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GreySmoke2
June 27, 2010, 12:47 AM
I'm in my early 50's and I am thinking on starting to look for a new state of residence to live out my future. Looking for warm weather, good real estate value, freedom for my firearm pursuits, good public/private ranges, I really like steel ranges... Want to stretch a buck etc...

Currently Considering Murfreesboro, Tenn area, Summerville, SC area and Plano Tx area.

For those living near these please tell me why you like the area or why not.

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spyder1969
June 27, 2010, 01:02 AM
Arizona is very good, but the illegals are invading us!

ArtP
June 27, 2010, 01:23 AM
I can't give you an answer from experience. I can say that I'm in your boat too. My youngest is moving off in August and my job is in the toilet. It's a perfect time for me to pursue what I want, for a change.

My considerations are the western mountain states or maybe the northern plains area - S. Dakota, Nebraska.

I live in a state where the housing costs vs. wages are completely out of whack and am looking to correct that and regain my freedoms.

I also want to add that the neighboring county South of me ranks as the worst county in the nation when it comes to wages in ratio to housing cost. That is Sonoma County. In my opinion the large migrant work force, which is willing to work cheap and pay a lot for housing (because they cram many people into one house) has a trickling affect on the rest of us. Yeah, there are lots of reasons, but the imigration (legal and illegal) certainly make it worse.

dogtown tom
June 27, 2010, 01:43 AM
GreySmoke2 I'm in my early 50's and I am thinking on starting to look for a new state of residence to live out my future. Looking for warm weather, good real estate value, freedom for my firearm pursuits, good public/private ranges, I really like steel ranges... Want to stretch a buck etc...

Currently Considering Murfreesboro, Tenn area, Summerville, SC area and Plano Tx area.

Well....it was 100 here pretty much every day last week:D

Big_E
June 27, 2010, 04:05 AM
I say take a look at the Brady website. They have a score chart of each state and the lower score is better (for us).

Utah is the first ever 0 score. I moved to Idaho which has a score of 2. However, I was disappointed when I got here because you have to be 21 to buy handguns and pistol ammo. Actually, I was misled by the Brady site because they got this info wrong (go figure they cant even get the age restrictions right).

I think Tennessee or Kentucky have really good laws, but I don't remember. Any state is a sigh of relief if you are coming from CA, MA, NY and a few others.

**I did not move to ID just because of guns, it was in the top 3 requirements of my list however. FYI, TX is a great place but there are some things about their CCW laws that I don't think makes it the best gun state.

Quiet
June 27, 2010, 04:13 AM
I moved to Idaho which has a score of 2. However, I was disappointed when I got here because you have to be 21 to buy handguns and pistol ammo. Actually, I was misled by the Brady site because they got this info wrong (go figure they cant even get the age restrictions right).

Federal laws:
minimum age to purchase handgun ammo = 21
minimum age to purchase handgun from a FFL dealer = 21

Idaho laws:
minimum age to own a handgun = 18

A resident of Idaho between the age of 18-20 can legally purchase a handgun via private party or legally recieve a handgun as a gift.

TexasBill
June 27, 2010, 05:06 AM
Texas has some drawbacks; absolutely no open carry, CHL can take months to get (DPS has up to nine months to approve/deny), very strict on printing, district attorneys that interpret the laws according to their whim...

Other than that, it's pretty good. No permit to buy or own, no regulation on private transfers, etc., okay to carry concealed in motor vehicle with or without CHL. CHL does allow carry in restaurants that serve alcohol (as long as the restaurant doesn't derive more than 51% of its income from liquor sales) as long as you don't consume any while armed.

CheckFire
June 27, 2010, 05:34 AM
Since you are considering SC anyway, and since it was 100* in Plano all last week (per dogtown tom), have you looked at UpState SC??---Greenville/Greer/Spartanburg MSA or Pickens/Oconee/Anderson counties? It's been only 97* here all week...

Nice home areas, decent varied economies, major fishing reservoirs and mtn. trout streams, lotsa hunting for whitetails/hogs/doves/turkey;

Pulled-pork BBQ, StatesRights culture, GrandStrand Beaches/HiltonHead coast 4 hrs. away, Snowskiing in NC mountains 2 hrs away...

State income tax and 6% sales tax except groceries, tho'...

Moved back here after prodigals in NC/VA/MT...ain't bad....jus' wish some body movin' this way would return Gen. Lee's sword, and learn to tawk/drav raight, and know 'bout DUKE's Mayonnaise, and don't oooogle the purty 'peaches' unless yo' wearin' sunshades....

FWIW--we wuz brought up here in SC, my sis moved to Rockford, Ill---she likes it there!???

The Lone Haranguer
June 27, 2010, 05:46 AM
Tennessee as a whole is very good regarding gun rights, with few restrictions on purchase or use of firearms, the only drawback being a rather high fee for the HCP. I rate Arizona as the best in the contiguous 48 states, however. (Vermont's winters are nine months long. :D) And if you like warm weather, Phoenix delivers on this ... perhaps a little too much. But it rarely gets to freezing in the winter.

22-rimfire
June 27, 2010, 06:25 AM
Murfreesboro TN is a nice area. It is starting to get more expensive there as Nashville suburbs are encroaching on Murfreesboro these days. That means higher land cost. You might look at both Knoxville and Chattanooga TN too. Northern Alabama is real nice too.

For me, I think about climate, geography, and job potential more than I do gun laws as long as the laws are consistant with most "free states". TN used to have a waiting period on handguns, but that ended with the Brady Bill and the NICs checks.

yeti
June 27, 2010, 12:08 PM
Vermont's winters are nine months long.

They are not! It very rarely snows in June, July, and August, and there is hardly ever enough snow to call May and September "Winter." I almost guarantee winter doesn't last a day over 8 months... usually.

Summer is really incredible though, best summer weather anywhere in the world, last year every day of summer was spectacular, all 6 of them.

If Vermont sounds good to you, you had better act fast, I understand there may, possibly, be a job opening somewhere in the state before the end of this year. It's not definite but if you let me know I'll save you a place on line.

AZ_Rebel
June 27, 2010, 12:23 PM
I'm in my early 50's and I am thinking on starting to look for a new state of residence to live out my future. Looking for warm weather, good real estate value, freedom for my firearm pursuits, good public/private ranges, I really like steel ranges... Want to stretch a buck etc...

I lived in Canada most of my life and had exactly the same thoughts as the OP. I moved to Arizona 12 years ago and never looked back. The few times I have gone back to Canada to visit just re-inforced why I live here. No place is perfect but there are so many reasons to be here and not there.


Snow
Cold
Bugs
Liberals
Gun Grabbers
etc.


Make a decision - stick with it. Good Luck!

Taurus 617 CCW
June 27, 2010, 12:28 PM
I just moved to Idaho as well and it appears to be a welcoming state for firearms. The only anti-gun person I have encountered was the desk lady at UPS. Other than that, everyone has been either neutral or pro. Even my new bank allows concealed carry!

Rexster
June 27, 2010, 12:58 PM
Texas is VERY good for long guns. Look closely at the relevant laws, which are almost non-existent. (That which is not prohibited is generally permitted.) Long guns can be possessed/carried concealed or openly, loaded or unloaded, no license or permit required. (Of course, do not recklessly point the weapon at folks!) Up to 5.5" in blade length, Texas is also VERY good regarding knife laws. Openly carried or concealed makes no difference; fixed or folding makes no difference, no license or permit required. This means one can generally carry a substantial blade into places that prohibit handguns and weapons. Of course, if the property owner, or his designee, knows you have the knife, you can be denied entry and/or asked to leave if they don't want knives to be carried there.

Texas has no state income tax.

Texas does have somewhat high property taxes, so it is not the best place to own a huge amount of real estate. MANY folks who live the nomadic RV lifestyle choose Texas for their home address of record, for this reason.

Texas has little public land, and strong property owner rights. Take your pick which you prefer. This does mean that most hunting is done on private land, which the hunter leases. Virtually all shooting ranges are private; the days of walking into the national forest to plink are virtually over, at least anywhere near urban centers. Hunting is still legal in the national forests, if you like crowds.

TNboy
June 27, 2010, 01:13 PM
I grew up right down the road from Murfreesboro, it's a pretty nice place but it has gotten a little too big for me. Lots of nice stuff a short way down the road in just about every direction that isn't towards Nashville. I don't think our carry permits are that expensive here $115 for the first 5 years and $50 for each 5 years after that. OC allowed, should be able to carry in establishments that serve alcohol soon. Seems to be a mostly gun friendly state, things will be better when the current governor leaves office this year.

GunsBeerFreedom
June 27, 2010, 01:23 PM
If you want a good value on property, look no further than MI. Houses now go for about....10,000 for a nice 1800 sqft home in the burbs. Gun restrictions aren't bad, except for pistol registration. And the listing of pretty much every bullpup as a pistol (under 30in total length).

On 2nd thought, don't move here.

MovedWest
June 27, 2010, 01:36 PM
I grew up in Murfreesboro, but moved to California about 10 years ago. For gun laws, the difference is night and day. Murfreesboro is really nice, but it's starting to lose it's small town charm it once had. I swear it used to feel like Mayberry.

The whole middle TN area is nice for outdoor activities. If I could make the same money out there that I do here, I probably wouldn't think twice about moving back.

-MW

alohachris
June 27, 2010, 01:43 PM
Utah is the least restrictive state in the USA. It scored a -1 from the Brady's. Southern UT has mild winters and long summers. Don't know about ranges though. When you move here, they give you a free voucher for an NFA item :)

It's a great place to live, gun-wise, not too many illegals (yet) and it would be perfect, if it weren't for the Mormons.

armoredman
June 27, 2010, 01:47 PM
AZ has very few restrictions, and goes to Vermont/Alaska style carry July 29th. We also have the first knife preemption law. The illegals are leaving to avoid our new immigration law, and the Governor is dead set on doing all we Arizonans can to stem the tide.
Housing is available cheap due to foreclosures, weather is warm, (74 when I was casting in the garage this morning, 107 for the day), no snow in southern AZ, but northern AZ is cooler and greener, same laws.

GunsBeerFreedom
June 27, 2010, 01:47 PM
Doesn't Utah have 3.2 beer though?

KenW.
June 27, 2010, 02:21 PM
Doesn't Utah have 3.2 beer though?

Full-strength can be picked up at the state store as you get your whiskey. Just not in the grocery store.

A real plus is that our career politician, Bob Bennet didn't even make it to the primary! He lost in the convention even as a repulican. He was not conservative enough. If we're fortunate the other senator will be next...

Utah's a shall issue state, no state firearms registration, and a good family environment.

WoofersInc
June 27, 2010, 02:23 PM
How about Nevada. Huge amount of BLM land to use. Clark County is in the process of building out one of the larger public ranges in the country. Good private ranges also. No State income tax. With the current economy housing is cheap. My friend just bought a 2500 sf house that is 5 years old for $115,000. He is switching his residence to here so that his pension won't have the state income tax taken out. Op mentioned warm weather. It's currently 102. But hey, it's a dry heat right?:D
Plus, everything is open pretty much 24 hours here. Always have something for entertainment. Lots of good places to dine out if that is something you like.

As far as firearms, everything is allowed. All NFA items like full auto, silencers, etc.
Open carry
Shall issue ccw
Instant check so no waiting periods for purchases. (as long as the computer system doesn't go down)

GreySmoke2
June 27, 2010, 02:43 PM
For clarification, The cities I have described are not the smallest but are near or are becoming larger cities, too small I'll get board....

Weather wise Arizona is just too hot in the summer. Else I would be there already, I had a chance to move there in 2000 before the boom (and the bust) I looked at a nearly 5000sqft home with a Pool and 4 car garage for $265,000... But the 130deg June/July heat that shut down the airport because the tarmac was melting was a deal breaker.

I do not want anything to do with SNOW that removes about 60% or more of the country. Been there done that.

Looking for an area that I could actually live on SS (if its around in 10 years).
I personally dont have any preferences about carry but would like to own and fire whatever i please to, including supressors, AR's AK's Lever Guns, Pistols, Revolvers, big and small. And I may want to do SASS someday also....

GunsBeerFreedom
June 27, 2010, 02:50 PM
Full-strength can be picked up at the state store as you get your whiskey. Just not in the grocery store.

Thanks for the knowledge. I'm a beer snob, and thus that's as big a part of my life as firearms. Granted I'm not the one moving, but it's still useful knowledge to have.

Lou McGopher
June 27, 2010, 03:09 PM
http://freedom.robocourt.com/

See the above link for ranking states by various measurements of freedom.

Climate maps of the US:
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/usclimate/states.fast.html
http://maps.howstuffworks.com/united-states-climate-map.htm
http://www.eduplace.com/ss/maps/pdf/usclim.pdf

Economic maps:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/map.economy/index.html
(The next two may be a tad outdated)
http://www.illinoisatlas.com/us/economic/economic.htm
http://www.illinoisatlas.com/us/labor/labor.htm

And these two ever-useful sites:
http://www.city-data.com/
http://www.epodunk.com/

Now if only someone could mash these all together. :D

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