just your typical guy with a ccw


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filament
July 2, 2010, 12:40 AM
So I was sitting in a communications class that I have to take for my degree program at the local community college. We have started a project that has the students in the class pairing up and the teacher assigning a debate topic. As the teacher assigned topics, the female sitting next to me became overly excited and turned to me saying "Oh my god! I hope I get the pro gun control side of one of the debates". As she said this she had her fingers crossed with an exaggerated look of excitement and anticipation on her face.

It was neither the time nor the place to tell her that the nice guy that sits next to her, your humble narrator, had his Glock 32 with additional mag carried iwb on his hip. This is completely legal with the CCW permit that I do have in the state that I reside.

I think she would be shocked and astounded if she were to ever find out that the guy she was sitting next to was carrying a gun. This would be especially shocking to her because I have been nothing less than cordial and personable to her during the course of this class.

(Hopefully if there are any anti gunners trolling this board and they read this, they might see that there are gun owners that carry all through out society and we peacefully coexist with everyone else.)

Sadly I have had to ask permission from the government to get my concealed carry permit, but I am a law abiding citizen and I obeyed the law. I went through the class and the back ground check for this states permit and waited passionatley for my permit to arrive in the mail.

I have had different permits as I have moved to different states through out the years. I know the value of being armed and I have carried religiously ever since my first permit arrived in the mail.

I am just your typical, every day guy that wants to make it home safe to my family at the end of the day. By carrying a gun it helps insure that if the need ever arose I would be able to stand a fighting chance to make that happen.

I know this was a long post but I had to share this with people that I know would understand.

If you made it to this point in the post, thanks for reading.

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Quilbilly
July 2, 2010, 12:50 AM
AMEN brother.

fireman 9731
July 2, 2010, 01:07 AM
So do you get to debate about gun laws?

LRS_Ranger
July 2, 2010, 02:03 AM
Good job.. I wonder if she is a die hard, or just a cool-aid drinker. My in-laws used to be pretty anti-gun but in the last 2 years I've rubbed off a bit.. Not nearly as die hard as I once thought that they were.. My mother in law actually said she would go shooting with me the other day..

danprkr
July 2, 2010, 09:03 AM
Yeah, did either of you get gun control?

bannockburn
July 2, 2010, 09:38 AM
filament

Very well written; you did an excellent job of expressing what probably are the same fundamental reasons why many of us utilize CCW. Keep up the good work.

So what topic were you assigned to debate?

Mudinyeri
July 2, 2010, 09:57 AM
You can carry on school property in your state? Lucky SOB. :banghead:

MedWheeler
July 2, 2010, 12:20 PM
I've often pointed out that, in my state, the odds are that one out of every 25 adults a person sees in the local mall or Wal-Mart is a weapons-carry license-holder, and is likely carrying. Yet, everyone still manages to leave the establishment with their lives still intact..

Officers'Wife
July 2, 2010, 12:30 PM
No matter where you go you will run into a Nancy.

http://www.jconline.com/article/20100702/OPINION02/7020311/July-2-Letters-to-the-editor

However, in the comment section a guy pointed out that roughly 3% of the population of Tippecanoe county has concealed carry permits and the odds of being around a CCW are about the same as being around someone with red hair. So far she hasn't given her reflection on that little fact.

Chemist
July 2, 2010, 12:33 PM
Give her time, college parking lots aren't safe and when she finds this out she'll jump to "our" side of the fence.

JellyJar
July 2, 2010, 12:41 PM
filament

Please tell us if either of you was assigned one side or the other on gun control. Please don't leave the rest of us on pins and needles? :)

Zack
July 2, 2010, 12:45 PM
I was sitting in a communications class that I have to take for my degree program at the local community college.

This is completely legal with the CCW permit that I do have in the state that I reside

What state is this?????

Schofield3
July 2, 2010, 12:50 PM
What state is this?????

+1!!!

Seriously a community college???

DoubleTapDrew
July 2, 2010, 01:04 PM
the odds are that one out of every 25 adults a person sees in the local mall or Wal-Mart is a weapons-carry license-holder, and is likely carrying.
And if they are eating nachos at Wal-Mart the odds jump to 1:2!

I have carried concealed in college. It's not illegal in this state although the colleges seem to think they can make their own laws. Nobody has challenged them on it yet but I'm sure the day will come.

dstoke
July 2, 2010, 02:32 PM
the problem I've found in trying to talk to people who are like that is that you cannot win by wining more debate points with them, as with almost any topic that matters to people. I find that if you could sit down with them one on one, say over lunch or coffee and explain the reason why you are carrying, while respecting her opinion but pointing out respectfully and reasonably why you disagree with them, then that's a great start. They may not be changed at all, but most of the time the people I've talked to are reasonable enough that they understand why I carry while maintaining that they themselves would never have a gun. Most of the time I explain it like most of you guys have taught me, that it's my right first and foremost, that I'm not some paranoid guy walking around waiting for a fight to start and gun control laws have not and never will prevent criminals from carrying a weapon. Most of the time they will agree with those statements but it's hard to completely change one's opinion when emotions are involved with it, since logic is usually the first thing to fly out the window. And that applies to everyone, not just anti-gun people.

filament
July 2, 2010, 03:30 PM
Neither of us ended up with the gun control debate topic. My topic ended up being deep water oil drilling and the female ended up getting something about space exploration.

Officers'Wife
July 2, 2010, 04:21 PM
Hi dstoke

I find that if you could sit down with them one on one, say over lunch or coffee and explain the reason why you are carrying, while respecting her opinion but pointing out respectfully and reasonably why you disagree with them, then that's a great start.

One thing that has worked well for me it quivering my lower lip and asking what I have ever done to make them think I'm the kind of person that would shoot them without reason.

bannockburn
July 2, 2010, 07:03 PM
filament

That figures. They probably gave the gun control debate to the astronaut and the petroleum geologist in your class.

oldfool
July 2, 2010, 07:33 PM
live and let live, friends
it's only those who for real won't allow you to do that, that you really need worry about

subjective perspective

oldfool
July 2, 2010, 07:39 PM
Hi dstoke



One thing that has worked well for me it quivering my lower lip and asking what I have ever done to make them think I'm the kind of person that would shoot them without reason.
not meaning to sound overly familiar, ma'm.. but if I saw your lip quivering, I think I would be thinking about retreat or cover
(respectfully)

Officers'Wife
July 3, 2010, 12:16 AM
not meaning to sound overly familiar, ma'm.. but if I saw your lip quivering, I think I would be thinking about retreat or cover
(respectfully)

For someone that claims to be a fool, you sound like someone that has gotten this old by living this long. (The favorite phrase of my much loved grandfather.)

Let me rephrase- When I'm confronted by people that take the attitude that firearm ownership tends to create innocent death I try to convey it hurts my feelings they would think such a thing of me personally.

oldfool
July 3, 2010, 02:36 AM
"When I'm confronted by people that take the attitude that firearm ownership tends to create innocent death I try to convey it hurts my feelings they would think such a thing of me personally."

I knew that, ma'm, no confusion factor here...
my Blue Angel, she is the same way, always was... she never was inclined to harm others, even if they well deserved it...

but she is a damn good shot with a Ruger SP101 or S&W 66 or 92 Beretta or... (etc)
me, I figured out the "quivering lip" thing, even before she explained the "farmer and the mule" joke to me.. once

(my mama raised a fool, not an idiot child)

GoingQuiet
July 3, 2010, 04:07 AM
According to the wikipedia:

On December 11, 2008, Mountain States Legal Foundation filed suit against the University of Colorado on behalf of SCCC and its members. [2] The suit seeks to resolve inconsistencies between state law and campus policies and protect the right of self-defense guaranteed by the Concealed Carry Act and the Colorado Constitution. [3] On April 15, 2010, the Colorado Court of Appeals ruled in favor of SCCC.[4] Subsequently, numerous colleges and universities in Colorado have repealed bans on licensed concealed carry, including: Colorado State University, Arapahoe Community College, Colorado Northwestern Community College, Community College of Aurora, Community College of Denver, Front Range Community College, Lamar Community College, Morgan Community College, Northeastern Junior College, Otero Junior College, Pikes Peak Community College, Pueblo Community College, Red Rocks Community College, Trinidad State Junior College, and Aims Community College.[5][6]

wishin
July 3, 2010, 01:32 PM
As the teacher assigned topics, the female sitting next to me became overly excited and turned to me saying "Oh my god! I hope I get the pro gun control side of one of the debates". As she said this she had her fingers crossed with an exaggerated look of excitement and anticipation on her face.

You could have asked her to lunch to discuss the pros and cons of gun ownership.:rolleyes:

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