and damaged.

Tampering with the Mail is one of the only absolute firing offenses in the Postal Service, with no chance of recovering.

We had a 22 year veteran using food coupons from a chain of restaurants. The Manager became suspicious when the guy kept showing up, and called. The man was using coupons sent through the mail, bulk rate, and were to have been discarded, as they were addressed to vacant units.

He was arrested, fired, lost his retirement and benefits, and is unable to work for a business doing anything under contract to the government. All to save less than $20.00, total.

The people without uniforms could be "casual" employees, hired for an 89 day temp appointment, or even new employees under their 90 day probation.

41magsnub
May 28, 2010, 11:00 PM
What I bet is more likely is it was misdelivered and the other party just opened it.. wondering what the heck.. a cane? I didn't order a cane??? Then read the label and dropped it off on your porch.

Oro
May 28, 2010, 11:16 PM
My question is do you think that the Post Office pays attention to what we get in the mail? Or, do I just have a nosy mailman? Or, do I need to clean my tinfoil hat?

No, it came open in transit and they re-sealed it.

I find this happens with longer solid objects - something about the size of the machinery or turns on the belts, me thinks. I've seen this a few times with a few items, and all fit the same general dimensions - over 2' in length and narrow. A cane fits the profile perfectly. I've seen this a few times.

Phydeaux642
May 29, 2010, 12:39 AM
What I bet is more likely is it was misdelivered and the other party just opened it.. wondering what the heck.. a cane? I didn't order a cane??? Then read the label and dropped it off on your porch.

Very possible.

No, it came open in transit and they re-sealed it.

Well, there was no resealing. Some of the tape looked like there was a clean cut with a knife.

LaserSpot
May 29, 2010, 12:52 AM
No, it came open in transit and they re-sealed it.He said the tape had been cut, he didn't say it was resealed. I doubt it's related to the NRA mailings; they probably just do random inspections, looking for good stuff to steal.

A couple weeks ago, I shipped a laptop via UPS. The box arrived empty, nothing inside but cardboard and bubble wrap. The joke was on them when they try to turn it on; I was shipping an old, broken laptop in the box from a brand new one. I wonder if their tracking system includes re-weighing boxes? It would be interesting to know when they get lighter.

If you ship a firearm (or anything valuable), I would be sure to record the s/n, take a picture, and insure it well. I would be tempted to use a well-sealed inner box so it's harder to peek in. If the boxes are generic, they may give up before discovering what's inside.

The Lone Haranguer
May 29, 2010, 08:48 AM
Call the Postmaster, not his secretary, and discuss the problem. The package may have been spit-out by the sorting machinery, and damaged.

Agreed. However, this has happened to a couple of letters sent to me in the past, and they were resealed with a label affixed to them notifying me of this. They looked as if they had been run through an old-time wringer washing machine. If someone in the post office (or somewhere further up the distribution chain) did tamper with it, it needs to be investigated, and your complaint will be taken seriously.

jonmerritt
May 29, 2010, 09:15 AM
The us postal policy (federal government) reserves the authority to inspect ANY package that they deem questionable. And they do not have to notify you that they opened it to look inside to see if they could arrest you as a suspect in anything they can come up with. It is in the interest of public safety!

JR47
May 29, 2010, 09:48 AM
Generally, however, they will stamp "opened in transit", or "found open in the mails" on anything that isn't going to be prosecutable.

berettaprofessor
May 29, 2010, 10:02 AM
The us postal policy (federal government) reserves the authority to inspect ANY package that they deem questionable. And they do not have to notify you that they opened it to look inside to see if they could arrest you as a suspect in anything they can come up with. It is TO PROTECT THE SHEEPLES AND THE CHILDREN!

As someone used to say; There, fixed it for ya!

The Bushmaster
May 29, 2010, 10:16 AM
Most often if the U.S. Mail inspects the contents of a package they place a sticker on the package stating so and retape the package. I would be looking for a nosy mail man hoping for something big in the package...

TNT in Round Rock
May 29, 2010, 11:10 AM
I'll admit I'd feel very uncomfortable just knowing someone opened it - regardless of who it was

KarenTOC
May 29, 2010, 03:11 PM
I like the neighbor idea, though I'd think a neighbor might include an "oops" note with it.

I think it's unlikely it was a postal inspection. More likely someone was "shopping" and it should definitely be reported.

Sam1911
May 29, 2010, 05:24 PM
Only tangentially related to guns. We can't say or do much for you. Call your local post office and report it.

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