Dressing for Concealment


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CTGunner
June 6, 2010, 08:03 PM
How do you dress for concealment in the summer months without looking too casual? Now that the weather is turning consistently warmer I find myself pocket carrying a revolver more and more often. So, pocket carry has been my 'compromise' solution. If you carry IWB (Something like a Glock 19) or on your belt in the summer months how do you do it short of wearing a very loose fitting T-shirt...I can't wear a T-Shirt most of the time and a 'tactical vest' just isn't comfortable when the temps are pushing 100? Any ideas?

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danprkr
June 6, 2010, 08:11 PM
I use over size polo shirts un-tucked. I can hide a full size 1911 under them. Sorry no pics, but I do it sometimes.

moxie
June 6, 2010, 08:16 PM
Pocket carry in shorts or pants that are loose enough to adequately provide concealment, under a longish t-shirt or other shirt. Ruger LCR in a Uncle Mike's #3 or a Nemesis is made for this. IWB is too hot and sweaty when the temps are in the 90s and above. At least for me.

Gouranga
June 6, 2010, 08:23 PM
I Carry a M&P 40 FS IWB. Usually nice shorts, undershirt tucked in and some sort of button down short sleeved button down shirt. Look like you are not crawling out of the gutter but still pretty nice. The button down shirt is light, the undershirt catches any sweat. Works great.

smince
June 6, 2010, 08:47 PM
Oversize t shirt or polo untucked, Glock 19 in A-IWB position.

If required, G26 in a bellyband under a tucked in shirt.

DougW
June 6, 2010, 08:54 PM
Hawaiian or short sleeve casual button down shirts, light T shirt underneath, untucked. Glock 26 or Glock 19 in a paddle.

pikid89
June 6, 2010, 08:55 PM
try a columbia or World wide sportsman fishing style shirt...super super light but still nice looking

killchain
June 6, 2010, 09:38 PM
I carry a Kel-Tec P-3AT.

[edit: it's spelled P-3AT, not P-38T lol]

If I'm wearing tightie whities I can hide it. :)

Since this is an open carry state (Washington,) anything bigger I just pack on the belt and might throw a shirt over it if someone raises a stink.

Mainsail
June 6, 2010, 10:10 PM
I don't. I just carry openly.

bigfatdave
June 6, 2010, 10:15 PM
Pants with belt and a lightweight undershirt and short-sleeved button shirt. IWB thin autos with leather/Kydex holsters and a BeltMan belt (Walther PPS or compact 1911)
Winter gets the same outfit with heavier materials, no change in mode of carry.

It really isn't that hard.

dstoke
June 6, 2010, 10:52 PM
I just started to carry not too long ago and from my limited experience I can say that it really depends on your body type. I'm a pretty fit person 5'9 180 lbs mostly muscle so I can wear untucked M/L polo shirts or a short sleeve button down shirt and carry IWB at 3 or 4 o'clock no problem. I have a 32' waist so it's rather easy for me to conceal a gun (CZ 75 P01) under an untucked shirt, for for untucked button down shirts I can even carry the CZ in an OWB holster and still be okay. But like I said I don't have the most experience and it really depends on your body type

Mags
June 6, 2010, 10:56 PM
XLT polo shirts, the "T" keeps the shirt long enough after a few washes to cover up my IWB rig while stretching and bending. Of course it has to be untucked, that may be too casual for your situation. If you aren't an XLT they also make LT shirts, Cabela's has quite a few to choose from.

CTGunner
June 6, 2010, 11:00 PM
Thanks for the responses. I just went out a purchased a few "Cuban" style shirts. I plan to test them this week.

84B20
June 7, 2010, 12:12 AM
Since I'm retired I dress any way I want. I have worn a photo type vest for many years and with my Blackhawk Serpa holster and my 1911 I have not had a problem with concealment in any type of weather.

Harley Rider 55
June 7, 2010, 01:42 AM
CTGunner
You would blend in with the crowd very well if in Miami.

walksbyhimself
June 7, 2010, 02:01 AM
I typically wear long-sleeve shirts untucked over an undershirt, with the sleeves rolled up. I do this in the summer too, but Texas heat dictates lighter fabrics, and synthetic "performance fabrics". I really like plaid patterns, as they hide the gun well, and make you look like a lumberjack. Nobody messes with lumberjacks ;-)

The Lone Haranguer
June 7, 2010, 02:05 AM
Long tailed, square-hemmed shirts (often called a "camp shirt"), untucked. For times when I don't wish or am unable to wear a belt holstered gun, I favor pocket carry.

CTGunner
June 7, 2010, 08:50 PM
CTGunner
You would blend in with the crowd very well if in Miami.

I'm headed to Miami.

coondogger
June 7, 2010, 08:51 PM
In the summer I carry IWB (Walther ppk/s .380) with either Cuban or 'retro' shirts, slightly oversized. The shirts are lighter in fabric weight than a polo knit so if, god forbid, you have need to access your weapon, they're easier to flip up out of the way.

CTGunner
June 7, 2010, 08:56 PM
In the summer I carry IWB (Walther ppk/s .380) with either Cuban or 'retro' shirts, slightly oversized. The shirts are lighter in fabric weight than a polo knit so if, god forbid, you have need to access your weapon, they're easier to flip up out of the way.

This is part of why I picked up the 'Cubans'. Plus they are a little dressier.

bigfatdave
June 7, 2010, 10:01 PM
For "retro" shirts, bowlingshirt.com has some nice retro stuff with a boxy cut.

By "cuban" shirts, do you mean the 4-pocket ones?

Shadow 7D
June 7, 2010, 10:02 PM
I hate IWB, could just be the holster, my main problem is reholstering, it collapses and unless I want to take the entire holster off, it's a major production to get my pistol back in.

If I'm going for minimum exposure (like taking the kids to the local park) I just slip the KT in my pocket, so pockets are pretty important.

I'm still working it all out, but I think I want to try a pancake next, and maybe something other than a Bianchi 100.

CTGunner
June 7, 2010, 10:13 PM
By "cuban" shirts, do you mean the 4-pocket ones?

http://www.cubavera.com/Men/Casual-Shirts/icat/cuhcasualshirts

These shirts are what I'm talking about. They are really light weight.

bigfatdave
June 7, 2010, 10:15 PM
I hate IWB, could just be the holster, my main problem is reholstering, it collapses You're using the wrong kind of holster, that isn't a problem with IWB carry, it is a problem with a cheap holster.

Travis McGee
June 7, 2010, 10:29 PM
I buy Hawaiian and other bold print short sleeve shirts, one size too big, and wear them loose and untucked. On my belt at 3 oclock an IWB holster, in that my XD9. Works for me.

Travis McGee
June 7, 2010, 10:30 PM
Shadow7D: If your IWB holster collapses and won't reholster, you need a new IWB holster. My Galco leather IWB is perfect.

Shadow 7D
June 7, 2010, 11:24 PM
Dave, I thought that the bianchi 100 was one of the better IWB holsters

bigfatdave
June 7, 2010, 11:54 PM
The clip is right on top of the gun
There is no reinforcement
The holster is not custom-molded to a particular firearm

I could go on, but while the Bianchi might be made of pretty leather and look nice while on a table, no obviously it is not the best option if you ever want to re-holster. Do your pants get loose the moment you draw, too?

Do you hard-bitten Alaskans not have Kydex up in the great white north? Does it get brittle in sub-zero conditions? (in your pants?)

What a good IWB holster might look like:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dtApARtJQ9Q/SdC6d-k7N7I/AAAAAAAAANs/cjPEOqt4Dss/s800/DSCN1204.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dtApARtJQ9Q/SdC6ef-HbNI/AAAAAAAAAN0/5c4h5IzZk94/s800/DSCN1205.JPG
Now, this one is one of mine, and it isn't this pretty anymore, it does, however remain a great holster after over a year's hard use.

Notice:
- the offset clips to minimize thickness in your pants and spread the weight
- the extremely thin but rigid Kydex shell, I've heated mine and tweaked it for just the right retention by molding it into the ejection port and trigger-guard a bit extra
- the thick leather backing to keep you from getting poked (horsehide is available, I cheaped it and went with cowhide)
See how the Kydex stays open without a gun?
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dtApARtJQ9Q/SsgNMTez3mI/AAAAAAAAAXk/f-wLo8S_C3E/s400/holster%20016.JPG
This means my pants don't fall down when I draw, and I can shove the gun back in if needed. I re-holster by carefully placing the front of the slide on the body-shield and sliding in the gun with my fingers back/rearwards compared to a normal grip (I have guns with grip safeties, the habit is ingrained by practice whether the gun I'm using has one or not) the trigger is not in danger of activation, and the gun goes in easily (resistance is obvious and signals misalignment) with a nice >pop< when it goes into the two retention points mentioned above.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dtApARtJQ9Q/S9zR3bo62OI/AAAAAAAAAzY/qczNHPrjY-I/s400/DSCN2624.JPG
Here's that same holster about a month ago, notice that the leather backer has taken on a shape over time, that shape is my hip, this holster gets more comfortable as it gets uglier
The Kydex has outlasted one of the clips, the gun has taken a number of dings and scratches in the course of my life .. but the Kydex looks damn near as good as new
The bent clip was my fault, and the dings are too ... the point is, the Kydex is not the weak point here, this isn't Fobus's junk injection-molded plastic.

mockpilot
June 8, 2010, 01:16 AM
Rather than not carry in hot weather, I'll usually carry my .25 auto in a cell phone case that clips on my belt under my t-shirt.

Shadow 7D
June 8, 2010, 01:28 AM
Na dave, but you might be amazed with what the cold but of a gun feels like when it drops and goes down the crack of your, well, not pleasant

I don't think kydex would last on some days, and I wouldn't carry that way that cold, lets just say the draw would take a while and the gun probably wouldn't work anyways (hot and moist to super cold, big no no). I don't like the bianchi because it's not really comfortable, and that thing looks like a monstrosity to strap into your pants.

bigfatdave
June 8, 2010, 01:41 AM
you might be amazed with what the cold but of a gun feels like when it drops and goes down the crack of yourWith the hybrid IWB design, you don't come in contact with the gun, generally.

that thing looks like a monstrosity to strap into your pants. Not really.
It is a bit cumbersome to store, but it dies the job of keeping a handgun in just the right spot, at just the right angle, invisible to anyone, comfortable to me, and easy to re-insert.
Strapping it in is only slightly more difficult than a single-clip "clip-in pocket" holster, remember that it is fairly rigid so you just pop on one clip and then pop on the other. It is easier if you remove the gun, but I generally don't bother.

I don't think kydex would last on some daysI was joking about cold-temp Kydex, the Kydex is warmed by being in your pants, although IWB draw from under bulky winter gear will be tricky regardless of holster selection.

Don't knock IWB carry because of one inadequate holster, get something more advanced, Tucker, KHolster and CrossBreed all ship and have lots of molds available, the one I pictured is a CrossBreed, and I've bought another for a compact 1911 I pack other days since that one ... Kydex is the best way to make a rigid holster without adding steel rings to the mouth or adding bulk.

Tiomoid
June 8, 2010, 02:07 AM
Smart Carry. Works for all seasons.

bigfatdave
June 8, 2010, 02:14 AM
Works for all seasons. Well, works equally for all seasons, at least.

I can't imagine ever using such a device unless I had to go without a belt professionally, wearing scrubs or something similar.

Gouranga
June 8, 2010, 07:52 AM
I'd definitely recommend the crossbreed supertuck for the IWB holster. It was the 3rd IWB I tried for my M&P 40 FS. Once I broke it in fully, I barely know it is there. It really spreads the impact of wearing a larger firearm out and it does not collapse. You can draw/re holster without much difficulty. The sad part it was the least I spent out of the IWBs I bought.

wishin
June 8, 2010, 02:33 PM
By "cuban" shirts, do you mean the 4-pocket ones?
The traditional Guayabera is the four pocket casual outside of the pants shirt. Great for summer carry if a little looser fit is selected. Most of them are cut straight and unless you're small in the waist don't conceal the print/bulge of a firearm very well.

lbmii
June 8, 2010, 03:14 PM
I have done this on occation:
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Flynt
June 8, 2010, 04:11 PM
I haven't been carrying very long, so I may be missing something. So far, I place a low priority on having to reholster and don't understand why that would be much of an issue. I assume that I'm only going to draw my gun very rarely, if ever. If I have to, reholstering will be the least of my concerns.

CTGunner
June 8, 2010, 05:42 PM
I haven't been carrying very long, so I may be missing something. So far, I place a low priority on having to reholster and don't understand why that would be much of an issue. I assume that I'm only going to draw my gun very rarely, if ever. If I have to, reholstering will be the least of my concerns.

Generally I agree. However, if you want to train with your daily set up then drawing and reholstering is required.

Rail Driver
June 8, 2010, 05:49 PM
I have a similar problem... I'm from Detroit, but live in Florida, and here it's in the 90's every day. Dressing to conceal a Sigma .40 is difficult in this heat, to say the least. It's made more difficult by the fact that I'm a slim person. In a 3 o'clock position the grip prints in the back, and if I move the gun forwards to a 2 o'clock position the back of the slide prints in the front. Only real solution I have managed to find would be an IWB in the 1 o'clock position.

speaksoftly
June 8, 2010, 07:21 PM
For casual it's the PF-9 in an IWB holster at 6:00 and for dress it's a deepconceal.com soft shoulder holster with the PF-9 or the Sig P229R.

Shadow 7D
June 9, 2010, 11:15 PM
I've been thinking about a shoulder holster for my weak side, a plus is that it would clear my seat belt driving.

pockets
June 10, 2010, 08:23 AM
How do you dress for concealment in the summer months without looking too casual?
"Too casual" for what?
I dress the same in the summer as I do in the winter; jeans and a short sleeve shirt.
I just leave my heavy coat at home in the summer.

MikePaiN
June 10, 2010, 08:55 AM
I carry the same all the time, 1oc itw(except hiking or in the woods, that's a whole other setup). Currently its a PT709 Slim in a Highnoon Mr.Softy. I'm 6' 225lbs, athletic build and the gun disappears into just about anything, 90% of the time I'm in jeans and a tee this works the same in belted shorts with dress shirts or whatever and as long as they have a draw sting in the waist band the setup is fine with gym shorts & sweat/wind pants too.

Blackbeard
June 10, 2010, 09:53 AM
I'm seeing a lot of untucked going on here. Forgetting the fact that I live in Illinois and can't carry anyway, what would you do for those of us who work in an office where untucked simply isn't an option?

heron
June 10, 2010, 10:36 AM
I thought 'dressing for concealment' meant this . . . it won't work as well in the grocery aisle, I'm sure . . .

(sorry, couldn't help myself . . . )

bigfatdave
June 10, 2010, 07:10 PM
Blackbeard, there are plenty of tuckable IWB holsters on the market.

mroletta
June 10, 2010, 07:35 PM
I have a Crossbreed IWBH, but my preferred method of choice is my Maxpedition Jumbo EveryDayCarry. (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/JUMBO-E-D-C-4p1319.htm)

It's comfortable and has a specific pocket for CCW.

I actually get a lot of compliments on the bag..

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/catalog/9845k_1368_general.jpg

Edit: I'm 148lbs so IWB carry is difficult. I'm also 27 so the bag looks like a messenger bag etc.

NMGonzo
June 10, 2010, 08:15 PM
Pretty much a combination of the posted above.

Second set of cargo pants has a holster sewn in the strongside cargo pocket for the Bersa.

It's hot here so short sleeve shirt plus loose open shirts here are not uncommon and i take advantage of that.

Winter: Sweaters cover well my full size 1911 and a p-coat is the next level of heavy layering, so the full size 1911 goes in the p-coat pocket.

Fall and spring: I have a coat that I wear most of the time with a heavy shirt and undershirt that conceals my shoulder holster very well (Bianchi x15)

lbmii
June 11, 2010, 01:06 AM
Concerning wearing a tucked buttoned shirt with no jacket.

If you are triangular shaped with a flat gut, you can wear under your shirt a military style web belt at or above belly button height with a no frill thin cloth or thin leather holster just off center on your weak hand side. The barrel part of the pistol/holster actually can overlap above and over your regular pants and belt along with your tucked shirt. You puff the shirt up around the waist. You button your shirt with several buttons above your waist with the buttons not quite though the button holes.

This set up is highly concealed, comfortable, and allows for a very quick draw.

It only works if you're muscular with a flat tummy and a broad chest. I carried this way when I worked in a retail store. I then got too tubby for this method. But I am almost back down in weight where I can go back to this method.

Simply put, if you have the body shape for it, it is the best.

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