5 myths about gun control


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LWYM425
June 18, 2010, 03:22 PM
Now, if you're like me, you read that headline and think "sweet, this is the type of stuff we need to see in the news"

Turns out this is more of a soul searching article for the author. I finished it without really understanding what the point of it was. :confused:

Anyone want to share their opinion?

(retrieved from google news, "spotlight")
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/11/AR2010061103259.html

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Big_E
June 18, 2010, 03:35 PM
I like how he used a study from Berkley and a quote from Ozzy Osbourne, that really backs up his claims with quotes from experts on firearms.

Another thing, countries have tried banning guns outright and we have seen the results, maybe we should force all citizens to own a gun and see what happens there... :rolleyes:

The author also states that gun control causes prices of guns to go up for criminals, that may be true but, the point is that they are still getting them. For a gang, you sell off a few lbs of MJ along with crack and/or meth and they are able to easily afford a nice cache. Not to mention stolen weapons from car break ins and burglaries.

Why can't these writers find a qualified firearms expert who is either neutral or pro gun to help balance out other statements from Communist State Berkely?

jfh
June 18, 2010, 03:36 PM
was this:"Cook and Ludwig may know their public policy research, but they clearly don't know common American culture. Because of that, they are simply posturing to their own kind. Increasingly, hopefully, that kind is a political minority."

You'll find that quote is comment #5 in the comments section.

Similar to many other MSM outlets, the Washington Post is steeling itself for the forthcoming Supreme Court decision. They do so by publishing self-referential material from academia or from the chattering classes. It has nothing to do with any sort of "truth", only with looking 'round the room to see who agrees with you--and feeling better to see someone does.

Read the comments--last I looked, they berated this essay by about a 5:1 ratio.

Jim H.

Manco
June 18, 2010, 06:52 PM
Pitiful--just a bunch of grasping at straws and non sequitur reasoning, sometimes totally ignoring the real points that the supposed "myths" are trying to make. It wouldn't stand up even as an Internet forum post, yet it gets printed in a major newspaper. :rolleyes:

Bubba613
June 18, 2010, 07:10 PM
None of that forms a coherent argument.
Let's take them one by one:
1) It is true. Guns increase lethality. So what? They increase lethality on both sides. How many perps are shot by police every year? Maybe we should disarm the police so fewer people will die. In any case the only "practical" solution to thsi problem is total confiscation. And that isn't practical.

2) Records on gun transaction help solve crimes. Since most guns used in crimes are stolen in the first place, this is patently false. How many trace requests end up solving crimes? I would bet very few. The experience with Maryland's ballistic fingerprinting nonsense should be instructive. Millions of dollars spent, millions of gun fingerprinted, zero crimes solves.

3) This is really self defeating. The argument is that more guns in legal hands inevitably filter into the illegal market by getting stolen.
The corollary to that is that if we dont allow legal ownership then somehow illegal ownership will go away. But what do you do with the millions of guns already in illegal ownership? Tell law abiding citizens, sorry, too bad? Leaving your citizens defenseless against criminals doesn't sound like a recipe for success. In any case, stricter gun contol has not lowered crime rates in places thathave them. The opposite if anything.

4)I just don't know what to say to this. Even if it's true, so what?

5) This seems to undermine the entire argument. If you say, if Chicago's ban goes away then not much will happen, then what good did the ban do in the first place? And if the answer is nothing, then what good will a strict permit scheme like nY's do, when it amounts basically to a ban?

The article is poorly thought out and reasoned. Jsut like all gun control arguments.

BCCL
June 18, 2010, 10:53 PM
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