Any Licensed collectors of Curio & Relic firearms???


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NJGunOwner81
June 26, 2010, 07:21 PM
Hello, to those of you who have a Curio & Relic license I was wondering if you'd be so kind to answer a couple questions that I'd been pondering!

First, why would I want to obtain this type of license? Without getting really obscure what are some specific things you can buy with that license that I could not?

Secondly, I know the rules and requirements vary from state to state but when you got yours how difficult was it? Is it a long drawn out process to get one?

Finally, do you believe it was worth it? Worth your time and money against what you bought or gained? Just curious ... because I was debating whether to get one or not.

THANK-YOU for any information you can provide!!!

Take Care & Be Safe!!!

Frank
NJGunOwner81

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GRIZ22
June 26, 2010, 07:56 PM
First, you don't want to get a C&R license in NJ as it really doesn't do much for you. You cannot have any firearms delivered directly to you. NJ says all firearms transfers must go through NJ Licensed Firearms Dealer.

Second, you can get one if you live in NJ but the only good it will do you is some accessory and equipment sellers give you a discount. From others it's not a lengthy process to get one. It puts you under the watchful eye of the NJSP as a licensed collector.

Finally, if you lived in a state that didn't have all the restrictions it would be worth it. You could get many firerams that are 50 years old or older sent directly to your house. That's long guns and handguns. In NJ you need to have the guns sent to a dealer and pay a transfer fee. The lowest I know of charges $25. Most dealers charge $50 or more. You don't want to pay a $50 transfer fee for that $65 Moison Nagant. You're better off paying more to a dealer that ordered it for stock.

I would not advise you to get a C&R if you live in NJ as state law prohibits you from the biggest benefit, getting elgible firearms shipped directly to you.

NJGunOwner81
June 26, 2010, 08:31 PM
THAT'S what I needed to know!!! Thanks GRIZ22!

BTW, does having a Curio license allow you to purchase fully automatic weapons?

THANKS-AGAIN!

Take Care & Be Safe!

Frank
NJGunOwner81

jimmyraythomason
June 26, 2010, 08:35 PM
NFA weapons are NOT C&R eligible.

dogtown tom
June 26, 2010, 08:58 PM
jimmyraythomason NFA weapons are NOT C&R eligible.

Sure they are, all six pages of them.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf

All NFA rules apply (including Federal transfer taxes)
SECTION IV: National Firearms Act Weapons
Classified As Curios Or Relics Under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44
The Bureau has determined that the following NFA weapons are curios or relics as defined in 27 CFR 478.11 because of
their dates of manufacture. These NFA weapons, classified as curios or relics, are still subject to all the controls under
the NFA. However, licensed collectors may acquire, hold, or dispose of them as curios or relics subject to the
provisions of 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44 and 27 CFR Part 478. They are still "firearms" as defined in 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44
and 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53.

(see Section IV pages 46-51)

jimmyraythomason
June 26, 2010, 09:54 PM
I would love to hear from someone who bought a machinegun using a 03 C&R license.

Ian
June 26, 2010, 10:05 PM
My understanding is that C&R status on a machine gun simply allows it to be shipped directly to you when the transfer is approved, rather than going to a dealer in your state. My father has a C&R machine gun, a Type 99 Nambu (dewat).

Exposure
June 26, 2010, 10:13 PM
jimmyraythomason said-

I would love to hear from someone who bought a machinegun using a 03 C&R license.

The first machine gun I ever bought was with my C&R license. It came straight from the out of state dealer to my front door.

Without a doubt the single coolest package I have EVER recieved.

Zack
June 27, 2010, 12:20 AM
Now did you have to go though all the long paper work? or no because you had a C&R and the date of the machine gun was before 86?

well you can not buy a machine gun after 86....

Lee Roder
June 27, 2010, 02:10 AM
1) The main reason is that you can purchase some types of firearms directly without involving an FFL dealer, thereby saving money (transfer fees). As brought out above, your state may prohibit this though. I'm from California originally so handgun transfers were out. However, it was still worth it to me because of discounted prices from various suppliers (reloading, accessories, ...)
2) Very easy to get (assuming your not one of those prohibited persons). Takes about a month.
3) You'll recover the $30 fee for your 3 year membership on your increased purchasing ability. If tools are your thing, places like Brownells offers fairly substantial discounts to C&R license holders. License also satisfies at least one membership criteria over at the CMP too.

Quiet
June 27, 2010, 04:47 AM
C&R MG still require an approved Form 4 and $200 tax stamp.

After BATFE approval, the C&R MG can be shipped direct to a 03-FFL, instead of needing to be transfered through a FFL/SOT dealer.

Sunray
June 27, 2010, 06:15 AM
"...rules and requirements vary from State to State..." Federal rules, as I recall. Buckets of paperwork too.
"...does having a Curio license allow you to purchase fully automatic weapons..." Not if your State doesn't allow Class 3.
"...you can not buy a machine gun after 86..." Nope. No registering one that wasn't registered prior to then though. Read the law.

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