Massad "SIXGUNS AINíT JUST FOR SENIORS"


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pcwirepro
June 29, 2010, 12:10 PM
Perhaps this should be in the general gun discussion forum. I just don't know anymore.

As a relative youngster, raised on semi autos, I found this article to be an interesting read.http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2010/06/23/sixguns-ain%E2%80%99t-just-for-seniors/

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Lucky Derby
June 29, 2010, 12:24 PM
Thanks for posting that. In my formitive years (read late 80's early 90's) revolvers were dieing in popularity. I, never being one to give into the "latest & greatest", like my peers, was often jibed by them for my love of wheelguns. Good to see that the revolver lives on.

harmon rabb
June 29, 2010, 03:41 PM
If I could only keep ONE of my guns, it would be my GP-100.

Nomad
June 29, 2010, 04:50 PM
I love my semi-autos but frankly if I could only have one handgun it would be a revolver. Just like there are things autos can do that revolvers can't, there are things a revolver can do that an auto can't.

Racinbob
June 29, 2010, 05:17 PM
Love it. I like all firearms and my SR9 is a favorite shooter. The S&W 1006 I just became the owner of will be a ton of fun if I can find brass to load. But my love is for a revolver. Yea, I'm old. I just sent the link to a young pup friend who also loves all firearms but I sense the 'not so much so' for wheel guns.

Confederate
June 29, 2010, 06:05 PM
Yep...I don't go to bed unless I have fully loaded speed-loaders sitting next to my specs and the bowl with my false teeth!

You won't find me unprepared! I also keep a six-shooter on my hip while I rip down country trails in my V8 roadster, playing "Solitary Man" on my 8-track!

You can't beat 'em....

pcwirepro
June 29, 2010, 06:20 PM
Funny thing these guns. I've had semi autos from the age of 16 with no real interest in wheel guns, at least until my ten year old son saw a Single Six and had to have it. I bought it for his birthday and immediately fell in love with the platform. Since then I have only added a Taurus Raging Bull in 44 mag to the revolver collection (hardly a practical first revolver for dad) but I have my eye on several. I think a Ruger GP-100 revolver, stainless steel .357 Magnum with a 4 inch barrel is in my near future.

gunnie
June 29, 2010, 06:27 PM
love my 1911's. love my k frame smiths also. guess i'd have to be described as an immature old fart?

:-)

gunnie

rmfnla
June 29, 2010, 06:40 PM
Can't beat a Colt revolver; any model!

wanderinwalker
June 29, 2010, 08:13 PM
I'm a 26 year-old young buck who prefers the smooth action and long-range accuracy of my double-action S&Ws versus a polymer wunder-pistol. There's something comforting about a .357 or .44 Magnum or just sublime about a K-frame .22. Actually, just the other weekend I was plinking with my 22/45 and found myself wishing I had my S&W M-18 instead.

Oh, gratuitous revolver picture! Still want an N-frame .357, a K-frame .38 and possibly a J-frame .38. All older, like these, please... ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/P-990/SW002-1.jpg

BCCL
June 29, 2010, 08:24 PM
Never heard of anyone shot with a revolver that immediately yelled "HAHA, only an auto-loader can hurt me"......

buck460XVR
June 29, 2010, 08:25 PM
I've been shootin' revolvers for nigh on 40 years......and my 17 year old son outshoots me in both single and double action. I'm thinkin' young eyes versus old tired eyes, eh?

wheelgunslinger
June 30, 2010, 08:34 AM
Never heard of anyone shot with a revolver that immediately yelled "HAHA, only an auto-loader can hurt me"......
:D That's pretty funny there.

Good article. Thanks for the link.

SaxonPig
June 30, 2010, 08:40 AM
Each system has advantages and disadvantages. Most of the auto's points are related to combat situations (fast reloads, etc) and don't often apply to SD use.

I like the small revolver for carry because it is smooth and round rather than boxy with sharp edges.

See below. Nothing to snag or catch. Nothing to cause wear to covering clothing. Nothing to cut or jab skin. And those 125 JHPs loaded to 1,100 FPS (clocked from a 2" barrel) should get it done if needed.


http://www.fototime.com/A52BEF4C69238B2/standard.jpg

MCgunner
June 30, 2010, 08:47 AM
My favorite guns are my revolvers, but I own autos and carry them, too. I just don't like shooting 'em at the range. I have a bad back and don't like bending over to pick up brass. But, then, I'm old enough to have seen the original Dirty Harry at the theater, so hell, I grew up shooting a revolver.

What really cracks me up, though, is when some young buck rails on a Glock or something for it's "terrible trigger". I mean, like, it's FOUR LBS! BWAAA, ha, ha! Learn ta shoot, ya punk! :D

Guillermo
June 30, 2010, 08:51 AM
congrats to Austin Gibbons

MCgunner
June 30, 2010, 08:52 AM
Each system has advantages and disadvantages. Most of the auto's points are related to combat situations (fast reloads, etc) and don't often apply to SD use.

there are a couple of reasons I carry autos that have nothing to do with "combat", which iin my mind is the realm of the rifle, anyway. The pocket auto is easier to carry for me than your average J frame. It's smaller, it's lighter generally, though the scandium stuff equals most good pocket 9s for light. Also, the reload is easier to carry than speed loaders which are a lump to conceal. Besides that, as a caliber, 9mm plus P in pocket autos is closer to .357 magnum than it is .38 special and I wouldn't carry full house .357s in a J frame pocket gun anyway, rough to shoot. You can get 9x19 in a steel frame revolver at 23 ounces or you can get it in a polymer pocket pistol at 12 ounces.

I mean, there are advantages to autos for the permitted armed citizen beyond fast reloads, all I'm sayin'. I still like my revolvers, though.

los
June 30, 2010, 09:20 AM
SaxonPig, NICE flat latch Centennial.

Here is my EDC...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/los3088/IMG_0008-650-1.jpg

Guillermo
June 30, 2010, 09:24 AM
Saxon owns many nice guns

and will not put me in his will :fire:

MachIVshooter
June 30, 2010, 01:00 PM
IMO, to limit oneself to either platform is foolish.

While I generally carry auto's due to the fact that they lay flatter, there is one undeniable advantage to the wheelgun for SD. That is reliability, and more specifically, the ability to fire the gun repeatedly from within the pocket with a concealed hammer platform. With an auto, you can only count on one shot from those confines. All of us would prefer to draw and aim before firing, but this is something I've considered, and so often carry a J frame when it's to be in a coat pocket. Of course, for my normal appendix or 4 O'clock carry, that ability of the revolver is a moot point.

The primary disadvantages of revolvers are low capacity and slow reloads with proportionately bulky apparati-the less bulky the mode of carry the ammo is in, the slower it is to get it into the gun.

That said, I feel sufficiently armed for SD carrying my PF9 or S&W M37. I carry my P3AT when either of those are too big. Unfortunately, there is no effective revolver that carries as easily as a micro .380.

Legionnaire
June 30, 2010, 01:57 PM
los, if that's your EDC, I'd love to see your BBQ!

sm
June 30, 2010, 03:11 PM
Great article, thanks for posting a link to it.

I recently turned 55 years old.
Now I still consider myself "young", but since I do now qualify for a "senior citizens discount" for some things...I can pretend to be a senior and get my discount. *wink*

I was raised and still believe, and still "instruct": One should learn with a Revolver. I start[ed] out with a .22 rim-fire, and then transition[ed] to a center-fire, my preference being a .38 spl.

Learn the correct basic fundamentals with a revolver, and the .22 allows one to focus on these correct basic fundamentals. Simple: less felt recoil and the ammunition is more affordable. Oh, and fun! If one can have fun learning something, they will "get it" quicker" and it will be better ingrained.

When you have problems with the center-fire revolver, then break out the .22 revolver and "get back to basics".

No matter what one transitions to from a revolver (single action, double action semi-auto...) the correct basics from the revolver, will transition over.

Get into a "slump" with the semi-auto, one might consider breaking out the revolvers, either the center-fire, or .22 rimfire.


Steve

Confederate
June 30, 2010, 05:48 PM
Every now and again we read stories of cops and robbers in situations where they're shooting at each other and no one is hitting anyone! In these types of situations, I would be happy with a revolver. I could at least cock a revolver and I know what I can do with a cocked revolver, even if it was at 100 yards.

SaxonPig
June 30, 2010, 06:08 PM
MC- Which auto do you have that's smaller than the 2" J frame S&W? I have a FEG 380 which is nearly identical to the Walther PPK and I found the width, height and length measurements were virtually the same as my M40 pictured above.

Balrog
June 30, 2010, 06:22 PM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

BullfrogKen
June 30, 2010, 07:03 PM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

No, I really wouldn't.

Guillermo
June 30, 2010, 07:09 PM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

That is very funny

Lucky 7
June 30, 2010, 07:10 PM
I'm only 24 and, while I have an extensive collection of pistols, I shoot best with revolvers. I'm pretty accuracte and fast with autos, sure, but for the first six shots I am at my best with a medium frame .357.

Regards,
Lucky

farscott
June 30, 2010, 07:27 PM
I am a huge 1911 fan, and I usually have one on my hip. That being said I also have a two three-inch SP-101s that I sometimes carry when the mood strikes me. I shoot the SP-101s as well as the 1911s, and the SP-101s are even easier to conceal as the grip is so small. Five shots of .38 or .357 before a reload are quite enough for me.

As for the Glock comment, I have not carried and will not carry a Glock. It is a personal decision based on concerns about snagging the cover garment on a gun with a six-pound trigger while holstering the weapon with one hand. I own Glocks and admire them for what they are, but I am not comfortable with one as my carry gun.

The funny thing to me is that the Glock safe action is somewhat reminiscent of using a revolver like the M640 Centennial in that the trigger pull is the same for all shots and only the trigger must be pulled in order for the gun to be fired. Yet some Glock shooters often disparage the revolver as outdated. I see the Glock safe action as a clever advancement of the DA revolver's consistency applied to the auto-loader. On the other hand, concealed carry of the Glock with the chamber loaded is not something that I find acceptable.

I want to make it clear that my prejudices against the Glock as a carry weapon for me are not meant to imply that I find fault with anyone who decides to carry a Glock. I just am not comfortable with the Glock as my carry weapon.

bikerdoc
June 30, 2010, 07:29 PM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

I Dont own a glock

Have CZ 75 and a Beretta 92.

Today i am carrying a 357 Ruger

jonmerritt
June 30, 2010, 07:59 PM
what's a glock?

Guillermo
June 30, 2010, 08:03 PM
what's a glock?

it is the noise made by a duck-billed platypus during mating season

fallingbird
June 30, 2010, 08:09 PM
I think revolvers with big holes are very intimidating (especially shiny nickel ones).

Rexster
June 30, 2010, 08:13 PM
Sorry, but no Glocks for me. It would take too much surgery on the glock's frame to make it work for me, and then, there would still be the neither-fish-nor-fowl mushy trigger. I did carry a G22 in my duty holster for a brief period, a bit over two years, as an interim duty pistol. I could never perform with that G22 to the level I could with a sixgun or a 1911. Once I discovered that a factory short trigger made a P229 fit my hand/fingers, the Glocks soon went away. (I am required to buy my own duty weapons, and after 2002 had to carry one of several specified .40 autos.)

Though I had long tended to carry my duty handgun on my own time, too, when I was carrying a G22 on duty, I toted SP101 snubbies on my own time. I could shoot the SP101s better than the G22!

In a real fight, the revolver is second to none up to the point it is out of ammo, and then, a second handgun on the belt beats any reload for speed. During a period of several years, several felons got to look up the barrel of a big stainless GP100 while my duty 1911, G22, or SIG P229 remained in the duty rig. Yes sir, a sixgun is perfectly suitable for starting a serious gunfight.

FWIW, I am not yet a half century old. I started "peace officering" near the end of the revolver's reign as the duty handgun, and had to carry a revolver during my first year of service, though I had actually started handgunning shortly before that time with a 1911. Though I initially looked upon sixguns as archaic, I knew I had to survive with sixguns, and made a point of learning DA sixgunning. I soon learned to love DA sixgunning, and have liked both revolvers and autos since then. Well, to be specific, certain autos and sixguns. I could live with either system, to the exclusion of the other, but why?

wlewisiii
June 30, 2010, 08:49 PM
In 1982, Uncle Sam taught me how to shoot a handgun with 1911A1. As soon as I could buy myself a handgun, I bought a Colt Trooper Mk III. These days it's a S&W 64 instead. No Glock & no desire for one. 18 rounds of 158gr LSWCHP +P (with two speedloaders) will do for me.

My wife does own a Colt Targetsman FWIW.

William

Marvin KNox
June 30, 2010, 09:19 PM
When the poop hits the fan I'll be pulling my snub nosed .357 magnum revolver.

If it hits the fan for more than 5 shots I'll be pulling my other snub nosed .357 magnum revolver.

If I can't get the job done with those it'll be graduation day and I'm ready for that as well.:)

smallbore
June 30, 2010, 09:38 PM
I'm 58 and like the operational simplicity of the revolver.

BCCL
June 30, 2010, 09:38 PM
Pretty sure if I hit you with a 45 caliber 255gr JPH from a revolver first, the 17 shots in your Glock are irrelevant to the event at hand........... :)

Legionnaire
June 30, 2010, 10:20 PM
I have "a" Glock ... and numerous Ruger and S&W revolvers. I like the Glock fine. But I like my wheelguns better.

pezo
June 30, 2010, 10:55 PM
No tupperware guns that go off when you sneeze and castorate plz. Ill stick with the steel wheelgun. Have long guns to, in case I need more. NO use for glocks at all.

ArkieVol
June 30, 2010, 11:44 PM
I think revolvers with big holes are very intimidating (especially shiny nickel ones).

I agree!

.44 mag. Ruger Redhawk and .44 Special S & W 396NG
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p77/ArkieVol/guns/44s_march2010_bjpg.jpg

armoredman
July 1, 2010, 12:06 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/respectyourelders.jpg

Smith 10-8. Inheritance revolver.

Shoots OK

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0003.jpg


Looks good.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0257.jpg

Yep, I'll keep it. Getting approved as alternate off duty gun.

No g-rocks. I have to carry one for work, qualify expert or distinguished expert with one every year, but I don't like 'em.

Guillermo
July 1, 2010, 01:01 AM
turning this into a glock-bashing thread is the among the quickest ways to get it closed

bdb benzino
July 1, 2010, 01:40 AM
I am 33 and think of my self as young, but am feeling old after 15 years of construction. With that said, my father raised me shooting S&W revolvers as he was a State policeman and was biased naturally cause that is what they carried. When I first started collecting seriously a couple of years ago, I started with semi-auto's but then moved to revolvers with in a year. I now own 4 revolvers out of 9 pistols, and my S&W 638 Bodyguard is my most comfortable pistol to CC. I feel like a true revolver guy at heart but see and use semi-auto's for CC when it feels appropriate. I love em all!!

snooperman
July 1, 2010, 11:04 AM
I enjoyed reading it. Like him, I think it is great to see younger shooters with the revolver. It is hard to beat for hunting , home protection and concealed carry.

bskillet
July 1, 2010, 11:11 AM
I'm 29 years old. First gun was a semi-auto Stoeger Cougar 9mm. Then I realized something: Revolvers are wicked cool. So I bought a S&W 627 PC. Revolvers are a lot of fun, very reliable, intrinsically more accurate, and the 357 is kills bad guys dead.

Haifisch
July 1, 2010, 11:33 AM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

I agree. I love my revolvers, but when the streets are being overrun with terrorists, I'll be trusting my Glocks.

saltydog452
July 1, 2010, 11:59 AM
Our 'Only One" would have to be a .22rf.

If we were to allow the political climate to restrict to 'only one', I'd imagine powder and primers would be restricted also.

A K22 or a Ruger Super Single Six and a few bricks of CCI/Federal Std Velocity 40 grain solids seems to be a decent idea.

salty

Cosmoline
July 1, 2010, 12:42 PM
Everyone can wax nostalgic all they want in a thread like this, but when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock.

When it "hits the fan" the need for any handgun is pretty minimal. It would be more accurate to say everyone is going to want a rifle.

Old Ranger
July 1, 2010, 01:17 PM
Self defense, for most of us, means less than 10 yards. We did an experiment once, where the an officer tried to un-snap and draw his pistol before his attacker (also one of us) rushed him from 15 yards or so with a knife. The guy with the knife was all over him several times in a row - - - he never got the pistol out in time. It was an eye opener.

My point is, as average citizens, in real life, there probably isn't going to be a 'gun fight' - - - maybe enough time for one or two shots - - - maybe. No reloads. The first one had better count, and it had better stop 'em in their tracks! I like a snubbie .38 + P Golden Sabre bullet in an up front strapless holster for those reasons. Glocks are OK, but I personally like Sig better - - - and you could probably get that first shot reliably. However, I'm almost certain I could get the second one as well - - - - out of my snubbie. And .38 + P Golden Sabres will flatten out like Portobella mushrooms and stay in the intended target.

I guess I do love wheel guns though; I have a copy of Elmer Keith's book Sixguns.

FLAvalanche
July 1, 2010, 04:06 PM
SaxonPig, NICE flat latch Centennial.

Here is my EDC...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/los3088/IMG_0008-650-1.jpg
Sweet Jesus that's one nice looking firearm...

MachIVshooter
July 1, 2010, 09:10 PM
when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock

Anyone reaching for a handgun when the chips are really down is a fool.

In the event of massive civil unrest, you can keep your Glocks. I'll be sittin' pretty with an AR-10 in my hands and an 11-87 Police across my back.

TwoNiner
July 2, 2010, 05:08 AM
I'm in my late 20s and a revolver guy through and through. All of my guns are revolvers at this point. I enjoy their simplicity. As chance has it I just bought my first semi-auto a few days ago: a ruger SR9c. I pick it up on Monday and we'll see how she shoots.

Nothing wrong with semi-autos IMO. Its always good to get a peek at whats on the other side of the fence, if ya know what I mean. I'm not going to comment on what's better in a gun fight, self defense, etc., those subjects have been beaten to death on various forums. To each is own! The good thing is that this is America and we can choose between either a revolver or a semi-auto (or both) for self defense.

AdamSean
July 2, 2010, 04:29 PM
I bought my first wheelgun when I was 25. When it comes down to the most dependable choice in a self defense firearm, I go with a revolver. I have never had one not go bang when I pulled the trigger or jam. Sometimes I carry an auto-loader, but 80% of the time, I am carrying a revolver.

jad0110
July 2, 2010, 04:55 PM
Well, I'm 31, and my revolvers outnumber my autos (errr, auto) by just a smidge ... :evil:


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/All/DSC07560.jpg

earlthegoat2
July 2, 2010, 04:57 PM
Im quite astounded that an article like this even needs to be written.

My first CCW as a ripe old 21 year old was this. It is still my primary.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/earlthegoat2/SDC11601.jpg

S&Wfan
July 2, 2010, 10:19 PM
When something goes bump in the night, the handgun I want in my hand is this one . . . even over all my bottom feeders. Why? Because of how well it fits my hand and how well I shoot it.

It's a chopped barrel (to 3 1/4") S&W Model 25-2 .45ACP revolver. Those seven BIG holes will cause most BGs to need an immediate diaper change.

Check out those big ol' Speer "Flying Ashtray" hollowpoint . . . definitely "old school."

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/415/415871/folders/305468/24492471.JPG

Speaking of "old school," I spanked about 35 fine competitors with it once at a steel match. Guns started empty . . . 18 steel plates and poppers had to fall in the fastest time to win ALL the money . . . and you could use any iron-sighted handgun you wanted. Yep . . . empty guns, ONE mandatory reload and 18 targets, most grabbed their high cap. .45 competition automatics.

They laughed and said, 'How are you expecting to win with a six-shooter?" "Fast, clean and accurate," I said. They weren't laughing when I took their money!;) I can reload this moon clipped revolver as fast as my 1911 competition guns . . . and shoot it best too.

Yep . . . this is one formidable gun!

I have nothing against a fine automatic and own my share . . . but one should shoot what he shoots best. It's not about massive ammo reserves, its about hitting your target quickly and consistently under pressure that will usually "win."

Also, we are accountable for each and every bullet that leaves our barrel, including those which miss our intended target.

earlthegoat2
July 2, 2010, 10:26 PM
Those seven BIG holes...

Those six BIG holes

pcwirepro
July 2, 2010, 10:27 PM
Hey S&Wfan,

Your mother-in-law take that picture?

Just kidding. I'd run if I saw that!

los
July 3, 2010, 10:21 AM
... I'd run if I saw that!
Is that before or after you soil your underwear..?

I'd run during. (Eeewwww..!)

Erik M
July 3, 2010, 09:41 PM
I think If I were examined by a medical professioal the forensic diagnosis of my sickness would progress like so . .


Taurus PT99 - - - > Jericho 941 - - - > This website, Youtube, Wikipedia & others - - - > S&W 64 - - - > S&W 638 - - - > Taurus Tracker 44 - - - > Ruger GP100 - - - > Some type of fever that can only be cured by a Redhawk or SP101


Definetly a chronic revolver addiction.

stevegc
July 4, 2010, 05:30 PM
My Dad is 80 and has a Hi-Power that he loves but he can no longer rack the slide. Got him a GP100 and he is back in business and loves it.

MR.G
July 4, 2010, 09:13 PM
I am old and own both autos and revolvers. I prefer a fine tuned .357 magnum revolver with good grips over any auto.

antiquus
July 5, 2010, 01:24 AM
When it came time to decide, it because obvious that for CC purposes I needed something simple, safe and effective. In a situation where I'd need a gun, I'd be a fool not to think I'd be surprised, upset, not thinking well, and needing to take quick action. One of the things I wasn't going to count on was a a gun with complex controls, it had to be dead simple. It had to be capable of being carried and neglected, full of gum wrappers and lint, and still function correctly. And I decided a 15 shot magazine was unneeded on a SD gun, after the first shot both me and the bad guy will be heading for cover, and if still shooting then it will be decided before either of us gets 5 rounds off, so I decided a 5 round snubbie was really viable. One thing I did do was practice, so 15 shots aren't required. Right now I can reliably hit a man at 50 yards with a 2" snubbie.

Then is came time to arm the Wife. After screwing around a bit, I decided to get serious and give her the snubbie for all the reasons above. For a daughter who needed to carry I got another snubbie. And I will do the same for a 2nd daughter who's considering carrying.

Currently I'm carrying a PA-63, based on being a great value for the money and reliable as all Mak's are, much to admire and easier to clean, but I'm tired of chasing my brass. When I take care of some other needs, I will be back in the market for a good 3-4" barrel revolver, maybe in something interesting like .45 ACP, or an 8 shot .357.

BBQLS1
July 5, 2010, 10:21 AM
los, I'm usually into shiny guns, but that snubbie really makes me want one. That gun is sweet.

jcello
July 5, 2010, 10:48 AM
los, who makes those speedloaders? I have never seen anything like them, and they perfectly complement the gun.

BCCL
July 5, 2010, 10:58 AM
They look like 3D Inc., very nice!!

http://www.3dinc.net/page2.php

jcello
July 5, 2010, 08:04 PM
They look like 3D Inc., very nice!!

http://www.3dinc.net/page2.php
Thanks BCCL! Those are beautiful. I'll be ordering a couple of those bad boys tonight!

easyg
July 5, 2010, 08:14 PM
I think revolvers with big holes are very intimidating (especially shiny nickel ones).
Revolver or auto....when looking down the barrel, both look plenty intimidating to me.


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM6440.jpg


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM6453.jpg

easyg
July 5, 2010, 08:20 PM
when the poop hits the fan, everyone knows they are gonna want a Glock

Anyone reaching for a handgun when the chips are really down is a fool.

In the event of massive civil unrest, you can keep your Glocks. I'll be sittin' pretty with an AR-10 in my hands and an 11-87 Police across my back.
Actually, the ones visibly carrying the long guns will probably be the first ones killed during a massive civil unrest.
And they most likely will never even see it coming....probably will be shot in the back.

The ones carrying a concealed pistol (revolver or auto) will probably be the ones who survive.

You see, guys toting long guns look more like a potential threat than guys who have no weapons visible. ;)

hiram2005
July 5, 2010, 08:28 PM
Those six BIG holes
Naw there's seven. One in the end of the barrel.

fireside44
July 5, 2010, 08:31 PM
And they most likely will never even see it coming....probably will be shot in the back.

By someone visibly carrying a long gun, no doubt.:uhoh:

earlthegoat2
July 5, 2010, 08:56 PM
Naw there's seven. One in the end of the barrel.

Right you are there. A little optical illusion and a time warp something....

los
July 5, 2010, 09:39 PM
THANKS, Guys.

The Speedloader set is made by 5 Star Firearms. Pricing is very reasonable. Here's the link....

http://www.5starfirearms.com/speed_loaders.html


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/los3088/SWModel40with5StarSpeedloader-05-2.jpg

BCCL
July 5, 2010, 10:04 PM
Man those are some seriously nice loaders!!!!

NMGonzo
July 5, 2010, 11:20 PM
I was toting my gp100 today.

Because I could ... what a nice shooting piece it is.

Last week I was hitting a torso sized target at over 200 yards.

It's a 4 inch.

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