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Walkalong
June 24, 2010, 06:11 PM
I foolishly traded away a 4" 686 ND and a 6" 586-4 and have been missing them, especially the four inch gun. I fixed that this week. I sold a 2" Colt Lawman to fund it. The Colt was nice, but just didn't flip my switch.

I may put a smaller red dot on it, or just keep it like it is. Five years ago I thought red dots on handguns were a pox (especially revolvers), but now that my eyes are not so good anymore (:o), I think of them as more of a very helpful shooting tool that I can live with on a few guns.

Anyway, I have a 586 again. :D

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BullfrogKen
June 24, 2010, 06:21 PM
That looks like it's in great shape. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Sniper X
June 24, 2010, 06:31 PM
that is a beauty.

NG VI
June 24, 2010, 07:34 PM
Love the 4" L frame. My first revolver was a 6" 586, I miss it. Sold it to fund a 4" 686 that turned out to have a better trigger.

rondog
June 24, 2010, 07:47 PM
Suh-weet!!! I want a 6".

Ratdog68
June 24, 2010, 07:54 PM
Love it... my 4" 686 has the sweetest factory trigger I've ever squeezed off. Congrats on the new one !

MrBorland
June 24, 2010, 08:28 PM
Very nice. Congrats.

We (I) expect a range report soon. And with that UltaDot and good loads, we (I) expect no less than 50 yard clover leafs! :D

bluetopper
June 24, 2010, 10:08 PM
I bought a 6" 586 no dash, brand new in 1981 when I was 19 years old for $230 and I foolishly traded it off 15 years ago. I'll always miss it.
Jobs were plentiful then and I had a good one, still living with my parents and had lots of disposable income. I feel sorry for today's youth. Seems the majority of them are nearly penniless.

Walkalong
June 24, 2010, 10:23 PM
we (I) expect no less than 50 yard clover leafs!
Uh-oh, the pressures on now. :uhoh: :cool: :D

I'll see what I can do one of these days, but you may have to lower your expectations. ;)

Ratdog68
June 24, 2010, 11:39 PM
Izzat sorta like "no child left behind"? (No pressure). :D

Oro
June 25, 2010, 02:18 AM
That is a very nice one. I spotted on on the little screen the other week, one of the bad guys was using one in the season finale of "Justified" (sans the optics). A very nice touch, I thought.

ArchAngelCD
June 25, 2010, 02:33 AM
Well done AJ, looks like a great revolver in great shape. Don't forget the range report.

BTW, I feel your pain, "but now that my eyes are not so good anymore." Yup, I feel your pain buddy...

MrBorland
June 25, 2010, 09:36 AM
we (I) expect no less than 50 yard clover leafs!


Uh-oh, the pressures on now.

I'll see what I can do one of these days, but you may have to lower your expectations.

Well, since I can't do it, I'm hoping someone else can, lol.

Seriously, though, it's a beaut of a gun and ought to shoot well.

I'm warming up to the aesthetics of optics on handguns since I put an UltraDot on my new MkIII, my first optics on a handgun. Can't say I'm any better with it, as it seems to take some getting used to (the gun and the optic). That, or my problems are bigger than just aiming well ;)

content
June 25, 2010, 10:09 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // I'd like to find its brother the 4" is a great size/weight.

I enjoy my 6" 586, but have not found a 4" for sale. I did find a 4" Ruger Security Six that will do.

I hope you get years of enjoyment out of yours.

I may be needing some eye help soon myself, not looking foward to the adjustments eye glasses will bring , the red dot might put that off for a bit longer. Good idea.

Walkalong
June 25, 2010, 11:08 AM
since I put an UltraDot on my new MkIII
I have red dots on a Trailside and a Buckmark. I most certainly shoot them better with the red dot sights vs irons. I still do respectably with irons, but I can't match a Red Dot set up.

Guillermo
June 25, 2010, 12:59 PM
that is a good looking piece

BTW, I too used to think that optics or revolvers were horrendous

Opinions change with diminishing eyesight

trex1310
June 25, 2010, 10:18 PM
I happened upon a 6" M586-1 in nickle unfired. It's a beauty.

Ratdog68
June 25, 2010, 10:24 PM
Yum !!!! That's a beaut trex1310 ~

Publius1688
June 25, 2010, 10:34 PM
Well done--that's a beauty. I love my 4" 586. Smoothest, sweetest trigger around, just enough heft to handle the hot loads, but not to heavy for a winter-carry. There's just something about a blued Smith.

buckeye8
June 25, 2010, 10:53 PM
Good for you! I jumped on the 586 bandwagon about a year ago:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj168/baseballfan1photos/000_0009.jpg?t=1277520276

I picked mine up last year for $375. It is a 4 inch no-dash, 1980 or 1981 I think. The trigger is incredibly smooth in DA, and in SA, you almost just have to "think" about pulling it, and the hammer comes down. It's an absolute pleasure to shoot.

Not sure what these really go for, but $375 sounded great to me at the time. It has some freckles on the sideplate and wear around the muzzle, but it's a good shooter. It's not mint by any means, but that just makes it easier to carry without feeling bad about it.

I'd like to get a decent brown/tan colored leather holster for it, but haven't had any luck yet. Any of you 586 guys know of a good one?

Confederate
June 25, 2010, 11:19 PM
Yes, I sold my 686 4-incher. Now I'm left with this beautiful 6-incher, which has (sadly) never been fired.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW686.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW686_2c.jpg

Notice the stamped barrel, which is very rare. Does anyone
have a 586 or 686 with a stamped side plate? This is a very
early model.

buckeye8
June 25, 2010, 11:37 PM
Confederate, you can't see it in the pictures very well, but mine has the stamped sideplate. I forget when they stopped doing it, but it was pretty early on if I recall.

Ratdog68
June 25, 2010, 11:48 PM
Yes, I sold my 686 4-incher. Now I'm left with this beautiful 6-incher, which has (sadly) never been fired.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW686.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW686_2c.jpg

Notice the stamped barrel, which is very rare. Does anyone
have a 586 or 686 with a stamped side plate? This is a very
early model.
Otay, I'll bite. What's the signifigance of the "no dash" comments? And, my 686 ("no dash") has the same barrel stampings as your pix (mine's a 4"). Mine doesn't have the S&W logo on the R/H side plate though... mine's stamped on the L/H side plate.

buckeye8
June 26, 2010, 12:09 AM
Whenever Smith & Wesson makes a change, or more typically a small set of changes in design and/or engineering, to an in-production gun, they indicate it by starting a new "dash" series for that model number. A "no dash" gun, simply refers to it being the original production configuration for that model number.

A new dash (from -3 to -4, for example) may indicate any number of changes, good or bad or neutral. It could be a change from a forged trigger to a MIM trigger, the addition of an internal lock, the transition from a hammer-mounted firing pin to a frame-mounted firing pin, a different type of steel in a certain part, the type/process of finish, that sort of thing.

A 586 no dash simply means it is the original early-80's configuration: Forged hammer with hammer-mounted firing pin, forged trigger, no internal lock, walnut target grips with S&W medallion, etc. At some point, I believe all or most of those components were changed. This is pretty much the story with most of the Smith and Wesson revolver line. Thus, a new 686-6 would be the "same gun" as a 686 no dash, in that they are the same model number and are the same basic gun, but there are a considerable amount of differences between the two guns. How big or small those differences are is a matter of (much, intense) debate.

In addition, sometimes changes are made that S&W does not indicate with a new "dash". For example, per the earlier conversation, the S&W stamp on the sideplate was removed from the 586 at some point early in production. If my information and memory are correct, there was no dash to designate this specific change.

If you have questions about this stuff, THR is the place to ask. There are some real Smith and Wesson revolver buffs here who seem to know every "dash" and other little detail by heart!

Ratdog68
June 26, 2010, 12:42 AM
Zestay !!! Thanks for that "buckeye8"... appreciate that.

I bought mine "new" in '84 in Juneau, AK while enroute to Kotzebue, AK to go to work for the P.D. there. Don't know how long mine sat on the shelf at the store in Juneau. I got mine for a fair price of about $300, but I think he found the best one he had for me. The trigger is just WAY nice from day one. I was good friends with his step-daughter and we got along just fine.

I'd never consider parting with mine.

PO2Hammer
June 26, 2010, 10:58 AM
Nice revo Walkalong.
I'm thinking of a Ultradot for my .357 as well now that it's socially acceptable.
Are there any distortions that might cause eye strain when you have both eyes open?
I have a Reflex sight that has slight magnification, maybe 1.1X, that seems to bug my eyes after a while.

Walkalong
June 26, 2010, 01:54 PM
I only shot it a little bit today. I mostly shot the Trooper to get some numbers. I shot two groups with the 586 and a few other shots. The Ultra Dot was very clear and using both eyes shooting at lumps on the berm seemed to do well, and although it wasn't enough to give a good judgment, I think it will do fine for that. The field of view is small, as well as the dot. It isn't for speed shooting, but will certainly work well for target shooting which is what is is designed for. It will do fine for general plinking as well. I was impressed enough with it that right now I have no plans yet to switch it out.

The rifle range was busy with a match, and the longer pistol pits were full, so all I shot was a 7 yard target through the chrono. I wasn't at my best today. I can certainly shoot a better group (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=106916&d=1255194567) with the Trooper than I did today, but it does illustrate how much difference the red dot makes for someone who can't see the sights like they used to. It is soooo much easier to shoot a good group if you know where the gun is pointed for sure.

Shot at 7 yards through the chrono at 5 yards. Numbers on target. I adjusted the Ultra Dot after the group. I left it a bit low at 7 yards, but centered the POI. The temps have been somewhere between hot and hades here the last couple of weeks. It was 96 degrees in the shade mid morning at the range today.

Walkalong
July 3, 2010, 08:27 PM
Certainly not my best effort, but here it is. 25 yards. Yanked one down badly. I shot six loads today. The two proven ones shot pretty well considering I wasn't that steady today, a couple more shot "OK", and a couple shot poorly.

This target is 125 Gr Powerbonds with a heavy taper crimp over 9.1 Grs of N340 set off with a WSP primer. That load runs between 1325 and 1350 out of 6" barrels and averaged 1286 FPS @ 96 degrees last time out from the 4" 586. (The one hole group in the target in the last post)

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=123633&stc=1&d=1278203188

Brian Williams
July 3, 2010, 08:41 PM
While I like 4" 586s I tend more towards a 581 and have almost gotten another 586 to delug and round butt. That said i would like a 6" with an adjustable front sight for longrange shooting.

Ratdog68
July 3, 2010, 10:20 PM
That still looks like perforated bad guy in my book Walkalong. Fine gun.

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