A strange find


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.45Guy
July 7, 2010, 08:34 PM
I'm stumped as to how it made its way into my woods in Ohio, but I found another 6mmBR round. Seems like kind of an odd choice to be poaching with. Seriously, who takes to the woods with something that esoteric? And in a state that bars rifle hunting...

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TylerPearce
July 7, 2010, 08:41 PM
that's a crazy lookin' round.

rmfnla
July 7, 2010, 08:43 PM
There are gun nuts everywhere; ain't it great?!

Sam1911
July 7, 2010, 08:50 PM
Stranger question ... who would leave behind BRASS that's so hard to come by? Weird!

Larry Ashcraft
July 7, 2010, 08:51 PM
Remington XP100 maybe? I know they made them in 7mmBR back in the 80s.

Kman
July 7, 2010, 09:08 PM
remmy xp would be my guess, but where did you find it?? deep woods or field edge?

armoredman
July 7, 2010, 09:20 PM
Someone may have an inherited or stolen gun to poach with, and wouldn't care about the oddness of the caliber, nor the rareness of the brass. Might check with your local sheriff if someone has stolen a rifle in that caliber recently.

bearcreek
July 7, 2010, 11:25 PM
I don't really know anything about the 6mmBR but from the 5 min google search i just did it looks like a nice groundhog round. Is it possible somebody was huntin ground pigs in your area? I was not aware there were any states that totally barred rifle hunting. Several bar rifles for specific game but not for others. Here in Ohio, for example, I can't hunt deer with a rifle but I can use anything I want for groundhogs or coyotes. What state are you in, if you don't mind my asking?

bigalexe
July 8, 2010, 01:03 AM
OP Said he lives in Ohio in the original post, same as you. I guess somebody here has their laws mixed up regarding rifles in Ohio woods.

Tim the student
July 8, 2010, 09:06 AM
Rifles are legal in some circumstances to hunt with in Ohio. Here (http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Default.aspx?tabid=20829) is a link that shows what is permissible when.

I bet its someone shooting coyotes or groundhogs or maybe even hogs that can't find all their brass, or don't care if they leave it there.

bearcreek
July 8, 2010, 09:51 AM
Whoops. I got distracted. He must be talking about deer. Deer and turkey are the only things besides game birds we can't use rifles for here.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 10:17 AM
But who would be hunting whistle pigs or yotes in brush with a benchrest rifle? Just doesn't make sense, though it is loaded with a ballistic tip. It's also been there awhile, as the neck and bullet seperated from the case when I was cleaning it up.

bearcreek
July 8, 2010, 10:25 AM
Maybe he was walking to a field and dropped a round?

Tim the student
July 8, 2010, 10:25 AM
But who would be hunting whistle pigs or yotes in brush with a benchrest rifle?

I can think of a few reasons:

A guy that just likes range time, and doesn't really hunt, and this is the best rifle for the task at hand, who doesn't want to spend a few hundred bucks on a rifle when he could put that money into other things.

A guy that just got that rifle and wants to get some blood on it.

A guy that wants to shoot (and hit) varmint at good distances. Maybe he was hunting in the winter and could see for much longer ranges than you can now.

Or as someone stated before, he got gifted this, and doesn't really know that it is a bench gun, and also wonders what kind of moron would want to hunt in brush with a heavy big gun like that.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 11:38 AM
Thats all plausible but unlikely. I don't see someone wanting range time on posted private property that is overgrown with multiflora rose. I'm talking nasty overgrown.

Tim the student
July 8, 2010, 02:50 PM
Thats all plausible but unlikely.

I agree, but what does sound likely? The whole thing is just weird. If you ever find out, don't forget to let us know.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 03:06 PM
I will, and I'll throw up a few pictures of the round later today. After talking to a neighbor I may have an inkling of where it came from. The neighboring farm has an older gent that fills their nuisance tags. I know Buck might be the type to do some F class bambi plinking, but I doubt he'd be slogging through that crap. I'll see if I can get ahold of him and ask.

Double Naught Spy
July 8, 2010, 03:26 PM
Interesting assumptions...

That the shooter must have been poaching.

That the gun might be inherited or stolen to poach with.

That the rifle must have been a benchrest rifle.

Savage makes a non-benchrest varminter.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRPV%20DBM/

Ruger makes their #1 in 6mm BR that isn't a benchrest gun
http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---lehi---fine-rifle---1800693-rgrno16-leh.shtml

As noted, Rem did make the XP100 pistol in 6mmBR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_XP-100
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Remington-XP100-Bullberry-Woodsmith-Custom-6mm-BR.cfm?gun_id=100125325&CFID=9164061&CFTOKEN=34f3a2c384e45877-B34B401E-DB55-7E65-BBEB04144C0ECCF4

Thompson Encore makes a pistol barrel as well...
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=139688

But who would be hunting whistle pigs or yotes in brush with a benchrest rifle? Just doesn't make sense, though it is loaded with a ballistic tip.


Come on guys. Try thinking inside the box once in a while!

parsimonious_instead
July 8, 2010, 03:40 PM
Another weird theory: the person who dropped it likes to carry their ammo loose in a pocket. Perhaps while drawing an intended caliber, they dropped this other one and didn't hear it fall? Or heard it and couldn't find it?
I'm sure it's unusual for people to carry mixed calibers loose in a pocket, but I wouldn't put it past someone that's in a hurry, poorly organized at home, or just a tad loopy...

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 04:00 PM
All points well taken. I just find it bizarre to find such an esoteric round in the middle of our posted woods in a section totally overgrown with multiflora rose. When I say overgrown, I mean akin to a 10-15 foot tall mesh of barbed wire. This invasive species is NASTY, and taking over since our controlled burns were ruled verbotten by the authorities.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/3534440594_aab7756e7b.jpg

rondog
July 8, 2010, 04:04 PM
All points well taken. I just find it bizarre to find such an esoteric round in the middle of our posted woods in a section totally overgrown with multiflora rose. When I say overgrown, I mean akin to a 10-15 foot tall mesh of barbed wire. This invasive species is NASTY, and taking over since our controlled burns were ruled verbotten by the authorities.


Just curious, but if that stuff is so nasty, what were YOU doing out in the middle of it? I understand it's your land and all that, but I personally tend to avoid unfriendly flora. Especially the flesh-ripping kind.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 04:13 PM
Filling nuisance tags. Bambi loves to bed in that nasty stuff. Of course I use the 11-87SP with 000 Buck.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 08:17 PM
It was actually 7mm BR, so I could see someone out with an XP...

huntsman
July 8, 2010, 09:48 PM
Filling nuisance tags. Bambi loves to bed in that nasty stuff.

maybe he was trying to fill your tag also and that's all he had to help you with ;)

winchester '97
July 8, 2010, 09:57 PM
I would guess as somebody has allready said that it came from a guy that is more into target shooting than hunting, and decided to try shooting groundhogs or coyotes with his target rifle.
Also, i guess we are fortunate because i think ive seen that rose like once in crawford county.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 09:58 PM
No problem with killing excess deer... Just wondering who carries a 7mmBR in the brush.... Kind of an odd choice...

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 10:02 PM
I would guess as somebody has allready said that it came from a guy that is more into target shooting than hunting, and decided to try shooting groundhogs or coyotes with his target rifle.

That would be a plausible explanation if it wasn't the nastiest brush and briar pile I've ever seen. On posted property no less. It's just wierd. I totally understand the attraction to such esoteric rounds as is evidenced by this picture I snapped tonight. However, 7mm BR is so far outside the realm of normalcy. I'm flabbrergasted by the fact it was out there.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/8chalmers.jpg

Double Naught Spy
July 8, 2010, 10:42 PM
It was actually 7mm BR, so I could see someone out with an XP...

Or a Thompson/Center pistol or rifle.

.45Guy
July 8, 2010, 10:44 PM
Thank you Double Naught... That makes sense... I can certainly see someone traipsing about during handgun season. But I'm still amazed to have found something so darn odd.

Justin Holder
July 9, 2010, 12:47 AM
If the round is that old, maybe the brush patch you found it in was an open field back when it was dropped.

Did I just make your head explode?

gopguy
July 9, 2010, 10:44 AM
In Ohio you can shoot outlaw quadrupeds with anything. Years back when I was a youngster in my twenties I was talking with a game warden who had stepped in a ground hog hole and broken his ankle. I was asking if I could use a new self loading rifle, in .223, on a ground hog and he told me I was welcome to use a bazooka on them for as long as he was in his cast. :D

But seriously in Ohio you can shoot Coyotes and Groundhogs pretty much year round (except certain holidays and deer season) with a rifle.

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