Open Carry Ban Defeated in Topeka, KS


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KSCCHTrainer
June 16, 2010, 07:36 AM
The Capital-Journal Created June 15, 2010 at 8:07pm
Updated June 15, 2010 at 9:10pm

Anyone older than 18 years of age in Topeka may continue to carry a loaded weapon in public because of action by the Topeka City Council on Tuesday night.
The council failed on a 3-5 vote to reinstate a law rescinded in 2007 that had banned the open-carry of guns in Topeka.
The action was taken after the council listened to 13 people speak on the topic, four in favor of reinstatement and nine opposed.
Opponents cited the U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment giving citizens the right to bear arms.
Supporters (of the ban) included Police Chief Ron Miller and assistant city attorney Kyle Smith, a former Kansas Bureau of Investigation agent.
Smith cited a U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia that state and local governments have the right to regulate the ownership and use of guns.
"They have no right to carry a loaded gun in an urban community," Smith said.
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John Parker
June 16, 2010, 09:19 AM
Oh Topeka.

takurpic
June 16, 2010, 09:54 AM
...that would be "Oh, Google". :p

Old Fuff
June 16, 2010, 11:18 AM
"They have no right to carry a loaded gun in an urban community," Smith said.

My schooling wasn't very good... :confused:

I never realized that the Founders wrote two versions of the Bill of Rights, one for "urban communities," and another one for the rest of us.

Maybe that's another reason I don't live in one of them big cities. :barf:

NavyLCDR
June 16, 2010, 01:53 PM
Supporters (of the ban) included Police Chief Ron Miller

Of course....nobody else should be able to defend themselves except for cops and criminals.

CoRoMo
June 16, 2010, 02:56 PM
Smith cited a U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia that state and local governments have the right to regulate the ownership and use of guns.
Sure, he left the gate open for this type of nonsense, but just because they CAN doesn't mean that HAVE TO. We're still a government BY THE PEOPLE, and here we see that THE PEOPLE made their decision, much to Smith's chagrin. Maybe he should vote with his feet; there are a lot of vacant homes in a number of states where his views are implemented to the fullest.

Ryanxia
July 20, 2010, 03:54 PM
So ban was defeated. I LIKE IT!

primetime
July 20, 2010, 04:17 PM
Of course....nobody else should be able to defend themselves except for cops and criminals.

Exactly....Topeka LEO's are full of this crap..Idiots...

tack
August 23, 2010, 01:26 AM
Supporters (of the ban) included Police Chief Ron Miller and assistant city attorney Kyle Smith... Hmm. The mayor or city council usually appoint a chief of police and city attorneys, and mayors, city councils must run for re-election.

How long is Topeka going to put up with Miller and Smith?

jbkebert
August 23, 2010, 01:33 AM
Topeka will probably keep putting up with these two jokers. Sad thing is a I know a good precentage of the cops in Topeka. I would not trust any of them to guard my cup of coffee let alone my family. I have been around several of them drunk bragging about how many laws they have broken themselves. But its okay since they are police. What a joke:fire:

cleardiddion
August 23, 2010, 05:03 AM
Good for the people of Topeka!

writerinmo
September 9, 2010, 12:50 AM
Lived in Topeka for a while, born and raised about an hour north. Mindset of the city government and legal beagles is that only the "elite" need firearms, the rest of the people will just use them to commit crime. Glad to see them get a wake-up call that the 2nd is alive and coming to a venue near them.

millertyme
September 9, 2010, 03:27 PM
I just moved to Topeka to go to school. I'm 30 something. So I can open-carry loaded in Topeka? When I moved here a month ago I looked up the city regs and I swore it said that open-carry of loaded firearms was prohibited. I'll have to look into this a little more closely to see who my councilperson is and which way he/she voted on this.

NavyLCDR
September 9, 2010, 06:32 PM
Here is the complete firearms section of Topeka ordinance. Discharge only is prohibited. There are no restrictions on carry/possession of firearms at all. State law is all there is in Topeka.

http://www.codepublishing.com/KS/Topeka/html/Topeka09/Topeka0940.html#9.40

CHEVELLE427
September 10, 2010, 11:59 AM
i like the idea of open carry, only because if my concealed gun was to show it wouldn't matter :neener:,
as for me carrying open , i wouldn't do it , i feel concealed gives me an edge over someone that has a gun showing.;)

the bad guy will take out the person with the open gun first, :uhoh:

in my opinion.:cool:

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