HIT THIS POLL -- should gun ownership be banned?


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Fetus
June 22, 2010, 06:53 AM
we were winning but the anti's are now voting and the numbers keep going down


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/06/21/2010-06-21_little_shop_of_horror_georgia_store_arrowhead_pawn_sold_nine_guns_that_made_thei.html

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lesgeaux
June 22, 2010, 07:00 AM
I think that it is just a biased poll designed to help the antis. I would have voted if the second question would have had anything to do with the first. i.e. "No, guns are not the main reason of/for crime."

merlinfire
June 22, 2010, 09:58 AM
Wow this is the most biased article I've ever read on the subject....I mean look at the title. There's a pawn shop in GA that sells guns legally and responsibly, and they call it a "little shop of horrors". Good grief

JoeMal
June 22, 2010, 10:06 AM
Voted

CoRoMo
June 22, 2010, 10:09 AM
What a bunch of bull****. Saying that "guns are too much a part of American culture and history", is a stupid, impotent argument for this liberty of ours. I would no more use that statement as the premise of the debate as I would use 'hunting' or "sporting purposes".

Just One Shot
June 22, 2010, 10:23 AM
40% yes
60% no

longdayjake
June 22, 2010, 10:31 AM
Its called poll gerrymandering. Half of us don't agree with the statement. They bank on the idea that we won't vote because of it. That way they can bring the poll numbers up to where they want them.

CLMN
June 22, 2010, 10:35 AM
A nice, unbiased poll... NOT!!!

CLMN

MisterMike
June 22, 2010, 10:46 AM
Clearly a highly biased article and a poll designed to produce a result consistent with the author's viewpoint. Still, it gives me pleasure to vote the "wrong way," even if the pro-gun choice is worded terribly.

bigalexe
June 22, 2010, 10:55 AM
We are winning 59% to 41%, yeah!

Also a good hint the article was crap is just look at the other stories that are linked, general crap all around like a monkey was let loose in a room full of feces.

Buck Snort
June 22, 2010, 11:02 AM
If our side wins you'll never hear another thing about it. If they win they'll trumpet it until the cows come home.

Bullnettles
June 22, 2010, 11:02 AM
I sent a short and sweet email to the editor asking if a ban would really stop criminals from having guns :)

His response ????

"Thanks for reading, and thanks for taking the time to write. This story generated a lot of e-mail on both sides …

Take care

Larry"

I sent an email asking why he did not answer... I have a feeling I'm dealing with one of them there brick walls :D

alohachris
June 22, 2010, 11:06 AM
What a one-sided biased piece of BS. My favorites : "5 guns were confiscated in NYC". Notice it doesn't say "used in a crime" it says confiscated.

And

"Turn a blind eye to red flags like repeat buyers". Anyone here fit that particular 'red flag' profile?

NavyLCDR
June 22, 2010, 11:13 AM
That article made me want to vommit. They should ban the sales of cars and trucks. After all their "illegal" guns that were "smuggled" into New York were done so in vehicles, right? So the dealers who sold those vehicles are just as responsible, right? Hell, tire companies put tires on those vehicles, are they responsible too? What about the gas stations that sold gas to the "smugglers", shouldn't they be responsible? And did they have to pay any tolls along the way while they were "smuggling" guns? Shouldn't the toll booth operators be responsible for letting the "smugglers" through?

Boba Fett
June 22, 2010, 11:21 AM
Voted.
41 against ownership
59 for ownership

SleazyRider
June 22, 2010, 11:26 AM
Dang, articles like this make me ashamed to report that I am a charter member and taxpayer of "The (Evil) Empire State," where said article was published. And what an empire it is! :barf:

"There are lots of guns confiscated that trace to hundreds of stores," the owner said. "We buy and sell guns legitimately. What happens after that, we don't have any control over." This says it all ... and he's right! But never let logic and facts interfere with a good story. :rolleyes:

Voted.

ambidextrous1
June 22, 2010, 11:55 AM
I just voted; it's still 59% "no".:)

lucky-gunner
June 22, 2010, 12:12 PM
MisterMike - Clearly a highly biased article and a poll designed to produce a result consistent with the author's viewpoint. Still, it gives me pleasure to vote the "wrong way," even if the pro-gun choice is worded terribly.

+1

I too voted for no other reason, then to make sure that they are unable to quote the poll. I can see the ignorant line like, "70% of Americans want to ban private gun ownership."

longdayjake - Its called poll gerrymandering. Half of us don't agree with the statement. They bank on the idea that we won't vote because of it. That way they can bring the poll numbers up to where they want them.

+1

This is why you can't trust polls. I say we look at how the American public has voted with it's dollars. During an economic downturn gun sales are at an all time high.

alohachris
June 22, 2010, 01:01 PM
What a one-sided biased piece of BS. My favorites : "5 guns were confiscated in NYC". Notice it doesn't say "used in a crime" it says confiscated.

And

"Turn a blind eye to red flags like repeat buyers". Anyone here fit that particular 'red flag' profile?

FirearmsEnthusiast
June 22, 2010, 01:20 PM
Voted =)

230therapy
June 22, 2010, 01:41 PM
Yes, gun ownership should be banned ;)

LegalAlien
June 22, 2010, 02:27 PM
Voted NO

Such biased BS makes you want to puke!!!! And they cannot even notice their own contradiction in the article:-

The city's longstanding crackdown on illegal handguns is working, officials argue, as the numbers indicate fewer weapons are making it into New York.

But this year's crime stats suggest the downward trend of gun violence is changing. Through June 13, city murders are up almost 8%, from 182 last year to 196.

Shooting incidents are up from 538 in the same time period last year to 576 this year. And the number of shooting victims rose, from 660 to 704 this year - with at least 111 people shot to death.

"Guns remain murderers' weapons of choice," Kelly said

Yep - their crackdown is working real well - just like in Chicago it seems.

searcher451
June 22, 2010, 02:37 PM
Some strange ideas regularly come out of New York. :cuss:

It must be something in the water.

Zack
June 22, 2010, 03:27 PM
Little Shop of Horror: Georgia store Arrowhead Pawn sold nine guns that made their way to New York


Little Shop of Horror???????? lmao its called a Gun store/pawn shop. If someone has a account with them please post what I have below, people need common sense


I GUESS WE COULD CALL ALL CAR DEALERSHIPS, DEATH ON WHEELS THEN HUH?
I GUESS WE COULD CALL ALL CAR DEALERSHIPS, DEATH ON WHEELS THEN HUH?

brotus2
June 22, 2010, 04:26 PM
voted 57% NO

Calibre44
June 23, 2010, 02:07 AM
Jeez and I thought this crap only happened over here. As someone whose handguns have been banned and self-defence rights eroded I find it incredible that there are Americans who donít exercise their right to own guns to protect their lives, their loved ones and their livelihoods. We are sometimes referred to as sheep on THR because we canít own guns for self-defence but surely someone who can own a gun and chooses not is truly a sheep.

Donít these people understand how important your second amendment is and what it stands for!!?

denfoote
June 23, 2010, 03:05 AM
YOU TOO BLOOMBAG...

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JoeSlomo
June 23, 2010, 03:40 AM
Donít these people understand how important your second amendment is and what it stands for!!?


No, they don't.

Most of them can't even be bothered to vote either...

Gouranga
June 23, 2010, 07:09 AM
lol
Its called poll gerrymandering. Half of us don't agree with the statement. They bank on the idea that we won't vote because of it. That way they can bring the poll numbers up to where they want them.

Like
Yes - Guns should be banned and child molesters are evil
No - Guns should not be banned because everyone needs to shoot more kittens.

Manco
June 23, 2010, 11:02 AM
Jeez and I thought this crap only happened over here. As someone whose handguns have been banned and self-defence rights eroded I find it incredible that there are Americans who don’t exercise their right to own guns to protect their lives, their loved ones and their livelihoods. We are sometimes referred to as sheep on THR because we can’t own guns for self-defence but surely someone who can own a gun and chooses not is truly a sheep.

As you know, sheep are not defined by the country they happen to live in, and although there is still an extraordinary number of non-sheep in the US, I would say that the majority of the population are sheep. From The Brothers Karamazov: "Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him." That's just how most people are, and there are always a bunch of highly belligerent sheep (many of whom are wolves in sheep's clothing) who strive to make everybody else into sheep, by force of law whenever possible. Between countries, the difference is simply a matter of the degree to which the belligerent sheep (abbreviated henceforth appropriately as BS) have dominated over the populations.

Don’t these people understand how important your second amendment is and what it stands for!!?

Nope...that is, except for the wolves pretending to be sheep--they know all too well and they want all of our guns, pronto! Even in the US, most people automatically associate guns with murder and mayhem. This is because the BS control most of the media as well as our sad excuse for an education system. We non-sheep have to educate our own in important matters such as this (probably as it should be anyway), and constantly fight to protect the US Constitution and Bill of Rights from all of the BS in power who ignore it. In fact, we've been losing ground over time until the last 15 years or so, during which the tide of battle has apparently turned, although we're still losing in some places, such as California, despite the sizable number of non-sheep residing there.

This concludes today's report on the ovine dementia pandemic. ;)

FirearmsEnthusiast
June 23, 2010, 11:08 AM
What a silly question. Maybe they should ask Venezuela and Brazil what effects gun bans have had on law abiding citizens?

AirForceShooter
June 23, 2010, 11:09 AM
Now 50/50

One reason I left

AFS

Sheldon J
June 23, 2010, 11:26 AM
50/50 so hammer it and re post in other forums..

MinnMooney
June 23, 2010, 11:33 AM
50/50 as of 10:30AM CDT

Looks like the anti-gun websites must really be pushing this survey........... OR ........ Bloomberg paid the survey taker to rig the results, like every 3rd "No" vote gets recorded as a "Yes".

Ala Dan
June 23, 2010, 11:57 AM
The poll is now tied, 50-50; get off your butt's and vote NO in this poll~! ;)

JellyJar
June 23, 2010, 12:30 PM
BS article but go vote anyway. When I did it was split evenly 50-50.

Hardtarget
June 23, 2010, 12:30 PM
If there is a problem with where a gun shows up and is used to commit a crime...L.E.O. needs to go question the person on the purchase form. THAT'S why they take information about the person that PURCHASED the firearm.

L.E.O. should go to the retailer, then (or at the same time) be talking to the one that bought the gun. Find out where the gun went...how soon after the purchase...then go to the next guy.

Law enforcement, and the anti groups, just wants to do it the easy way...blame the store!

Mark

BikerNut
June 23, 2010, 01:07 PM
Just voted, still 50/50.

Weren't there several polls taken over the past few years (and during the Heller judicial debates) by legitimate, professional polling firms that asked whether or not citizens had the right to own guns?

If I remember correctly, pro gun ownership was somewhere around 70-75%, based on a nationwide survey.

This is a managed poll and another media propaganda tool to coerce opinion in New York.

New Yorkers voted for Bloomberg, so they get the government they deserve...

Steve 48
June 23, 2010, 03:31 PM
Voted and 51% no/

Warhawk83
June 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
Voted even though the no option is bs, only 48% no at this time.

glove
June 23, 2010, 04:11 PM
I hit it. As of today :barf:

Poll Results

Should private ownership of guns be banned completely?
Yes, it would be a giant step forward in the fight against crime. 52%
No, guns are too much a part of American culture and history. 48%

WTBguns10kOK
June 24, 2010, 12:46 AM
It is a little shop of horrors. Did you see the color choices on those 10/22's? Shut em down, lol!

Sport45
June 24, 2010, 02:09 AM
Just voted.

Now it's 56% for, 44% against.....

duns
June 24, 2010, 02:45 AM
Just voted. Still 56% for, 44% against.

Victor1Echo
June 24, 2010, 08:39 AM
Rhetorically speaking, the article is writen to induce fear, and the poll is a sham the way it is written. Just more zionist garbage,

earlthegoat2
June 24, 2010, 08:48 AM
This poll is a sham.

First of all it is a NY periodical. Basically anything coming from NY pertaining to guns needs to be burned before it hits print.

Second, the guns sold in GA would not have been illegal in NY if NY followed the Constitution.

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