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BTR11584
July 7, 2010, 04:01 AM
First off, yes I know the 357 is a loud one. However my only experience is with the full power 125 grains and the Silvertip. Would a light 110 grain be a little less noisy? I ask because the fellow members of my indoor range have complained about myself and the few magnum shooters left due to the noise. Any input on some what quieter loads would be greatly appreciated.

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pps
July 7, 2010, 04:27 AM
Complaints AT A RANGE about your boom being to loud? If they can't handle being around the loud boom, even with hearing protection on they need to lift up their skirts and waltz down to another lane.

If you want to reduce the noise you might have to go 38's Personally, complaints like that would coax me into putting the muzzle break on my 627 and run my 185gr LBT's atop of 15.8 grains of H110 for loads of fireball fun.:evil:

Walkalong
July 7, 2010, 07:31 AM
158's are generally less "noisy" to me. If you handload, you can download. I am sure there are "midrange" .357 loads out there as well.

bikerdoc
July 7, 2010, 07:36 AM
Offer them soft plugs in addition to their muffs,that should do it for the weak sisters.

Fleetman
July 7, 2010, 09:50 AM
I've found the concussion of magnum rounds to be more bothersome than the noise. It sounds like the complainers need better ear protection if the noise is bothering them. Better yet, they might want to find another hobby....knitting, tennis, rummy, etc, etc. I like my magnums and I pay my money for range time same as them but I would NEVER complain about another shooter making too much noise!!

They are at a range and should expect noise:rolleyes:!

The complainers are usually the type that rely solely on foam ear plugs and, especially at an indoor range, they are not going to cut it. You'll recognize them immediately with foam ear plugs and borrowed safety glasses.

Old Shooter
July 7, 2010, 09:59 AM
Mayby they should take up darts?

touro1979
July 7, 2010, 09:59 AM
NowI have heard everything, people complaining about noise at a shooting range:what: I wold have told them to stick it. I am not very diplomatic thought.:D

Guillermo
July 7, 2010, 10:00 AM
Like Fleetman I find the concussion the issue. When someone is shooting something like a 44 magnum or 454 casull it is not a pleasant experience so I will wait a bit. Often the owners of the hand cannons don't shoot much due to cost and the uncomfortable nature of the big-boomers.

As far as 357 magnum, that should be fine in an indoor range.

I would categorize this as "their problem". Have some foam plugs if you want to be a nice guy and blast away.

content
July 7, 2010, 10:37 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // LOL That explains it.

I once had a Deputy go on a rant (I go early and we +RO were the only ones there) about"" I come early so I don't have to deal with rednecks and cowboys"

The RO came over after my second cylinder and said " I think you got em". I just nodded yes to both statements not realising they were talking about my shooting .357 rounds.

They both had on electronic earmuffs. I had foam and some old Air Force ear muffs.
That is priceless, I guess I need to add tissues to my range bag.

With .357, I mostly shoot 158 gr. in my understanding they are easier on my revolver then the 110 gr.

snooperman
July 7, 2010, 10:42 AM
I would ignore them and continue shooting. They do not belong there.

Old Shooter
July 7, 2010, 10:43 AM
Noise at a shooting range....there ought to be a law....

NinjaFeint
July 7, 2010, 10:56 AM
I had a guy complain about the concussion off my .357 when I was shooting some Buffalo Bores. I just pointed out that there were four other lanes open he could move to.

zombie44
July 7, 2010, 12:15 PM
I hope it never becomes an issue at my range since I shoot a 44 mag exclusively and 100 rounds minimum at that :D Seriously I've heard much bigger booms going on in the next lanes and if anything wished I was shooting what they had :eek: I'd demand a refund of my membership if they ever banned magnums at my indoor range. At i've seen guys wearing just foam plugs as well. I wear both foams and muffs.

Old Shooter
July 7, 2010, 12:26 PM
Just one time at the range I go to, a fella about 4 lanes down from me was shooting something that sounded and felt like a field piece going off!!!

After just a few minutes of this I found I couldn't concentrate so I just wandered into the gun shop and eye balled some of the firearms for a while until "Big Ben" finished up and left, then I went back to continue my session.

Looking at the brass he had left behind it turns out he was shooting a S&W 460, he must have had a muzzle brake on it and it felt and sounded like he was shooting at me!!

Shooting my 45 after he had finished made me feel like i was shooting a Red Ryder BB gun.

BBQLS1
July 7, 2010, 12:49 PM
Complaining about noise at an indoor range is like going to see KISS and expecting to hear the Bee Gees.

Cosmoline
July 7, 2010, 01:01 PM
FWIW, the heavier bullets from the .357 seem to be less loud and throw a less annoying pressure wave.

kanook
July 7, 2010, 03:06 PM
When they complain about the 460, I will put it away so that they see me do it and grab my Alaskan in 454. That one rattles my unborn.

Ala Dan
July 7, 2010, 03:22 PM
The noise from full power .357 magnum loads does'nt bother me; as much
as Lake City military 5.56, as fired from an AR with a barrel lenght of less
than 20 inches~! :scrutiny: I always wear double ear protection when firing the
16" AR's~! ;) :D

rcmodel
July 7, 2010, 03:33 PM
NowI have heard everything, people complaining about noise at a shooting rangeIt depends entirely on the range. Sometimes it is reasonable and prudent to ban magnum loads.

We have an indoor range owned by the city in the basement of the community building.
Upstairs is a basketball gym. Across the street is residental housing.

They have no problem with standard calibers, but Magnum concussion shakes dust out of the basketball court floor joints and makes the floor slick!

And you can't hear standard calibers outside the building through the exhaust fan system, but you can sure hear the magnums.

A few noise complaints to the city fathers from the home owners or basketball players and this range would be shut down so fast you wouldn't see the locked door slamming shut!!

rc

W.E.G.
July 7, 2010, 04:11 PM
I got yelled at by an RSO for making too much noise with an AK-47 at the NRA range.

Seems that Tommy Tactical with his AR attached to a necklace was shooting at index cards on a few lanes away complained on me.

sleepyone
July 7, 2010, 04:19 PM
Wow! What a bunch of wimps at your range. Someone suggested they take up darts. I think quilting would be more appropriate for those guys. I have been next to guys shooting various 50 cal hand guns. They are loud as heck and the concussion blows my hair back, but I don't complain because I am at a gun range. Now if I was at a library I would have a valid beef. I actually prefer the hand cannons over the noise of an AR or full-auto machine gun in an indoor range.

Marvin KNox
July 7, 2010, 04:22 PM
Light up a cigar to go along with the noise.

That's what I'd do if people complained about the noise of my .357 at the shooting range. :)

zxcvbob
July 7, 2010, 04:27 PM
110's will probably be even louder. (offer your fellow shooters a tissue) I like to shoot 158's in .357 and .38 Special, and they should quiet the .357 down just a little.

When I want to make lots of noise, I use a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk. I don't shoot that one indoors very often.

The loaner earmuffs at my range aren't quite good enough for shooting .22 pistols; they might be OK for .22 rifles outdoors. Even if the whiners have shooting earmuffs, they might not be good enough.

hso
July 7, 2010, 05:26 PM
.38 specials, especially in target loadings, are pretty mild and cheaper. Since you're not shooting long ranges the ballistics won't matter a lot and you can always run a cylinder of .357 whenever no one's in the next lane.

gordy
July 7, 2010, 05:56 PM
Get a 50cal muzzle loader. :)That will make the girls cry. :what:They might even get a nose bleed.:eek: They are loud at a outdoor range.:neener:

Quoheleth
July 7, 2010, 06:20 PM
I was next to a a fellow shooting a .45-70 Guide Gun, ported, with hot handloads. Obnoxious doesn't begin to cover it. I hung in there for the first ten shots or so, then I retreated until he finished shooting.

another fellow, some months later, was shooting his .50BMG with the massive rearward-facing blast deflector. From the other end of the range - 120' or more - the blast was uncomfortable! I went and stood behing him until he was finished.

Both times I ceased shooting and waited for them to finish.

At other times it's been me with the Magnums that have caused discomfort. Live and let live...

Q

Manco
July 7, 2010, 07:04 PM
Noise at a shooting range....there ought to be a law....

Yeah, every gun should by law come with a suppressor. ;)

Walkalong
July 7, 2010, 07:06 PM
every gun should by law come with a suppressor.I'll go for that. Too bad they don't work well on revolvers though.

dashootist
July 7, 2010, 07:24 PM
Next to my home-defense pistol is my pair of electronic earmuff. These muffs improves hearing but protect against loud bangs. It takes 2 seconds to put it on.

But don't worry. You can always get an implant when you go deaf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlear_implant

oneounceload
July 7, 2010, 07:43 PM
Complaints AT A RANGE about your boom being to loud? If they can't handle being around the loud boom, even with hearing protection on they need to lift up their skirts and waltz down to another lane.


Uh huh to this and all of the other moronic "he-man" statements. As someone who just today went to the ENT folks and found out about how much my hearing loss is, and having shot inside and outside with loud guns going off around me - they still hurt - even with plugs and muffs. You folks need to grow up and mature - hearing loss is cumulative and it never goes away - it has nothing to do with being "macho", typically just immature.

Want quieter loads? Shoot 38's and save the 357 for outdoor ranges where you're not shooting from under a cover

AdamSean
July 7, 2010, 07:52 PM
Both Speer and Buffalo Bore make a special round that has less recoil, flash reduced powder, and less BANG.

I would recommend the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel .357. There is a slight noticeable difference.

oldbear
July 7, 2010, 08:25 PM
Uh huh to this and all of the other moronic "he-man" statements. As someone who just today went to the ENT folks and found out about how much my hearing loss is, and having shot inside and outside with loud guns going off around me - they still hurt - even with plugs and muffs. You folks need to grow up and mature - hearing loss is cumulative and it never goes away - it has nothing to do with being "macho", typically just immature.

Want quieter loads? Shoot 38's and save the 357 for outdoor ranges where you're not shooting from under a cover


Oneounceload, it is not a matter of macho B/S, for me. It’s a mater of practically; I’m limited to an indoor range. It is the only option within an hour drive of my home, and more importantly I’m from the old school of you practice with what you carry, so I shoot 150 –200 .357 Magnum rounds every range session. I always request the far right or left lane, so hopefully this helps others somewhat.

I don’t say much when the person with a new “wonder autoloader” runs his target out 10 feet and empties a 15 round clip as fast as he can, throwing hot casings into my lane and in one case onto my hand:eek:, so they can try and tolerate the nose from this old mans wheel gun.

CTShooter
July 7, 2010, 08:59 PM
I'm a member at a indoor range that allows ALL pistol calibers including the 500 Magnum. If people can not handle the noise then they should either leave (and come back another time or day) or use plugs AND muffs. Why should I be told to stop shooting because somebody can't deal with the big boom my gun makes...sarcasm. Its my range time. If he does not have enough hearing protection or does not know what to do to protect his hearing that's not my fault or problem. He should not be there then. They will be hearing gun fire in a enclosed area, so protect you ears! This is not the movies...gun fire is loud and can be extremely loud depending on the firearm.
The concussion part of firing a large / powerful handgun ..well, I'm pretty much use to it and kind of like it... ya call me strange I guess. Again if you cant handle that then move over or leave and come back later. Why should you or I tell anyone what they can or can not shoot if they are with-in the rules? You and I are responsible for our own hearing.
I am going to practice and enjoy my shooting, with certain rounds. I paid for my membership and I am in the guide lines of the rules, if other members and non-members don't like it than submit a "noise complaint". I'm sure the owners and staff members will get a kick out of it.

Guillermo
July 7, 2010, 09:14 PM
I am not a fan of indoor ranges because of the concussion and the closed environment

357 is a standard round...nothing out of the ordinary at any range

besides, I imagine that you spent the same amount for your range time as they did

BTR11584
July 7, 2010, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the replies. I will say it is pretty sill for these people to complain about noise in a range as they empty mag after mag of 9mm+p+ ammo. As for me I prefer outdoor range the indoor gallery is closer and cheaper. Now for HD I always prefer 38s, but as an armed guard i prefer to be proficient with magnum ammo for street use.

captain awesome
July 8, 2010, 01:24 AM
wow the only thing that ever bothers me at the range is semi autos flinging hot brass casings at my head while I am trying to shoot. Now that is bothersome. Don't worry about your noise, that's what hearing protection is for.

Old Shooter
July 8, 2010, 07:44 AM
If I'm there when one of the boys comes in with his recently acquired Wonderboomer that shakes the chains off the sprockets of the target carriers, I just step outside for a bit and wait him out, he can only have so much ammo, right?

Most times the gunfire around me dosen't bother me and it's kind of interesting to see what sort of groups or patterns the shooters next to me are getting. But every now and then someone will come in with something that sounds like a stick of dynamite going off at each shot!

Luckily the gun shop side of the range has a good selection to browse thru while I wait them out, but that can get expensive! Now that I think about it thats been the case when I've made most of my purchases at that shop.

I wonder if they've got me figured out? :)

snooperman
July 8, 2010, 07:49 AM
These people came to the range ill prepared for noise and had the audacity to complain so that he would not shoot and enjoy his gun , so they could enjoy theirs. This smacks me as a form of arrogance , to say the least, that should not go unchallenged.

1911austin
July 8, 2010, 07:48 PM
Do the people who own or run the range have a problem with you shooting the loud .357s?

zxcvbob
July 8, 2010, 08:33 PM
If someone else at the range has a gun so loud that I don't like it, I figure that's my problem not theirs, and I keep my mouth shut. (don't want everybody to think I'm a wuss! :D) I kind of expect the same when I'm shooting something really loud, which I do occasionally. It's a gun range; it's supposed to be loud.

(some hearing protection really isn't up to snuff tho')

The_Shootist
July 8, 2010, 09:29 PM
I remember when I lived on Galveston and had a day off midweek so went over to the Texas City range for some trigger time.

There was a female Dr from UTMB ahead of me checking in (nice looking woman - all the range staff showed a great deal of deference to her - of course when I checked in they sort of shrugged at me, being a regular and a poorly dressed male at that :D).

Anyways, we got down to the range, the session started and she was about 4 lanes to my right, popping off with an expensive looking .380 (SIG?) and I started with running a couple of standard caps thu my G19.

Then, hoping to start up a conversation with her, decided to make some noise, so I loaded up my 686+ with some UMC 158 gr head bangers. You know , the ones without the flash suppressing powder which make a nice big orange flame to compliment the typical BOOM of a .357. :evil:


Ok - BOOM BOOM BOOM etc. Dumped the empties, was about to drop a S/L home with a further 7 when noticed she was now behind me.

"What are you shooting?" she asked wide eyed - and a bit white faced.

".357 ma'am - want to try a few rounds?" She shook her head saying she didn't want to hurt her hands (a surgeon maybe). I just grinned and told her to not worry about her hands - the concussion might get her first . She laughed, went back to shooting her .380 and just to give her some peace I went back to shooting my G19 until she left.

However, in all fairness I've seem some women bang away with some hand cannons / big bore rifles and not bat an eyelash while doing it. Indeed, more and more women these days seem to be coming to the range with some pretty pricey and potent hardware.

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