Does this guy really need a gun? Really?


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dec41971
July 3, 2010, 08:43 PM
Who thinks this dude needs a gun? Seems to me just his mere presence will scare the adults and traumatize children :evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQMdUKqAOQ&feature=player_embedded

Not the best example of guy who needs a gun! Just thought it sounds odd him saying he needs it for protection ha ha. Sometimes you have to see the irony in life. :D

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FourteenMiles
July 3, 2010, 08:47 PM
'Cause we all know muscular dudes are never the victim of crime.

orionengnr
July 3, 2010, 08:48 PM
Fortunately, the Second Amendment never mentions "need" as a qualifier. :)

What we "need" is more people like him--good ambassadors for the 2A.

jon86
July 3, 2010, 08:49 PM
I am confused here...

Does he not need a gun because he is as swole as a linebacker?

What good will all that muscle do if he is confronted by an armed criminal?

He needs a gun.

Coolbreeze8804
July 3, 2010, 09:14 PM
Yes. He needs a gun. I think everyone needs a gun. Especially a guy like that who has probably been that target of someone with something to prove more than once. He is well spoken and a fine ambassador.

dec41971
July 3, 2010, 09:14 PM
I am pro-2A ofcourse, and not trying to say it discriminates based on true need. But that said, I was pointing out the irony. Come-on, we gotta admit the truth sometimes. I mean don't you all think even a guy with a gun will think twice about attacking this dude? Human nature is not necessarily logical, and believe it or not, his size and physical fitness alone is very likely to deter any armed thug. :D

jon86
July 3, 2010, 09:16 PM
He is well spoken and a fine ambassador.

+1, I agree.

TylerPearce
July 3, 2010, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't even think twice if I saw that man open carrying. He looks and sounds very professional and educated. I am not 100% sure about open carry laws in Michigan, but I think anybody who feels the need to legally carry a weapon should do just that.

parsimonious_instead
July 3, 2010, 09:43 PM
His physical size will probably deter a huge percentage of would-be attackers.
The gun on his hip will deter about 90% of that remainder.
The leftover few still interested in taking him on are probably too high/crazy/full of machismo to care. And by the end of the encounter, they'll almost certainly wish they had cared.

Big Boy
July 3, 2010, 09:44 PM
lol it's kinda funny. The gun looks so teeny.

NMGonzo
July 3, 2010, 09:46 PM
Let me tell ya about my sister's boyfriend.

His nickname was HE_MAN ... because he just looked like him.

Got shot with a .32 cal in the abdomen.

His life was never the same with all the medical complications.

Mugged while working at a pizza shop.

GunsBeerFreedom
July 3, 2010, 09:48 PM
Being big is not the same as being skilled in hand to hand combat. Indeed, most "big" guys are rather limited in experience, people often choosing not to fight them because of the perceived superiority with regards to size.

Further, being big doesn't stop bullets or blades.

kingpin008
July 3, 2010, 09:52 PM
I mean don't you all think even a guy with a gun will think twice about attacking this dude? Human nature is not necessarily logical, and believe it or not, his size and physical fitness alone is very likely to deter any armed thug.

You assume that all attackers are thinking logically. An individual on drugs, or who is mentally ill, or just doesn't care what happens to him wouldn't necessarily care a whit about the guy's bulk.

And, as others have already pointed out - mass doesn't equal fighting ability.

Haifisch
July 3, 2010, 09:58 PM
It doesnt matter how big you are if you are staring into a gun barrel unarmed.

Gryffydd
July 3, 2010, 10:03 PM
Is this for real? Just beacuse he's big he can't get shot or sliced open so he doesn't need a gun? Really?

Nathanael_Greene
July 3, 2010, 10:23 PM
Who thinks this dude needs a gun?

I think it's none of my business, just as my gun ownership is none of his...or yours.

Big_E
July 3, 2010, 10:33 PM
Huge muscles don't stop metal projectiles traveling at fast speeds very well. So if he wants a gun he should be able to have one.

This reminds me I need to start working out again.

sig220mw
July 3, 2010, 10:47 PM
Doesn't matter whether or not he "needs" a gun. I don't "need" a gun.

I want one and it is my right just as it is his.

Just as it is yours.

If you don't understand that and aren't willing to stand up for his right then you really don't get it.

Rail Driver
July 3, 2010, 11:03 PM
In my opinion, his sheer bulk makes him a target to someone that knows what they're looking for. He doesn't move well, his range of motion is inhibited by the size of his muscles. Sure he's (probably) strong, but even the strongest man has most of the same weak points... Blind spots (how far do you think he can turn his head?), knees, insteps, I probably wouldn't try to come at him from the front that's for sure, but yeah it's not unreasonable for someone like him to carry. He's at least as much of a target as anyone else.

+1 for the "Wisconsin Crusher"

Zack
July 3, 2010, 11:05 PM
Just because his got muscle does not mean hes going be bullet proof.

Onward Allusion
July 4, 2010, 12:22 AM
I guess big guys just scare crime away, eh? :rolleyes:



dec41971 (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=107706)
Does this guy really need a gun? Really???
Who thinks this dude needs a gun? Seems to me just his mere presence will scare the adults and traumatize children :evil:
<SNIP>

MinnMooney
July 4, 2010, 12:35 AM
Sometimes you have to see the irony in life. I see no "irony" here. What if this gent gets appoached by 2, 3 or more gang members with knives. Huge biceps won't help much at deflecting blades.

CleverNickname
July 4, 2010, 01:13 AM
Just because his got muscle does not mean hes going be bullet proof.

Carrying a gun doesn't make someone bulletproof either.

Sunray
July 4, 2010, 03:09 AM
"...Seems to me just his mere presence will..." Lose the idea that one's physical size matters. It's how you carry yourself that matters. Looking like a victim will make you one. Look like you own the World means the criminals will leave you alone.
Nik is very likely a very good guy. He's just questioning the WI law that say no concealed carry. Open carry is ok, so he does.
That video is anti-firearm too. More than half was about how bad the WI open carry law is.
"...His physical size will probably deter a huge percentage of would-be attackers..." Not as much as how you carry yourself. There are a lot of idiots who will try him on because of his size too. Poor guy needs one of us beer drinking layabouts to help him not get hurt.

stickhauler
July 4, 2010, 03:46 AM
Not the best example of guy who needs a gun! Just thought it sounds odd him saying he needs it for protection ha ha. Sometimes you have to see the irony in life.

I'll relate a little life history to you. I was a returning vet in 1973, from our cool summer camp in SE Asia. I was, at that time, down to 5'7' after entering the military at 5'71/2", and all of 125 pounds. I had a bad attitude with the world, and was still frankly pissed about my welcome back to the world.

I sought out young men that looked just like this guy, to make them extremely angry, and induce them into a fight, by whatever means necessary. Don't judge me, you were not there. I lost some fights, I won some. You learn not to judge the dog in the fight, and judge the fight in the dog.

So, in your opinion this man does not deserve the right to defend himself without going to violent interaction? That my friend is your issue. I'll not claim my experience as the best time of my life, and I regret my aggressive behavior to this day. I was mad as all hell, and someone was going to take my anger at being treated in a manner I felt was wrong. Had one of these guys carried a handgun and reacted by taking my idiot ass out, he'd have been justified.

I can only thank God that he looks out for idiots and damned fools, or I'd not be here to post this. This guy may well wear his heart on his sleeve. Saying he's not threatened by a violent person any more than a 98 pound weakling is the epitome of improper judgment based on appearances. This man deserves the right to defend himself without being struck just as much as a 95 pound female does.

bigfatdave
July 4, 2010, 06:40 AM
dec41971, you can't possibly be serious.
EVERY CITIZEN has the right to arm themselves however the heck they want to, that's what "shall not be infringed" means.

Harley Rider 55
July 4, 2010, 06:49 AM
EVERYONE needs to carry a gun. Big guys just make big targets.

scythefwd
July 4, 2010, 07:46 AM
He, more than anyone else, needs a gun. I see a man with that much size discrepancy that I am planning on robbing and I'm going in more than armed. I'm hitting him in the back of the head with a tire iron. Don't know too many unarmed men I would worry about after I did that. He is a big guy, and because of that delinquents are going to try and hit him from behind, with a brick. That gun will still hit hard even after his arms have gone to jelly from getting a concussion.

CajunBass
July 4, 2010, 07:50 AM
Maybe he just "wants" a gun.

Good enough for me.

Leaky Waders
July 4, 2010, 08:44 AM
"God made every man different; Sam Colt made them equal."

Personally, I think, at birth every citizen should be given two coupons: one for a 45 either 1911 or SAA - their choice - and one for a 30-30. Both redeemable on their 18th birthday.

Double Naught Spy
July 4, 2010, 08:45 AM
Who thinks this dude needs a gun?
Outside of his reach, his powerful muscles are virtually useless.

Interesting that he says that what he does isn't meant to be a political statement, but is head of a political organization promoting open carry. The two aren't mutually exclusive, I understand, but the dichotomy is interesting.

EddieNFL
July 4, 2010, 08:48 AM
Reel in the bait, dude.

I know at least three guys I who could hand him his butt on a plate. None of them weigh more that 160.

shockwave
July 4, 2010, 08:48 AM
So, in your opinion this man does not deserve the right to defend himself

Nobody said that. I take the OP's link in the spirit intended - this guy looks like a rolling tank. And it's funny, but in most cases, the people I spot CCW in public tend to be guys like this. Maybe they just don't conceal well, but from a demographic perspective, I'm starting to gather the impression that your typical concealed weapon carrier is usually a big guy.

Big Wes
July 4, 2010, 09:18 AM
I think the bleeding heart libral woman in the video needs to be confronted by the business end of a pistol and maybe she'll change her views on guns.

Oh and as far as that dude needing a gun....NO..... he should have more than one gun.

Cromlech
July 4, 2010, 09:47 AM
That man could probably CC a LAR Grizzly or Desert Eagle. :D

Good on him, he was well spoken, polite, and came across very well.

ozarkgunner
July 4, 2010, 11:07 AM
Large size does not make you less of a target, but thats not the issue we are fighting. This "anti" in the video did not make referance to anyone's size. Just the stupid innane argument that more guns creates more violence. We were givin the right to posses guns by the fonders of the country because they knew there was a need for them. They weren't under the dellusion that now that we had won our freedom, with the ample use of guns, that we would no longer need them.
The simple invention of the gun, made it some thing that would be around as long as there are people. Just like the atom bomb. We may not have wanted the "wrong" people to have them, but they got them, so we keep them to try to keep them from using them against us.
I don't get how the antis think that taking guns aways from normal, civil people, will end gun violence. Are they going to get the criminals down the street to trun in their guns when I turn mine in? No.

So until there is some magic wand, or StarTrek scanner that can find every gun on earth, and stop people from making new ones, guns are going to be around. They will be used against the innocent. They will be used to commit crimes. Etc. There fore, I, and many thousands of others will be keeping our guns, and carrying them.
I'm 6ft, 270lbs, I have martial arts training, I can defend my self from most attackers. And since "I can" only "defend myself from most attackers" I will carry a gun with me to defend myself from attackers that I couldn't do other wise. and 95% of the time I don't carry to defend my self, I carry to defend my wife and kids.

gordy
July 5, 2010, 11:23 AM
Put this guy in gray or blue and he could be any big cop or sheriff on the streets today. Just being big don't let you off the hook. lots of Cops are big and littel bad guys go after them every day. Todays bad guys seam to go after just about anyone.

General Geoff
July 5, 2010, 11:29 AM
Unless this guy can shoot laser beams from his eyes, YES, he needs a gun.

Mags
July 5, 2010, 11:33 AM
I love how they got a guy that looks like a wine-o to comment against carrying a firearms.

dec41971
July 5, 2010, 12:00 PM
dec41971, you can't possibly be serious.
EVERY CITIZEN has the right to arm themselves however the heck they want to, that's what "shall not be infringed" means.
I was not implying in way shape or form that he should not have a right. I stated clearly I am a friendly here. Heck I have a CCW myself if that counts for anything. I was just pointing out the very obvious irony here. Let me try to pose this differently; Would you choose this guy to represent why we need to carry? I think that argument would be better presented by for example a weak looking female not the hulk. :D

Also I think 2A being such an emotional issue, some people are reading too much into my original statement. And I do still think his size is a very effective deterrent. How many guys this size have you seen reported to have been attacked by the usual suspects we are all concerned about here? :confused:

Forget assassins or professional zombies with a plan, your firearm probably won't do you much good with those as they will would use tactics that render you defenseless before they do the deed. But to be clear I do agree most everyone should have the right to arm themselves as they see fit, regardless of real need.

tpaw
July 5, 2010, 12:02 PM
Does this guy really need a gun? Really???

God made big men and God made small men. A handgun is the equalizer.

Lonestar49
July 5, 2010, 12:05 PM
...

Got to love how the anti's twist the 2nd, in that, this man has the_Right and, fortunately, is supported by that States law/s.

What are we teaching our children..? That is a very good question considering - this is funny, but really sad/disturbing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQ6XgXeNuY&feature=player_embedded

Just like grandpa, in times past, educations were on the basics, the foundations of what made this country great and its mistakes on the way..

And during Grandpa's days/time, kids ran around with toy guns, revolvers with snap caps and there were no accidental shootings of such.. kids at play, people freaking out at the noise or the kids "at play"

Today, paint the muzzles orange - kids are not allowed to play with others kids based on "guns are bad", etc., much like this woman's claims that guns lead to more violence even though I'd bet the farm good citizens like this man et. al. are the least of anyone's fears - as they go out each day and come home without actually flaunting their weapon or using it. Unless, of course, confronted by any criminal element that own stolen weapons that we all know, even if all guns were banned, the criminal element would still have them, know where and how to get them, no different than when Booze was banned - it still was around, speaking of which..

Booze causes 10 times the amount of deaths/damage than guns, each year, yet I'd bet she has her "happy times" like many others and, yet, she can't see the responsibly factor of limiting one's intake or taking a cab or having a designated driver that works "and fails" with many, far more than the gun-Rights society, in all, and yet having booze in the house, unlocked, unsupervised, let's many kids, their friends, come over and take a snip and then get this funny feeling to borrow the car and take a fast drive and we hear/read about the deadly aftermath after, daily on the news..

Not to mention "cell phones".. talking or texting while driving.. these cause more deaths and injury's than weapons, ban them. But no would be the cry - we need the in case of an "emergency" (ah, like one's gun maybe..?) or vital for business a/o communication/s, they save lives getting help, quickly, for someone (again, like a gun for SD..? ) This is true, IF used responsibly - the same fact that apply s to one's handgun for SD, but this must be a higher form of math that has been forgotten, obsolete, like Grandpa's back in the days of the basic's vs what (if anything) the kids, and seen adults on video, have been, and are being, taught today.. Progressive crap that is really working for the better of our society and our future.. not

At least the booze facts and cell phone abuses yearly numbers are "accurate" vs the deaths or injury's by guns is reported, in full, whether (civi or law enforcement) a legal, good, shoot, or death from one gang member/s to another, suicides (by choice) AD/ND, much like car accidents, etc., vs how the guns injury's/deaths are lumped in one big, much smaller pile than drunk-drivers/cell phone abusers.

Seems like what's good, fair, for the goose should be fair for the gander as well but, no, not in these very tunneled visioned, one-sided, short-sighted thinking well-wishers for the innocent to remain such.. by stripping the law abiding, legal, citizens and our Right.. "and shall not be infringed".. by going against what, and how, the 2nd is written, for and about, without a care about infringing on others Rights..


Ls

Gouranga
July 5, 2010, 12:20 PM
I am sorry if this comes off a bit confrontational to the OP, but really, does getting yourself in good shape mean they suddenly are bulletproof? That nobody will try to rob him? That a crackhead won't go after him? I had a friend in High school who was HUGE. I mean just ripped. he was the least violent person I have known but was always in fights. People would seek him out to start fights. It was freaky to behold but they would.

The implied assertion that someone with great muscle mass forfeits their right to bear arms, IS an anti-2A position. He is violating no laws, carrying a weapon for protection just like I do, and like many on this board do.

NinjaFeint
July 5, 2010, 12:46 PM
I am sorry if this comes off a bit confrontational to the OP, but really, does getting yourself in good shape mean they suddenly are bulletproof? That nobody will try to rob him? That a crackhead won't go after him? I had a friend in High school who was HUGE. I mean just ripped. he was the least violent person I have known but was always in fights. People would seek him out to start fights. It was freaky to behold but they would.

The implied assertion that someone with great muscle mass forfeits their right to bear arms, IS an anti-2A position. He is violating no laws, carrying a weapon for protection just like I do, and like many on this board do.
You are trolling yourself.

I like how the OP was having fun and you geniuses had to use it as a platform to thump your chest on 2A. Learn to take a joke.

Guns and more
July 5, 2010, 12:51 PM
He has a right to a gun, just like I do.

miamiboy
July 5, 2010, 01:02 PM
I think this guy is an excellent example for people, both anti-gun and pro-gun. It shows that no matter who you are, or how big you are, the need for arms for personal defense applies to everyone (even that nitwit lady).

rbernie
July 5, 2010, 01:05 PM
I like how the OP was having fun and you geniuses had to use it as a platform to thump your chest on 2A. Learn to take a joke. This is The High Road. We exist to support and further the RKBA, using intelligent dialog as our principal tool. The OP did nothing OTHER than imply that big guys DON'T NEED GUNS.

Not the best example of guy who needs a gun! Just thought it sounds odd him saying he needs it for protection ha ha. Sometimes you have to see the irony in life.

That is such an anti-RKBA meme that it should not come as any surprise that folk here might object to it.

xcgates
July 5, 2010, 01:06 PM
I do think its a bit amusing, just because it is automatic, in my mind, to associate a larger guy with being able to handle a "bar fight" better. I don't by any stretch of the imagination think he shouldn't have a gun, but that doesn't make it funny. Kind of like one of Larry the Cable Guy's jokes: "Is it right to laugh at that kind of guy? No. [pause] Is it funny? Heck yeah!"

That said, recently in a combatives course I had the dubious pleasure of being demonstrate on for technique a smaller woman can use on a larger guy. In other words, using just her thumbs and a bit of her elbows, a 5 ft nothing instructor had me tapping out very quickly. Oh, and I am 6 ft, 160 pounds.

NinjaFeint
July 5, 2010, 01:42 PM
This is The High Road. We exist to support and further the RKBA, using intelligent dialog as our principal tool. The OP did nothing OTHER than imply that big guys DON'T NEED GUNS.

This site furthers nothing. It embodies the very reason RKBA is held back, close-mindedness. Maybe if you took off your blinders and got out of your little bubble you would realize it.

The only people you reach with this site is people already on your side. Showing you have little to no sense of humor does nothing to help your cause. If I was on the fence about gun ownership, this site would do nothing to sway me towards it.

Before you call me an "anti", which is the crutch of people here, look at my previous posts. Most of the posters here need to quit the rhetoric and bible thumping, it only turns people away.

Lonestar49
July 5, 2010, 01:54 PM
You are trolling yourself.

I like how the OP was having fun and you *geniuses had to use it as a platform to thump your chest on 2A. Learn to take a joke.


...

*plural - all or many of us who have already responded:

Well, I'm no genius, and I got the_joke part ( :D ) - saw it but, still, the question, in humor, was asked and the nice, serious, anti-gun lady speaking was all business, as was the gentleman expressing, quite well, his Right, nothing more.. or less, therefore:

So, who's really trolling for some feed back over and over..?


Ls

EddieNFL
July 5, 2010, 02:17 PM
Showing you have little to no sense of humor does nothing to help your cause.


Seems to indicate which side you're on.

NinjaFeint
July 5, 2010, 02:19 PM
Seems to indicate which side you're on.
You can pick out whatever words you like, I have posted pictures of my carry set up on this site. I would obviously support the right to carry being that I do so.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=518642 Post #7

Try a little harder next time.

This is mine too

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac112/ninjataint/2009-12-10161159-1.jpg

earlthegoat2
July 5, 2010, 03:04 PM
I personally think open carry is a great way to increase firearms education and awareness. Further I think it will decrease the shock value guns have associated with them by the mis and uninformed.

I think open carry in a state that prohibits concealed carry is a great way to get concealed carry laws made.

Having said all of this though I do not open carry (have done it once in my life) but I have never lived in a state that allowed open carry and prohibited concealed carry.

Fatelvis
July 5, 2010, 04:18 PM
I think concealed carry is a much better option, if one has the choice. It eliminates most of the discussed opinions and problems. The Woman who asks if this is the kind of Society that we want our kids to see, has her head up her a**. I want my kids to question things, and not trust every Tom, Dick and Harry they come across. Her kids are raised to be targets.

Kwanger
July 5, 2010, 04:22 PM
Who thinks this dude needs a gun? Seems to me just his mere presence will scare the adults and traumatize children :evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQMdUKqAOQ&feature=player_embedded

Not the best example of guy who needs a gun! Just thought it sounds odd him saying he needs it for protection ha ha. Sometimes you have to see the irony in life. :D
Bit off topic, but thing I think is quite interesting about the vid in the context of open carry is that a big dude like that, with a haircut like that, will get no second looks from anyone when out and about open carrying - even though he's not, I bet people automatically assume he's a cop.

EddieNFL
July 5, 2010, 04:41 PM
You can pick out whatever words you like, I have posted pictures of my carry set up on this site. I would obviously support the right to carry being that I do so.

I didn't pick out anything. Those are "your" words. Perhaps you posted without thinking about word choice.


...and posting pix proves you know how to post pix.

sonier
July 5, 2010, 05:16 PM
that guy dont need a gun!! how bout a sledge hammer ;) that thing looks so small on him.

NinjaFeint
July 5, 2010, 09:31 PM
I didn't pick out anything. Those are "your" words. Perhaps you posted without thinking about word choice.


...and posting pix proves you know how to post pix.


Instead of addressing what I said, you picked out one word or phrase. You then took that phrase and used it to try to be clever. This is the most basic way to argue on the internet without actually saying anything.

Yes, I do know how to post pictures. You are again avoiding saying anything of relevance, stop trolling.

Gungnir
July 5, 2010, 09:59 PM
Instead of addressing what I said, you picked out one word or phrase. You then took that phrase and used it to try to be clever. This is the most basic way to argue on the internet without actually saying anything.

Yes, I do know how to post pictures. You are again avoiding saying anything of relevance, stop trolling.
I think the issue with the OP is simple. How many times have we all heard that there is no need for: -
Concealed carry
Semi Automatic rifles
Open carry
add your own issue here...


So when we see a title as was given, we naturally, respond to it like a pork chop in a synagogue.

I'll be honest I've owned and carried firearms in the US for as long as it has been legal for me to do so, and I've never had a call to use them in defense, so technically I've never "needed" them. However that's not relevant to the issue. The RKBA is a right, and to support that right as written it's the universal right to keep and bear arms, not "your" right, or my right, everyone's right.

YMMV

EddieNFL
July 5, 2010, 10:01 PM
You are again avoiding saying anything of relevance, stop trolling.

Apparently it worked.

Instead of addressing what I said, you picked out one word or phrase.

Actually, I picked out a statement. Again, perhaps you chose the wrong word. As far as addressing what you said, I thought I was quite clear. Maybe you are 100 percent pro 2nd, but that's not what I got from your post.

Moving on.

Kwanger
July 5, 2010, 10:19 PM
It was my impression that the OP was joking, wasn't he? Seems to me a few people took it serious.....

inSight-NEO
July 5, 2010, 10:41 PM
Not a very serious thread here, but I see the humor and, frankly, am bored; so I'll take the bait.....

Big, tough looking guy. But, I have know several individuals who "appear" just as menacing, yet they fall down just like the rest of us (given the proper, umm.. encouragement). ;)

Besides, mere size alone does not count for all that much, particularly when it comes to flesh vs. weapon....for the most part. Hence, yeah...even this guy could benefit from using a gun!

xcgates
July 5, 2010, 10:48 PM
For those who are confused: OP was being funny, and didn't proof-read his post to adhere to the strictest sense of pro-2A as one would do in a thesis. I don't put that amount into a funny post either, so take it in the sense it was given, and go have a nice cold brew. :)

inSight-NEO
July 5, 2010, 10:51 PM
I don't put that amount into a funny post either, so take it in the sense it was given, and go have a nice cold brew.

Good advice (as I am now heading towards the cooler). :)

BigDeesul
July 5, 2010, 10:52 PM
Sometimes a more intimidating person will cause a criminal or gang member to harass or "test" them. Like punching the baddest guy in prison to prove yourself. (hitting the baddest guy in prison gets you nowhere but disabled or dead, but it's a common saying). All the more reason for him to carry. I respect anyone's right to carry. Unfortunately in Illinois, we have no way to defend ourselves. I do think concealed carry is better than open carry, but any carry is better than no carry. To the op, I must say dammit!! I ended up watching 30 min. of open carry videos because of this thread!! I guess it's a good thing though. I'll just stay up an extra 1/2 hour catching up on the Pawn Stars episode I missed. LOL.

rbernie
July 5, 2010, 10:54 PM
This site furthers nothing. It embodies the very reason RKBA is held back, close-mindedness. Maybe if you took off your blinders and got out of your little bubble you would realize it.

The only people you reach with this site is people already on your side. Showing you have little to no sense of humor does nothing to help your cause. If I was on the fence about gun ownership, this site would do nothing to sway me towards it.So your advice to reach out to more folk is to allow us'n here on The High Road to laugh at other people, at their expense?

You'll have to excuse me if I fail to be swayed by that suggestion. I've been around the block more than a few times, and I've never found any good that comes from laughing at other folk.

We're just not gonna do that here.

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