S&W Model 19 grip choice for IDPA


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jscott
June 27, 2010, 11:05 AM
I have been thinking about shooting some of the monthly IDPA matches with the S&W Model 19. I currently have the classic S&W stocks on all of my Smith revolvers. I really like the look, and feel, of these grips, but they are somewhat oversized for IDPA, and a speed loader simply does not work with the grips.

I would like a good set of grips that will work with the speed loaders. While I have used the rubber Hogue style grips extensively on different wheel guns, I am leaning towards a set of wood grips for this revolver. Does anyone have experience with a set of wood stocks that they really like and would work well with speed loaders?

While the question pertains to competition shooting, I put it here believing that the question was more general in nature than specific to IDPA.

Thanks.
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Jim Watson
June 27, 2010, 11:45 AM
I use the cheap rubber Hogues but if I were to upgrade, I like the Jerry Miculek design. Made by Hogue, it is a smooth wood grip without finger grooves.
http://www.bang-inc.com/store/index.php?cPath=1&main_page=index

Of course a spare set of S&W target grips and a wood rasp would give you a fit to your hand.

Lucky Derby
June 27, 2010, 01:53 PM
Spiegels

9mmepiphany
June 27, 2010, 04:35 PM
how about something actually designed for competition...Hogue Big Butt grips

http://www.getgrip.com/images/competition/bianchi.jpg

rcmodel
June 27, 2010, 04:45 PM
I think you will have a hard time finding anything that works with speed loaders much better then those you have.
They are already deep cut for speed-loaders just about the same as all the after-market grips.

rc

rainbowbob
June 27, 2010, 04:47 PM
I have those same stocks with the cut-away on my K-frame and shoot IDPA occasionally. I'm able to use the SafariLand Comp III speedloaders with them. What kind of speedloaders do you use, and what problems are you having with them specifically?

jscott
June 27, 2010, 10:00 PM
I am also using the Safariland speed loaders. As you can see, I can use the speed loaders with the current stocks. I was just hoping for some stocks that would allow for a little more straight in alignment with the cylinder, the added benefit being a slimmer, more comfortable shooting grip over what I consider to be rather large stocks (though I do find them appealing to the eye).

It's hard to see in the picture, but it is the wood grips that are contacting the speed loader, not the cylinder release.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/woaviator/2010-05-11.jpg

Zack
June 27, 2010, 10:20 PM
wait nvm.... You named it at the top... .357 I thought so.

9mmepiphany
June 27, 2010, 10:34 PM
It's hard to see in the picture, but it is the wood grips that are contacting the speed loader, not the cylinder release.

you know the nice thing about wood, it thins nicely

BCRider
June 27, 2010, 11:41 PM
I'm using that same speed loader on my own 19 that is set up with the Hogue rubber grips and the loaders work fine. Hogue makes the same design in both rubber AND wood... hint, hint.... :D

I'm sure I'm wrong but it almost looks like you're holding the cylinder part way closed to make it jam or cock to the side that much worse than it should be. But if it truly is fully opened and it's still doing that then it's time to shave the wood. Also are those .38's or .357's? If you're shooting in IDPA would you not be using .38Spl rounds to avoid hurting any of the steel targets? The shorter cases may be all you need to make the loader fit nicely.

jscott
June 28, 2010, 12:20 AM
I'm sure I'm wrong but it almost looks like you're holding the cylinder part way closed to make it jam or cock...

just the picture, but

Also are those .38's or .357's?

they are .357's.

If you're shooting in IDPA would you not be using .38Spl rounds

Yes, I would be shooting .38's and that would help for IDPA. Nonetheless, I've been known to carry for targets that may shoot back from time to time. In that sense, it's a bigger issue.

Hogue makes the same design in both rubber AND wood... hint, hint....

You'd think I would have known that. I might try a set, or a couple of the others that have been mentioned. Both the Miculek and Spegel designs look like options.

sctman800
June 28, 2010, 12:23 AM
I have the S&W 625JM and love the grips. Jim.

BCRider
June 28, 2010, 01:20 AM
If you're using .357's in the loaders for carry then obviously you want them to fit. So it brings to mind the old para phrased saying "if thy grips offend thee abrade them to fit". :D

As mentioned wood works nicely and a few dabs of gun stock oil applied at 4 to 5 day intervals with a ball of steel wool to smoothen and apply the oil will soon make the spot blend with the rest of the grips.

ArchAngelCD
June 28, 2010, 03:07 AM
You're using the wrong speedloaders. Use the Comp III loaders (http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=COMP%20III) in competition and use This Carrier (http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=333) too.

rainbowbob
June 28, 2010, 03:54 PM
You're using the wrong speedloaders. Use the Comp III loaders...

What AA said. The first time I shot IDPA, another more experienced revolver shooter clued me in to the Comp III's.

I still don't have a proper carrier, and the one AA linked to looks like the solution. But there are two model numbers, and I can't figure out which is the one I need?

TxD11
June 28, 2010, 04:01 PM
Just a note.
The Safariland carrier posted above is not approved for IDPA.
The carrier must cover the entire speedloader.

MrBorland
June 28, 2010, 05:05 PM
The carrier must cover the entire speedloader.

The speedloader holder must cover the body of the speedloader, not necessarily the entire thing. At any rate, as TxD11 indicated, the Safariland holders aren't technically IDPA-legal. Blade-Tech and Ready Tactical holders are, though.

Use the Comp III loaders in competition

Or Jetloaders. In fact, the radius of the Jetloader is a hair smaller, and may make reloads a smoother if the current fit is tight.

rainbowbob
June 28, 2010, 05:38 PM
The speedloader holder must cover the body of the speedloader, not necessarily the entire thing.


I forgot about that provision. I'll check out your suggestions.

Red Cent
June 28, 2010, 10:13 PM
I dont think the BB will be legal either.

"Grips to another style or material that is similar to factory
configuration (no weighted grips)."

ArchAngelCD
June 29, 2010, 01:42 AM
I didn't know the speedloader carrier I linked to wasn't IDPA legal, sorry for the bad information...

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