Glock ala FNP-45 Tactical


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NelsErik
June 23, 2010, 12:23 PM
I saw this online this morning... Does anyone actually have experience with Trijicon RMR Sight on a handgun.

TSD Advanced Combat (http://www.onesourcetactical.com/millpistolslidetoaccepttrijiconrmrsight-2.aspx)

http://www.onesourcetactical.com/images/products/detail/Package32.jpg

http://www.onesourcetactical.com/images/products/detail/IMG_1146.jpg

Is this total mall ninja, or could it be useful?

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dewingrm
June 23, 2010, 01:29 PM
I have no experience with it but I think it's useful if you're running a suppressor. I've read about it being done before and I'm sure it has merit in some situations. Just put the dot on whatever you want to shoot and pull the trigger. Not unlike some competition guns. It would be very fast.

yongxingfreesty
June 23, 2010, 01:47 PM
u can get raised sights for just about any gun if you want to run a can. i think it looks weird having a holo sight on a pistol.

Girodin
June 23, 2010, 05:08 PM
The red dot on a defensive pistol was previously not done because there were not sights well suited to it. Now with small, battery free, sights like the RMR it is starting to gain popularity. Some very no nonsense shooters have gone this route. Basically it offers the same type of advantages as a red dot sight on a rifle and we know how popular red dots are in that application.

Kingofthehill
June 23, 2010, 06:20 PM
so you have to cut the slide to accept this? Nothing designed to fit in the factory cut? Id be hesitant about chopping up one of my guns to find out i didn't like using it and then taking it off with a big gouge in my slide.

Id love to try one though.

I want to put it on my M&P .357/.40 full size

NelsErik
June 23, 2010, 07:25 PM
They supply everything... I doubt anyone having this outfit do the conversion cares about cutting up their Glock, the conversion is $1,200-$1,400 to have these guys do it...

Fat Boy
June 23, 2010, 08:42 PM
I seem to recall reading a magazine article about this recently, I don't recall with publication it was. Photograph's accompanying the article showed the gun in a holster, and in various usage situations. Seems like a pretty neat idea in some ways.

smince
June 23, 2010, 10:03 PM
I went the simple and inexpensive route to see if I liked it before doing a full conversion. So far, it is pretty good stuff:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=529086&highlight=glock+j-point

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=501974&highlight=glock+j-point

Girodin
June 24, 2010, 02:30 PM
so you have to cut the slide to accept this? Nothing designed to fit in the factory cut?

Various red dots have mounts that will fit the rear sight notch.

Girodin
June 24, 2010, 02:43 PM
They supply everything... I doubt anyone having this outfit do the conversion cares about cutting up their Glock, the conversion is $1,200-$1,400 to have these guys do it...

The RMR sight is over $400 (I don't recall their exact retail off the top of my head). A a new Glock might cost them around $440. I'm not sure what the raised suppressor pistol sights cost, say $50 just to have a figure. That's about $900 so $300 to have the slide machined and refinished isn't insane. Considering that a person might pay $500 or more for a new Glock the price isn't out of line. It is just that the RMR is an expensive little optic.

There are other companies that do this with similar prices. Bowie tactical charges $175 for the machine work and $90 to refinish the slide.

Girodin
June 24, 2010, 02:48 PM
I want to put it on my M&P .357/.40 full size

Here is a pic of an MP with a similar setup.

http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/sitebuilder/images/M_P_J-Point-480x339.jpg

smince
June 24, 2010, 07:04 PM
There are actually 3 TSD packages:

#1 is to machine your own slide ($200).

Add the RMR of your choice (RDS or Tritium), suppressor sight(s) and refinish (all extra cost options). About $900 depending on which sight you choose.

#2 is a new Lone Wolf slide machined to accept an RMR.

The Tritium RMR, slide internals (except barrel and recoil assembly), suppressor sights and refinish included in price $1100).

#3 is the above package with the battery powered RMR.

Barrel and recoil system is available as an extra charge for #2 and #3.

From my research, the tritium/fiber optic RMR generally runs $100-150 cheaper than the battery-powered model.

The red dot on a defensive pistol was previously not done because there were not sights well suited to it.Kelly McCann/Jim Grover has ran the Dr Optic (similar to the Jpoint on mine) on his combat Glock 19 for a while. Now with small, battery free, sights like the RMR it is starting to gain popularity.Again, there are two models of RMR: battery and trit/fiber optic. Gabe recommends the battery model for various reasons detailed in several of his articles on his site.I seem to recall reading a magazine article about this recently, I don't recall with publication it was. Photograph's accompanying the article showed the gun in a holster, and in various usage situations. Seems like a pretty neat idea in some ways.May/June 2010 issue of American Hnadgunner IIRC.

Girodin
June 25, 2010, 12:02 PM
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The red dot on a defensive pistol was previously not done because there were not sights well suited to it.


Kelly McCann/Jim Grover has ran the Dr Optic (similar to the Jpoint on mine) on his combat Glock 19 for a while.

I meant the whole class of small red dots, and was saying that prior to small durable red dots being on the market a red dot for a CCW gun just wasn't feasible. I was not saying that the RMR its self allowed this or that TSD or Suarez came up with the idea.

smince
June 25, 2010, 08:52 PM
I know :)

I was just pointing out that it isn't really a new concept. It's been experimented off and on before. But the milled slide/RMR really has opened the door to it being a practical addition.

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