I Open Carried Today - people's reactions


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johntaylorny
June 25, 2010, 08:10 PM
I opened carried at work today (my own company inside a building that I own). Open carry is legal in my state and I have a CCW. I was dressed nice in biz casual attire. Carried on a hip holster.

Anyway we have customers come in to pick things up now and then.

As far as people's reactions...let's just say that people do not take kindly to a person wearing a gun. Approx 90% of the public looked at me all weird, wouldn't talk to me, gave me the cold shoulder, and acted in a way to avoid me at all costs.

I guess open carry is not a good idea.

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General Geoff
June 25, 2010, 08:21 PM
As far as people's reactions...let's just say that people do not take kindly to a person wearing a gun. Approx 90% of the public looked at me all weird, wouldn't talk to me, gave me the cold shoulder, and acted in a way to avoid me at all costs.

I've been open carrying for years, and I'd say only ~5% of the public even notice, and maybe 1% care one way or the other. Most who have cared, are very supportive.

It must be either a regional thing, or the demographics of your store.

parsimonious_instead
June 25, 2010, 08:23 PM
Granted it was in a pretty rural area, but I had my first OC experience in Vermont while taking some tactical classes near Lake Carmi.
Lunchtime rolled around (with steamroller speed, since we were having so much fun) and I asked the instructor what his preference was, since I was renting/borrowing one of his expensive Kimbers (the other classmates brought their own pistols).
He said, "go on into town with it, if you like." I shrugged my shoulders, kept the weapon holstered and ate twice at the lakeside diner... in neither case did anyone seem to notice, care or make comments.

General Geoff
June 25, 2010, 08:24 PM
johntaylorny, did you happen to be acting nervously, fidgeting with your sidearm, or otherwise actively drawing attention to it?

inSight-NEO
June 25, 2010, 08:24 PM
As far as people's reactions...let's just say that people do not take kindly to a person wearing a gun. Approx 90% of the public looked at me all weird, wouldn't talk to me, gave me the cold shoulder, and acted in a way to avoid me at all costs.

As has been mentioned before, this could be a demographic issue in terms of the "general" publics view of openly displayed weaponry.

I guess open carry is not a good idea.

I would not jump to this conclusion just yet.

When it is indeed legal to openly carry, then you have that established right. If others do not acknowledge or agree with this (due to their own lack of weapons education and/or lack of knowledge regarding various laws specific to CC/OC or maybe simply due to their own media induced fear), that is their hangup and hence, should not necessarily be your problem.

In addition, as the law permits, whether or not OC is a good idea is for you to decide, not others. What I mean is, it is up to you to determine when OC would be more beneficial vs CC, given various scenarios you personally may/may not encounter. Public misconception, however, should not be the driving force behind such a decision, IMHO.

Just continue using your "right" with a high sense of maturity and awareness. Let others "less in the know" think what they will as this may simply be unavoidable. Just do not abuse the "right" and if the opportunity presents itself, educate others.

If, however, you find it hard to dismiss the reactions that you receive during OC, then simply go back to CC. Nothing wrong with that either. Having said this, I strongly feel that you should never, ever be ashamed or hesitant in exercising your right (just use a healthy dose of prudence).

While you cannot always control public reactions, you are in complete control of your own actions. Be safe out there!

Mags
June 25, 2010, 08:31 PM
What I often wonder is why do people react so negatively to OC? I CC myself since I don't want the attention, but how many BGs are going to open carry? How do onlookers automatically assume you are not a cop, security, the property owner, or a law abiding citizen. The problem is with the uneducated onlookers not the OCer. Blame the people not the gun.

TheProf
June 25, 2010, 09:38 PM
Why do people react so negatively to OC? Hmmm....let me guess. They realize that the masses are "not so noble". (Think...Hurricane Katrina looting, etc) When a person OC, it is a reminder to others that "the man with the gun" have the power of life and death in their fingers. It's not a very comforting thought for many that "ordinary people" can have such power. (I know...makes no sense... but I'm answering your question.)

Is this logical? Of course not. Cars...those two ton vehicles are just as deadly...but we would never think of outlawing those things.

Do I support OC. Of course!!! Would I open carry? Maybe not...but I do want that option.

When a person chooses to exercise their right to legally OC, does it support our "Right to Bear Arms" cause? Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Just remember, if you OC...you remind others of this important right. Which is a good thing. On the other hand, if you OC with the "in your face" attitude towards the "sheeple"... it could create a backlash...and who knows...laws may change and OC becomes illegal in your area.
You must exercise wisdom with OC. Dress and act appropriately when OC... look and act professional...choose the time and place so as to not scare the public.. I guess its one of those judgement calls...

CTGunner
June 25, 2010, 09:43 PM
On the other hand, if you OC with the "in your face" attitude towards the "sheeple"... it could create a backlash...and who knows...laws may change and OC becomes illegal in your area.
You must exercise wisdom with OC. Dress and act appropriately when OC... look and act professional...choose the time and place

Bingo.

svaz
June 25, 2010, 10:19 PM
Could it be your perception? If you stop and actually people-watch, most folks are pretty oblivious to the world around them and, if not exactly hostile, unneighborly to strangers in general.

wishin
June 25, 2010, 10:27 PM
How did your employees react? Do you allow them to carry at work?

Manco
June 25, 2010, 10:34 PM
Simply put, a great many people are afraid (i.e. have an irrational fear) of guns.

armoredman
June 25, 2010, 10:41 PM
I am sorry for the negative reactions, and hope it doesn't hurt your business. I open carried for years until AZ got a CCW law, and got mine as fast as I could. I open carry in uniform, but that's normal. :) I have gotten negative reactions, but by and large most people ignored it or were oblivious.

yeti
June 25, 2010, 10:48 PM
Granted it was in a pretty rural area, but I had my first OC experience in Vermont

Wait until the flatlanders start showing up, then the fun starts.

Zack
June 25, 2010, 11:30 PM
OC= bad idea, crim walks in store he sees your gun he robs you. OC is only good if you are waiting on your CCW and need to protech your self, or go in a group with other gun owners.

Mags
June 25, 2010, 11:36 PM
OC= bad idea, crim walks in store he sees your gun he robs you. OC is only good if you are waiting on your CCW and need to protech your self, or go in a group with other gun owners. What a load of BS, the only documented case of such an instance was found to be a scam.

kingpin008
June 25, 2010, 11:44 PM
OC= bad idea, crim walks in store he sees your gun he robs you. OC is only good if you are waiting on your CCW and need to protech your self, or go in a group with other gun owners.

If this were true, why don't police officers CCW? They're out there every day with an exposed weapon - what's to stop the badguys from just sneaking up on them and wreaking havoc?

Many thousands of private citizens OC every day. I'd love to see a list of instances detailing the type of situation you describe above. I'll bet you money that the number of occurrences versus number of regular OC'ers is so small as to be insignificant.

FTSESQ
June 25, 2010, 11:48 PM
Me thinks me smell the stink o' troll... If I be wrong, I apologize later

Zack
June 25, 2010, 11:52 PM
(edit wrong thing)

I have never seen a person OC only cops.

Maybe its just the area.

Mudinyeri
June 26, 2010, 12:13 AM
I was in a restaurant for lunch yesterday. Two men and a woman walked in the front door. I noticed immediately that both men were open-carrying. I could not see a gun on the woman. Upon noticing the openly carried guns, I scanned the two men. One wore a T-shirt that had the logo of the local PD mounted officers on it. The other wore a plain T-shirt. Both wore jeans. Their guns were all black. The woman was inconspicuously dressed. Both men were of sturdy build. I sized them up as off-duty cops but kept an eye on them.

I was with a group of about 10 people and I didn't notice one other person's eyes even pick up on the weapons.

All that to say, unless you draw attention to your gun or wear a gun that stands out (e.g. silver against dark clothes), I'd be willing to bet very few of the members of the general public will even notice.

Mags
June 26, 2010, 12:17 AM
but kept an eye on them. Why!?
How many criminals open carry!?

XxWINxX94
June 26, 2010, 12:20 AM
Maybe your community/area is liberal and don't believe you have the right to OC.

NavyLCDR
June 26, 2010, 12:29 AM
I guess open carry is not a good idea.

I would appreciate it if you would not attempt to make sweeping statements applicable to me. Open carry is not a good idea for you. It is perfectly fine and acceptable to me, thank you.

I sized them up as off-duty cops but kept an eye on them.

I would keep an eye on off-duty cops as well. Now, if you thought they required more of your attention simply because they were carrying guns, I too would like to know why? Twin brothers are standing in line at Wal Mart, one is wearing a gun, the other isn't. Would you feel differently about the one wearing the gun?

The idea that someone must be watched because they are carrying a gun comes straight from the Brady Bunch and other anti-gun groups' propaganda. The gun means nothing, it is only an inanimate object.

Mike P.
June 26, 2010, 12:44 AM
That is generally how normal, sane people in the real world view open carry johntaylorny. I'll catch a ration of a four letter word for this. But internet gun forums are not the real world, even ones as well moderated as THR.

kingpin008
June 26, 2010, 01:00 AM
That is generally how normal, sane people in the real world view open carry johntaylorny. I'll catch a ration of a four letter word for this.

Well, seeing as how you just questioned the normality and sanity or most of the members of this board, perhaps you'd be better off leaving us nutjobs and finding somewhere else to post.

And btw, if "most people" view OC that way, frankly that's tough. Maybe one day they'll suck it up and get used to the fact that just because someone has a pistol on their waistband doesn't mean they're getting ready to commit mass murder.

Cosmoline
June 26, 2010, 01:02 AM
One reason I love Alaska. I've walked into a hippy granola store here with an M-91 Mosin strapped to my back and nobody batted an eye.

Maybe we're all abnormal and insane around here.

longdayjake
June 26, 2010, 01:03 AM
You may think what you want about open carry but I don't do it for two reasons.

1. I don't like drawing attention to myself. (I like to think thats how I have stayed out of trouble all these years).
2. I am paranoid about people trying to touch it. (I spent some time in law enforcement and I HATED it when people fixated on my gun or even stood close to me. I liked people to talk to ME and not my gun/authority).

For those reasons I disliked open carry even as a LEO. If you ever have someone touch or try to touch your gun while you are carrying you know how I feel.

Gryffydd
June 26, 2010, 01:12 AM
I've walked into a hippy granola store here with an M-91 Mosin strapped to my back and nobody batted an eye.
Try it again with the bayonet attached :D But then you probably wouldn't fit through the door...

cloudcroft
June 26, 2010, 01:17 AM
"I guess open carry is not a good idea."

Wow. Based on one personal experience, you came to that immediate conclusion. How limited you must be...or just ignorant.

At first, however, I thought you were just an anti-OC troll. And maybe you are.

-- John D.

WCSO
June 26, 2010, 01:26 AM
You may think what you want about open carry but I don't do it for two reasons.

1. I don't like drawing attention to myself. (I like to think thats how I have stayed out of trouble all these years).
2. I am paranoid about people trying to touch it. (I spent some time in law enforcement and I HATED it when people fixated on my gun or even stood close to me. I liked people to talk to ME and not my gun/authority).

For those reasons I disliked open carry even as a LEO. If you ever have someone touch or try to touch your gun while you are carrying you know how I feel.
You don't EVER let anyone touch your gun as a LEO or otherwide. In my opinion "Thems fightin words".

General Geoff
June 26, 2010, 01:28 AM
You don't EVER let anyone touch your gun

Well, there is a difference between an innocent brush against it and an intentional grab. Wisdom is knowing which is which.

WCSO
June 26, 2010, 01:45 AM
You may think what you want about open carry but I don't do it for two reasons.

1. I don't like drawing attention to myself. (I like to think thats how I have stayed out of trouble all these years).
2. I am paranoid about people trying to touch it. (I spent some time in law enforcement and I HATED it when people fixated on my gun or even stood close to me. I liked people to talk to ME and not my gun/authority).

For those reasons I disliked open carry even as a LEO. If you ever have someone touch or try to touch your gun while you are carrying you know how I feel.
I took that statement to mean a deliberate contact with the gun. People are always wanting to touch or look at your gun and that isn't something you allow to happen.

cleardiddion
June 26, 2010, 02:20 AM
I've been OC'ing for over a year now.
Most people don't even notice much less say anything.
Heck, I've even OC'd on Pearl Street in Boulder (you know about it if you live in CO. It's basically the hippie/liberal captical of the area) and I've never had a problem.
At most all I get is some inquisitive stares and maybe a few questions.

nalioth
June 26, 2010, 02:50 AM
I find all posts in this thread without a location mentioned to be a waste of time for everyone involved.

MD_Willington
June 26, 2010, 03:35 AM
Open carry around here is not a problem, next door in Moscow Idaho it will get you a 10% discount at VJs BBQ

yeti
June 26, 2010, 03:50 AM
Every once and a while someone comes up with some really useful and/or valuable information!

next door in Moscow Idaho it will get you a 10% discount at VJs BBQ

Zoidberg523
June 26, 2010, 03:53 AM
Wow, lots and lots of you are taking this guy's experience mighty personally. You all seem a bit touchy on the OC issue. I realize it's a right, it's the law, and it works perfectly fine for most people. The OP was just telling us about his experience.

Are you going to consider everyone who has a bad experience with a firearm to be a troll? Give me a break. :barf:

Six
June 26, 2010, 07:06 AM
It's not his experience people are objecting to, it's his conclusion.

Cromlech
June 26, 2010, 07:48 AM
If I saw someone with a handgun openly carried in plain view, but holstered I wouldn't give it too much thought.
If I saw the same person constantly fiddling with it in the holster, or having it drawn and constantly fiddling with it I might get a bit nervous.

For the most part I would mind my own business. That said, I'm posting on a gun forum, so no big surpise, I suppose. :)

mjkten
June 26, 2010, 09:44 AM
I would agree with the OP that, if OC offended or scared his customers, it was probably a bad idea. His company, his building, his customers...his livelihood. I imagine he could assess how he did it and come up with some way to be less obtrusive. This isn't an issue of standing up for his right to self defense like some here seem to view it. Sounds more like an experiment.

postalnut25
June 26, 2010, 10:40 AM
I've been OC'ing for over a year now.
Most people don't even notice much less say anything.
Heck, I've even OC'd on Pearl Street in Boulder (you know about it if you live in CO. It's basically the hippie/liberal captical of the area) and I've never had a problem.
At most all I get is some inquisitive stares and maybe a few questions.
My girlfriend's parents live two blocks off Pearl street. They are too busy freaking out about the size of my truck in that neighborhood to notice I have guns. If you didn't draw attention to your pistol on that mall, nobody would notice because the hippies are too self absorbed.

nathan
June 26, 2010, 11:04 AM
The reason is simple, People get intimidated by the sight of a gun. Even seeing one wearing a bayonet or somekind of hunting knife will undoutedly make others nervous. Its telling others, Dont mess with me.

wow6599
June 26, 2010, 11:07 AM
I guess open carry is not a good idea.

And here lies my problem with the OP.
I OC when I want to and I do believe there is a time and place for OC, but to end the comment with OC is not a good idea.......well, i disagree 100%.

nathan
June 26, 2010, 11:21 AM
I still prefer concealed. The element of surprise is always there on your side.
I sure want to be open carrying when out in the boondocks.

yeti
June 26, 2010, 12:51 PM
because the religion isn't mainstream and seems a little odd doesn't give you the right to make fun of it

Umm, actually, yes it does. But that should be a thread all its own.

indykappa
June 26, 2010, 01:04 PM
to the OP: where are you located?

i think this is a critical piece that is missing from the discussion.

personally, i don't have a problem with OC'ing. i probably OC about 10% of the time that i carry. from my experiences (both in indiana and north carolina), nobody even notices. for the folks that do, they don't seem to mind.

ljnowell
June 26, 2010, 01:30 PM
"I guess open carry is not a good idea."

Wow. Based on one personal experience, you came to that immediate conclusion. How limited you must be...or just ignorant.

At first, however, I thought you were just an anti-OC troll. And maybe you are.

-- John D.

Really? I have recieved warnings for way less than this post. Name calling is prohibited on this board. You can attack an argument but not a person.

W.E.G.
June 26, 2010, 01:40 PM
Looks like OP specializes in starting threads that get locked.

Only 26 posts and 4 locked already. :scrutiny:

zoom6zoom
June 26, 2010, 01:51 PM
I'll guarantee you that the first time you OC you'll think that everyone is staring at you. Once you get used to OC you'll realize it's mostly in your imagination. Most people are in total condition white and don't even notice it.

I've been OC'ing daily for years and have never had anyone attempt to touch my sidearm or ask me to take it out and show it to them. I do take the precaution of using a retention holster. Never been asked to leave a location or cover it up.

Zoidberg523
June 26, 2010, 01:56 PM
If I wore an openly carried pistol around here, I strongly suspect that some of the lower forms of city life around here would try to either buy it off of me, or else in some way relieve me of it. :(

Not saying OC isn't a good thing (it is, as it furthers our 2A rights), just that given the choice, I would stay concealed. Around here, firearms seem to draw a lot of attention from the wrong (felonious) people.

inSight-NEO
June 26, 2010, 04:14 PM
I find all posts in this thread without a location mentioned to be a waste of time for everyone involved.

Location? Oklahoma, if that helps. Now, do we have OC privileges yet? Unfortunately, no. But, it came close enough (given a recent vote) that I believe one day we will. Overall, Oklahoma seems to be a strong supporter of guns.

Simply because we do not yet have the laws in place, does this mean I, along with many others here, am unable to offer rational viewpoints regarding OC? Not at all.

Some here keep asking about location this and location that. I believe that this is not the primary issue here as any state willing to implement the ability for civilians to OC would certainly be "pro gun." Get my meaning?

To expand upon the previous point, if the OP is able to OC where he lives, the laws are already in place and obviously, the "powers that be" agree with the concept. Certainly this would not be "small" news within his particular community. If it is, then it is due to a general lack of awareness as relating to "civilian" firearm use and any such laws associated with it. Who is to blame for this? Take your pick.


BTW- The whole "posts in this thread without a location" remark really did not help this discussion and probably would have been better off remaining in your head vs ending up within a post. Just my .02 cents.

It's not his experience people are objecting to, it's his conclusion.

Bingo.

But, I will add this: I do not dislike the OP for his conclusion. I simply regret that he arrived at such a conclusion so quickly. Nothing against him personally whatsoever. Lets be honest, openly carrying a weapon (even if legal to do so) takes guts sometimes. After all, you are putting yourself, along with your beliefs, right out there for public viewing/opinion. For many, such a thing is hard to wrap their minds around. While I do disagree with his conclusion, it does not take much imagination to see where he is coming from.

longdayjake
June 26, 2010, 04:14 PM
Well, there is a difference between an innocent brush against it and an intentional grab. Wisdom is knowing which is which.

I slightly disagree. I believe that wisdom is treating both the same. If someone is close enough to you to touch your OC gun then they are too close. Though one may be innocent it still warrants a butt chewing or even worse. Heck, I have been known to bruise a hand or two for touching my ASP. I have seen too many cop training videos to be "nice" about others touching my weapons. I would just prefer to avoid the situation all together.

TheProf
June 26, 2010, 04:43 PM
Here's what I posted before... and then an additional comment..

Why do people react so negatively to OC? Hmmm....let me guess. They realize that the masses are "not so noble". (Think...Hurricane Katrina looting, etc) When a person OC, it is a reminder to others that "the man with the gun" have the power of life and death in their fingers. It's not a very comforting thought for many that "ordinary people" can have such power. (I know...makes no sense... but I'm answering your question.)

Is this logical? Of course not. Cars...those two ton vehicles are just as deadly...but we would never think of outlawing those things.

Do I support OC. Of course!!! Would I open carry? Maybe not...but I do want that option.

When a person chooses to exercise their right to legally OC, does it support our "Right to Bear Arms" cause? Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Just remember, if you OC...you remind others of this important right. Which is a good thing. On the other hand, if you OC with the "in your face" attitude towards the "sheeple"... it could create a backlash...and who knows...laws may change and OC becomes illegal in your area.
You must exercise wisdom with OC. Dress and act appropriately when OC... look and act professional...choose the time and place so as to not scare the public.. I guess its one of those judgement calls...

Here's my additional comment:

Having said the above... although I would not OC (for strategic reasons), I strongly am favor of OC law. Why? I don't want to be ever accused of "flashing" my gun... should I inadvertently reveal my CCW (example: cover garment accidentally being blown open by wind, etc.)

I think that having an OC provision in our laws is a very good thing.

I guess my ideal carry situation is somewhere between OC and CC. You know...sort of like.. "very discrete" carry.

TNboy
June 26, 2010, 05:32 PM
I seldom OC but have been known to from time to time. I fish a lot, the other morning I was fishing from a bridge I had my shirt off and my pistol in a hip holster. Everybody around here pretty much has guns so it's not a huge deal. My buddy that I was fishing with commented on my gun as we were walking back to the car after fishing for a couple of hours. Said something like "I didn't know you were packing heat." and laughed. No one else on the bridge even said anything about it or seemed to notice. I figure around here OC will just make a methhead that was going to bum money or whatever move on down the road, these methheads don't have guns, if they did they've already hocked them for dope money.

jonmerritt
June 26, 2010, 05:51 PM
I would think "Someone else that believes in self defense" untill they prove me wrong.

Zoidberg523
June 26, 2010, 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by TheProf
Having said the above... although I would not OC (for strategic reasons), I strongly am favor of OC law. Why? I don't want to be ever accused of "flashing" my gun... should I inadvertently reveal my CCW (example: cover garment accidentally being blown open by wind, etc.)

I strongly agree, and find that be my first reason for supporting OC as well (aside from the simple fact that it is pro-RTKBA).

Chip1wa
June 26, 2010, 08:22 PM
Zach- I think you Forgot to finish your post with the words "In My Humble Opinion"

If you don't like OC, or don't like Brussel Sprouts, don't do it, don't eat them.

And I've yet to have a negative encounter OC'ing in the 2 years I've proudly displayed.

Thanks,

Dirty

Gouranga
June 26, 2010, 08:42 PM
Man. coming down a little harsh on him aren't ya?

He has a business, if his customers freak out, they won't be coming back. Maybe feeding his family and keeping his home is more important to him than being a spokesperson for the OC movement.

As for folks on this board who claim they "think nothing" of someone OCing...why wouldn't we? With the exception of the occasional troll, we are all Pro-2A, and pro-guns. I think it goes without saying that a normal person carrying a firearm is not going to alarm any of us. now if he/she was doing so, while talking to trees and squirrels, and claiming to be Joan of Arc, yeah it might make some of us nervous.

I would NEVER OC here (gaston county, NC). I think folks would freak. 25 yrs ago, they would not have thought twice about it, heck downtown Charlotte, 10 years ago they would not have thought twice about it. I have no intention of making a spectacle of myself. plus people freak, NC has this wonderful "Going armed to the terror of the public" law that can be a royal PITA. They may not convict you but who wants to get arrested?

I also rarely walk out of my home without my concealed piece on me. If i were to see someone OCing here, I would not bat an eye, except to maybe see if I could see what he/she was carrying. I would really not bash the OP for his conclusion. He has a business to run. It is unfortunate folks would react that way, but like it or not his customers did and he needs them to stay in business.

Mudinyeri
June 26, 2010, 09:07 PM
Why!?
How many criminals open carry!?
I'm a watchful person by nature. I watched partially to see how/if people would react. I also watched them because in the event something untoward might happen they could make good allies.

Mudinyeri
June 26, 2010, 09:08 PM
I would appreciate it if you would not attempt to make sweeping statements applicable to me. Open carry is not a good idea for you. It is perfectly fine and acceptable to me, thank you.



I would keep an eye on off-duty cops as well. Now, if you thought they required more of your attention simply because they were carrying guns, I too would like to know why? Twin brothers are standing in line at Wal Mart, one is wearing a gun, the other isn't. Would you feel differently about the one wearing the gun?

The idea that someone must be watched because they are carrying a gun comes straight from the Brady Bunch and other anti-gun groups' propaganda. The gun means nothing, it is only an inanimate object.

Yes I would feel differently about the twin brothers. See above.

I suggest you try that last statement on cops that work in gang-infested areas and see how far it gets you. LOL

Balrog
June 27, 2010, 01:17 AM
The idea that someone must be watched because they are carrying a gun comes straight from the Brady Bunch and other anti-gun groups' propaganda.

Hmmm... don't think so!

Living in condition white and ignoring someone with immediate access to a deadly weapon is a bad idea.

Carter
June 27, 2010, 01:23 AM
Man. coming down a little harsh on him aren't ya?

He has a business, if his customers freak out, they won't be coming back. Maybe feeding his family and keeping his home is more important to him than being a spokesperson for the OC movement.

As for folks on this board who claim they "think nothing" of someone OCing...why wouldn't we? With the exception of the occasional troll, we are all Pro-2A, and pro-guns. I think it goes without saying that a normal person carrying a firearm is not going to alarm any of us. now if he/she was doing so, while talking to trees and squirrels, and claiming to be Joan of Arc, yeah it might make some of us nervous.

I would NEVER OC here (gaston county, NC). I think folks would freak. 25 yrs ago, they would not have thought twice about it, heck downtown Charlotte, 10 years ago they would not have thought twice about it. I have no intention of making a spectacle of myself. plus people freak, NC has this wonderful "Going armed to the terror of the public" law that can be a royal PITA. They may not convict you but who wants to get arrested?

I also rarely walk out of my home without my concealed piece on me. If i were to see someone OCing here, I would not bat an eye, except to maybe see if I could see what he/she was carrying. I would really not bash the OP for his conclusion. He has a business to run. It is unfortunate folks would react that way, but like it or not his customers did and he needs them to stay in business.

I'm with Gouranga on this one. When I interned with the police department in my town there were a whole lot of armed to the terror of the public arrests in the computer on the stuff I was researching. While these were usually all bad people, and probably a law designed to give the "good guys" another thing to stick criminals with, it can be used against the lawful citizen as well.

I think if open carry was more widely done and firearms weren't demonized in the past then there would be no problem, but right now in today's fear driven pandora like world, you're going to get a lot of unwanted attention. And depending on the cop, you might get arrested for some bizarre law that you didn't even know existed. Convicted or not though, you got an arrest record now.

But it is the individuals choice, and should be his right, to open carry. If he's in his place of business then he has every right to. People don't get scared when they go in to a gun shop and see every salesman with a sidearm. A major factor, IMHO, is the environment that a gun is seen in. Hopefully the "acceptable" environments to the general public/LEO's/ETC will widen in scope.

ArfinGreebly
June 27, 2010, 03:44 AM
The OP has posted a minimal description using vague terms, a complete lack of specifics, and avoided stating his location.

I opened carried at work today (my own company inside a building that I own). Open carry is legal in my state and I have a CCW. I was dressed nice in biz casual attire. Carried on a hip holster.

Anyway we have customers come in to pick things up now and then.

As far as people's reactions...let's just say that people do not take kindly to a person wearing a gun. Approx 90% of the public looked at me all weird, wouldn't talk to me, gave me the cold shoulder, and acted in a way to avoid me at all costs.

I guess open carry is not a good idea.

Legal in . . . what state? What city? What part of that city?

Carried what in a hip holster? What kind of holster? High on the hip? Low on the hip?

Customers? What demographic? Office supplies? Feed store? Dress shop? Florist? Hardware store? Mail box store?

Things? Pick up things? What "things?"

"People's" reactions? No demographic. At all.

Basically, no data.

Very sketchy outline.

Just enough to provoke a lot of "spirited" discussion with no foundation at all.


Seriously?

You guys went for this?


I'm not buying.

The OP is free to PM me with more details and, if he's prepared to flesh out the report with something resembles context and facts, I may reopen the thread.


For now, however, let's latch this one.

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