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Visionz45
June 10, 2010, 08:26 PM
I just found 5 boxes of old once fire Winchester brass that reads "w-w super". Anyone seen a difference between this and newer production brass. I'm thinks of working up some 180 loads with H414, this brass seems like a good candidate.

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Ateam-3
June 10, 2010, 10:39 PM
I presume you are discussing 308 or 30-06. I have a good supply of W-W brass myself. I have reloaded it several times with no problems. I have not seen any problem as compared to new Win brass.

Visionz45
June 10, 2010, 10:50 PM
yeah it .30-06

Smokey Joe
June 10, 2010, 11:17 PM
Visionz 45--Winchester brass of whatever headstamp enjoys a very good reputation with reloaders. Since it's old--you don't state HOW old; 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, what--I'd keep this lot of brass separate, keep a record of what loads were loaded into and fired from this brass, and keep an EAGLE EYE on the condition of the cases.

5 boxes--hmm, that's about 100 cases, no? About the right number for a lot of cases to reload and fire, anyhow.

I'd neck-size them, not full-length resize them--that means using them in only one rifle, a bolt gun, BTW--and just check them carefully for signs of fatigue before each new reloading cycle. FL sizing shortens the life of any case.

Signs of fatigue include: Loosening of primer pockets, development of a "stretch ring" inside the case just above the base, and cracking of necks. On firing, the side of the case might crack. Seeing any of these, in more than just a couple of the cases, I'd scrap the whole bunch. But, in the meantime, I'd have them for firing for however many reloadings the lot of cases survived in good condition.

Now, this is me. You must do what you feel safe with.

Visionz45
June 11, 2010, 12:23 AM
Thanks! Now I get to see what this 414 has to offer.

ArchAngelCD
June 11, 2010, 04:01 AM
Now I get to see what this 414 has to offer.
You will get good results with H414 and similar to using W760. I know a few reloaders who use nothing but H414 in the 30-06. I prefer H4350 personally, especially with a 180gr bullet but like I said, H414 will work well and has the correct burn rate for the bullets you are loading...

dagger dog
June 11, 2010, 06:06 AM
If they are old, were they shot in your rifle? If no then you have to full length size them first, shoot them in your rifle then neck size after that as Smokey Joe suggested.

Visionz45
June 11, 2010, 02:13 PM
I used my h4350 with the 186 ttsx's and am glad that I switched from that 4064. The 414 worked well. Just not a well I guess. Thanks

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