[twoblink]

my gf didn't want to pay full price for the movie, so we went to see "Bad Boys 2" in a 2nd run theater.

There was a scene, when some boy came to pick up Martin's daughter for like a date...

There:

#1) Will Smith pointed a gun at the kid's face
#2) Pointed the gun at Martin's head
#3) Had his finger deep in the trigger well
#4) Waved it around in an open door, where I assume, the neighbor across the street would have been the backstop.


It was like an attempt by hollywood to show mis-use of guns, just so they can turn around and say how dangerous guns are (even in the hands of "seasoned" officers) :barf:

I was very "upset" :cuss: :fire: <-- self-edited for the benefit of the moderators

Anybody know an email address of someone high up in the studio's foodchain I can email?? I tried to explain to my gf "Honey, this is NOT how you handle a gun properly, someone will get killed.."

:cuss: :fire: :barf:

[Browns Fan]

The Hollywood elite is only interested in the 2 rules as follows:

1. Push their political/immoral agenda.

2. Make a lot of money.

Not necessarily in that order.

[Phantom Warrior]

It's Hollywood... I'm not even going to waste any cyberbreath on gunhandling in Hollywood. Like Browns Fan said, they ain't in it to teach people safe and responsible gunhandling. Enough said...

:rolleyes:

[Mark Tyson]

If they were really so worried about gun safety they would. But they aren't - they just like feeling better than us barbaric gun owners.

[P95Carry]

These demo's of sloppy handling always irritate the hell outa me too ..... so many people are way too easily influenced by movies and so it's hardly surprising that bad habits can start that way.

By comparison ... and wife will bear this out .. every time (occasionally it can happen) there is a scene where they actually .... GET IT RIGHT ..... and then I mouth off in celebration (annoyingly!!). It might be finger off trigger when it should be ... maybe muzzle pointed safe .... plus of course the unconscious count within that tells me when a guy's piece should be empty ..... and it actually agrees! Wonders!!

[MessedUpMike]

I know there's been a thread going about how stupid the gun handling displayed on the "US Marshals" poster is, but in "The Fugitive" there scene where they advance down the tunnel nobody is pointing a gun at anyone else. The only scene one wonders about is where did the bullets go after the bounced off of the bullet proof glass.

[twoblink]

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we expect them to screw up badly on gun safety, and we gasp when they get even ONE of the rules right??

The problem is, my gf isn't exactly a gun buff, and so I don't want her to think "holding a gun side-ways "gangsta" style is actually something you want to do"..

Don't even get me started on the foley... When someone points a glock, you hear it cock :rolleyes: :scrutiny:

[Double Naught Spy]

Why are we wanting to be so hard on Hollywood depicting ficticious stories when we don't seem to give a rat's behind about any of the other unsafe stuff they depict. How long do you want the list to be. Major stars in movies rarely drive cars in a safe manner, motorcycles, or other vehicles. They should construction workers violating all sorts of safety rules. They show battleship gunners loading the big cannon with the wrong loads. They show first aid, CPR, surgery, etc., all done wrong. Heck, they show drug use, stealing, unsafe sex, and the list goes on and on.

Why would you assume they would get gun safety runs right when they can't even get the laws of physics right? How many times have you seen a 20+ shot revolver, a person fly through the air after being hit by a pistol round, rifle round, or shotgun round?

Personally, I don't feel too bad about Hollywood and the dumb things they show. Given that Hollywood serves as a provider of 'training films' for gang-bangers, I would rather they get all the improper insight as possible. It is a shame many of the good guys are too dumb or ignorant to not realize these shortcomings as well.

If you are going to write about gun handling, please be sure to write about car driving as well. I don't deal with idiots shooting guns around me everyday, but I do deal with Hollywood-inspired drivers during my commute everyday and it is scary.

[pax]

How many of the complainants on this thread were unhappy about the gun-safety lecture at the end of the Russian Roulette episode of 24?

We get mad at 'Hollywood' when they try to get it right, we get mad when they get it wrong, we get mad when they tell kids Not To Do This At Home, we get mad when they don't tell kids Not To Do This At Home ...

And we still give them our money and buy their products.

I guess if I were a Hollywood producer, I would suit myself and please my own friends, too. *shrug* No point in taking the public seriously, is there.

pax

[Ryder]

Why are we wanting to be so hard on Hollywood depicting ficticious stories when we don't seem to give a rat's behind about any of the other unsafe stuff they depict.

Because threads on this board must be gun related?

I watched "THE HUNTED" the other night. I had a hard time watching the main character track things in the deep woods during a snowstorm without a hat on his head. :what:

[Waitone]

Hollywood has no qualms about calling out the pro-rkba crowd. Hollywood does not approve of the concept and it says so in its work product.

I think it entirely reasonable for RKBA crowd to pass judgment on Hollywood's work product as it pertains to gun use and safety.

I would love to see a pro-rkba group to view and publish reviews on Hollywood movies as it pertains to gun use and safety. Perhaps develop a 5 cartridge scale for safety and maybe a 5 cartridge scale for lawful gun usage. Maybe al 5 cartridge scale for unlawful gun use.

End it up with an overall rating for "reasonable" firearm usage.

[Zach S]

Amen Waitone.

[Smoke]

It's Hollywood... I'm not even going to waste any cyberbreath on gunhandling in Hollywood. Like Browns Fan said, they ain't in it to teach people safe and responsible gunhandling. Enough said...

I concur.

Smoke.

[ceetee]

I thought it was just supposed to be funny... I thought we were supposed to realize how unsafe he was being, and that it was just too much that he would go so overboard just to scare a poor kid...

Of course it's unrealistic... how much of anything else that happens in that movie could really happen? C'mon... cars flipping off a truck like flapjacks off a Waffle House griddle? Driving through a shanty town, not getting anything stuck in the drive train, or through the radiator? Driving all the way through a mansion?

It's fantasy, man... lighten up!

[twoblink]

Ceetee,

I'd lighten up, except that then becomes my gf's impression of "gun handling", which is something I don't want in her brain.. Things like drug use, stealing, dangerous driving etc.. She has a pretty good amount of exposure to those things and can tell which is right and which is wrong.. And if that applies to my gf, it applies to most gun newbies.

WWF has a warning in between the commercials; a lot of shows say "kids, don't try this at home"... and of course the tv show "jackass"... proved that if it's done on tv, someone will copy it...

All this whining from hollywood about how gun owners and manufacturers should take responsibility for a "dangerous product", they might take a look in the mirror and take responsibility for the dangerous product they are producing as well..

DNS..

BTW.. One of HongKongWood movies, I counted 43 rounds from Chow Young Fat's 1911 before a reload..

When did they make a 1911 magazine single stack that held 43 rounds???:rolleyes:

[Mr Grinch]

The only decent gun handling moment I have seen in a film was by "Sinbad" of all people. He played a Secret Service agent protecting the president's son. He was relieved of his badge and firearm, and actually removed the magazine and locked the slide back before placing it on his superior's desk.

Other than Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan's observation of Rule 3, that's about all I recall.

Grinch

[TheOtherOne]

How many of the complainants on this thread were unhappy about the gun-safety lecture at the end of the Russian Roulette episode of 24?Raises hand. If it had pointed people here (http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp) instead of the anti-gun, anti-civil rights AGS page then it would have been a different story. They used the safety issue to push their anti-gun politics and that makes it worse then just coming straight out and saying it.

[Calanctus]

I'm hopeful the training the cast of "Blackhawk Down" received stays with them throughout the rest of their movies. It would be nice to see a wave of safe gun handling progress through Hollywood....

Somehow I doubt it will happen, though.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Actually as a counterpoint in Bad Boys 2, check out the girl that plays the love interest/sister... she actually has pretty decent gun handling and there is a thread somewhere around here about her having to use one in a real life incident.

[Skunkabilly]

When did they make a 1911 magazine single stack that held 43 rounds???

IPSC Open division, yo :D

[twoblink]

I read in an article, I think she was raped before, and so she got herself a gun and some training.

of the 3, she was definitely the prettiest and best with a gun.. (safety-wise)

[Double Naught Spy]

twoblink, that is a no brainer. You don't want your gf to see improper gun handling, either teach her right or shelter her from such dire influences and for crying out loud stop paying for her to receive such horrible gun education!

pax is right in that the basic movie consumer carries about zero weight with movie producers on such incidental matters and not abiding by the 4 main gun rules.

ceetee is also right. The movie is meant as entertainment. That is why you were there. You want gun training videos, spend your movie elsewhere.

I am glad your gf understands everything else about sex, drugs, driving etc. Apparently she is way ahead of much of the rest of the population there. How come she is a barometer for gun handling but not for the rest of the population?

[Hkmp5sd]

Another thing I wish was applied to Hollywood is that actors that are convicted felons or those using drugs cannot touch a firearm while making movies. The other felons and dopers in the US don't get to play with guns, why should they?

[Majic]

Another thing I wish was applied to Hollywood is that actors that are convicted felons or those using drugs cannot touch a firearm while making movies. The other felons and dopers in the US don't get to play with guns, why should they?

Since when did the other felons and dopers stop getting guns? That is one part of the fictious movies that's based on real life.

[twoblink]

DNS,

There's two parts, education, and diseducation of misinformation..

I was there for entertainment (correct) and I teach her proper firearm handling..

As for felons not getting guns... You mean like Robert Downey Jr? Hollywood applauds him as a hero.. their dictionary and mine must not be the same :rolleyes:

And remember, in LA, they are trying to make it so that only criminals can get guns...:scrutiny: :barf: :cuss: :banghead:

[pistolwhipped]

Folks , while on the subject of "Bad Boys II" . What is the main hand gun that Martin uses in the movie ???? :confused:

[TXBera]

Pistol, It looks like a Sig.

Grinch, have you seen The Negotiator? SLJ unloads his beretta and empties the chamber before he places it on his bosses desk.