Ruger LCR .357


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Wade Wilson
June 24, 2010, 05:05 PM
How do you guys feel about the new LCR in the .357, think it will be a worthy competitor in the conceal carry competition?

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inthelineofire
June 24, 2010, 05:15 PM
JMO, but I'm not a fan. There is a thread around here somewhere about the LCR and problems with flame cutting. I'd opt for a Smith 442 any day of the week.

oasis618
June 24, 2010, 05:17 PM
JMO, but I'm not a fan. There is a thread around here somewhere about the LCR and problems with flame cutting. I'd opt for a Smith 442 any day of the week.
442 is nice but not an option if looking for a .357.

96projectz24
June 24, 2010, 05:18 PM
There are threads everywhere about every gun made that has had issues and for the most part aren't mass recalls. You sure there's never been an issue with a S&W 442. I just picked up an LCR, you're missing out on a great weapon by writing it off as garbage so fast.

inthelineofire
June 24, 2010, 05:23 PM
Certainly not writing it off as "garbage." I just would opt for a Smith with the same features. I understand the 442 is not available in .357. They are fine looking pieces, but from my personal experience, Smith and Wesson has higher quality. You get what you pay for. I do, however, LOVE my LCP.

Old Fuff
June 24, 2010, 05:38 PM
I am sure they will sell like hotcakes - but not to the Old Fuff. The LCR is an interesting platform, but an ultra-light .357 Magnum leaves me cold, regardless of who makes it. Most users won't be able to make fast but accurate follow-up shots and basketball sized patterns at bad breath distance is playing long odds.

Wade Wilson
June 24, 2010, 06:03 PM
Old Fuff,

You would recommend sticking with the 38 spl, with a light weight snubby?

oasis618
June 24, 2010, 06:19 PM
I am sure they will sell like hotcakes - but not to the Old Fuff. The LCR is an interesting platform, but an ultra-light .357 Magnum leaves me cold, regardless of who makes it. Most users won't be able to make fast but accurate follow-up shots and basketball sized patterns at bad breath distance is playing long odds.
Agreed. I love my little LCR CT but I'm not so sure I'd be interested in firing .357 magnums out of it. I've fired one of those S&W 12 oz. .357 jobby jobs and that isn't something I think I need to do again. ZING!!! :eek: ;)

gordy
June 24, 2010, 06:34 PM
S&W 640 is what you want.

Old Fuff
June 24, 2010, 06:48 PM
You would recommend sticking with the 38 spl, with a light weight snubby?

Yes I would, or at least I wouldn't go over .38 Special in this platform. In a larger, all-steel snubby I particularly like my 5-shot /.44 Special Taurus model 445. If one was determined to go to a small platform in .357 Magnum I would recommend Ruger's SP 101. Going still larger I like Smith & Wesson's K-frame models with at least a 3 inch barrel.

As a side note: The Border Patrol's late shooting ace (and experienced gunfighter), Bill Jordan recommended the little .22 WRM as an ideal choice in the lightweight aluminum/steel J-frame revolvers that were available during his day. But he was a capable of putting his bullets exactly where he wanted to, even under extreme stress.

hemiram
June 25, 2010, 02:35 AM
I just don't even understand the appeal of the LCR at all. I shot the .38 one recently, and it just reinforced my original opinion. I would pick any number of small steel revolver over one, anytime.

L-Frame
June 25, 2010, 03:17 AM
I am intrigued by the LCR in .357, but not to shoot .357's out of. I carry in an iwb anyway,not pocket, so the extra 5 ounces means nothing to me except in dampening recoil. I like the more weight and sturdier construction so I can shoot .38 +P's out of it easier and not have to worry about the gun coming apart.

Lucky Derby
June 25, 2010, 11:05 AM
The LCR is interesting but I have no use for .357 in any gun that small. IMHO the trade off between power and recoil/muzzle blast just isn't worth it in anything with less than 3" of barrel. I stick with .38's in the shorter barrels.
Others may disagree, many do.
That said the LCR appears to be a decent, although homely weapon. I would consider one in .38 if I didn't already have 2 revolvers that filled that role.

TarDevil
June 25, 2010, 02:33 PM
When the LCR hit the market in .38, I wrote Ruger to see if they might chamber the gun in .327 Fed... just seemed to make more sense to me than .357. They said they had no such plans for that gun. I've read elsewhere that the .327's 45,000 psi is too much for the LCR.

LCR in .357 wouldn't interest me except for the reasons stated by L-Frame.

Girodin
June 25, 2010, 04:13 PM
I have shot a fair number of rounds including a good many +p loads through the .38 spl LCR.

As far as revolvers go I like the LCR and in my experience it compares favorably with Smith J frames as a carry piece. Shooting hotter .38 loads makes me think I wouldn't want to shoot too many hard hitting .357 mag rounds in a .357 LCR. I'll use my SP101 (a gun I have used to shoot hand loads I wouldn't dream of putting one of the light weights) for that purpose. Some shooters have found the recoil of the .38 spl LCR to be objectionable, particularly the +p loads. The .357 LCR with .38s might be a better choice for them because of the extra weight.

snooperman
June 25, 2010, 05:22 PM
as quick follow-up shots would be rather difficult . I have the Ruger SP101 and that would be as light as I would want to go. To me, the 38 special is hard to be for a carry gun.

snooperman
June 25, 2010, 05:31 PM
which weighs about 16 oz and it is all I need in a light 38 special.

The Lone Haranguer
June 25, 2010, 06:08 PM
Too light for full powered .357 loads, IMO, although at 17 ounces it might be OK with a "medium velocity" load.

rd2007
June 26, 2010, 04:51 PM
Is this thing for sale yet?

22-rimfire
June 27, 2010, 06:37 AM
Not a gun I would be interested in. I would stick to the light 38spl revolvers. I'd go with a steel frame for a 357 mag.

93PT92
June 28, 2010, 12:27 AM
Totally hearsay, but I've heard mention they're full alloy frames, as opposed to poly over alloy for the 38s, or something like that. Worth googling. Threads I've read elsewhere had interest on the aspect of an LCR that's less polymer and more metal. Still mainly for 38 use.

EDIT:

Didn't notice your nick at first. What up Deadpool?

rd2007
June 28, 2010, 06:09 PM
I am actually interested in buying one of these. Does anyone know a place that has them for sale? Online would be ideal.

NG VI
June 28, 2010, 07:29 PM
At 17 ounces it should be good to go with medium-light .357 loads, or hot .38 which wouldn't be very comfortable in a lighter gun. If it were the original 12-13 ounce LCR I'd shoot .357 out of it if I were getting paid to. But something like a 140 grain bullet going about a thousand feet per second, maybe a hair faster, that wouldn't be too outrageous and is a set of numbers I would feel very good about.

antiquus
June 28, 2010, 07:41 PM
Well, I can hit inside the 5 ring with my LCR at 50 yards, so anyone dissing LCR accuracy hasn't any experience with them.

BUT, I am also sure that considering the pain that Buffalo Bore 38 Spl +P Heavy gives when shooting them out of a 13oz gun, I'd have no interest in a .357 version even at 17oz.

Fat Boy
June 28, 2010, 08:40 PM
I cannot imagine shooting a 357 mag out of this platform, but then I can't imagine shooting a .357 mag out of any lightweight snubnose revolver-

I appreciated Old Fuff's comment about Bill Jordan-I seem to remember Mr. Jordan once talking favorably about the .22 mag as a viable home defense round- some would consider that advice heretical today

Big Bill
June 28, 2010, 08:48 PM
I looked at one recently and didn't buy it. I bought a SP101 instead. I don't want to try and shoot .357 mag out of a featherlight.

TwoNiner
June 29, 2010, 02:21 AM
I'm interested in one of these. Not to shoot .357s out of, but rather because the .357 frame is made out of steel and weighs 4oz more than the .38-only aluminum version. I like overbuilt. I have a 2.25" sp101 and I think the LCR would compliment it.

Now here's the big question--how is the LCR trigger?

Natty Bumpo
June 29, 2010, 06:51 AM
I've been looking at the LCR. I LUV my S&Ws (M65,M66) but I thought the trigger on the LCR was better- very smooth and less stacking.

NB

sonier
June 29, 2010, 09:31 AM
Ive shot a many pistols that have nearly twisted out of my hand entirely from recoil, and yes i was holding on tight as i could at all times, i like the 357 magnum LCR i would consider it, because 357 magnum has a really good one shot stop chance. Long as i can hold on to the gun i dont care about recoil, hell my life would be on the line if i needed to use a LCR so why care about looks or recoil? this is a SD pistol its what it was designed for. Also i reload so short barrels wont be a problem if i use fast burning powders.

EnsignJimmy
June 29, 2010, 10:14 AM
Uhh . . . yeah. I've shot .357 Magnum out of snubbies lighter than my SP101 and found the experience to be the sort of hand-numbing experience I'd never want to repeat again, ever. Don't get me wrong, I liked the .38 Special LCR, but for .357 Magnum I think I'll stick to my big hunk-o-steel SP101.

Rob1109
June 29, 2010, 11:39 AM
The flame cutting issue was addressed on another board. The jist of the comment was that when a light-for-caliber round was used (e.g. .38 spc. w/110gr.) the timing of the powder burn vs. the time the round leaves the chamber and enters the forcing cone does not allow for complete powder burn within the chamber resulting in excess powder burn between the chamber and the forcing cone, resulting in the flame cutting. This comment wa from a life-long gunsmith. I guess I will acquess to his expertise. I also hope I have been able to explain his comment w/o distortion. Best.....

Rob1109
June 29, 2010, 11:44 AM
I agree completelywith EnsignJimmy! The LCR with +P rounds is NOT pleasent...let alone with a .357! I'm really not a fan of the .357 in my 101! I keep Buffalo Bore .38 158Gr.SWCHP GC +P for indoor use and a speedloader with Silvertips for last ditch....Best.....

Rob1109
June 29, 2010, 12:14 PM
This is a GREAT thread for reloading this round for short barrels...and the concept of fast burning powders in short barrels. This guy did his homework with impressive results. When I reload for this round I will use his choice of powder/bullets. Best....

http://rugerforum.net/reloading/22449-trying-duplicate-buffalo-bore-38-spl-p-158-gr-lswchp-gc.html

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